Author Topic: What do you think of the Wilson Combat CQB full size? (Read 1360 times)

Zeus · « **on:** July 23, 2003, 08:41:29 AM »

I just sold my Springfield stainless 1911 and am looking to replace it with maybe a CQB full size from Wilson. I just ordered a glock 32 (357 sig) for my ccw and will probably buy the wilson somewhere around Christmas or therebouts. What are your opinions of this gun, I'm not dead set on it yet but from handling one (at the store) and the looks, they look and feel pretty good. Thanks. GS

myronman3 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2003, 10:34:54 AM »

too rich for my blood.

Zeus · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2003, 03:50:32 PM »

Ok,
But are they worth what they are wanting for them? My Freedom Arms was expensive but very well worth the extra money in my opinion. Is this another one of those or would the $1000 Kimber CDP be just as good. I'm starting to lean toward that decision right now because for the $15-1600 price tag of the Wilson, I can buy the glock and the Kimber. Think that would be the better deal. GS

myronman3 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2003, 04:34:27 PM »

well i cant honestly say if it is worth the extra coin. given wilsons reputation, maybe so. given my budget and the fact that my kimber does everything i would ever need a pistol to do, i can tell you that unless i win millions and millions through the lottery, i will never be able to own a wilson (and at this point i dont have a desire to). the kimbers are great guns for the money. all that said, i am quite sure that the wilson is a fine gun; i guess only you can decide if it is worth it or not.

Mikey · « **Reply #4 on:** July 24, 2003, 05:25:46 AM »

Zeus: gosh man, with the price on some of those I'm just not sure.

I have a friend who got into the combat shooting games and paid full price for a Kimber. He and another buddy then went and compared it to a similar sized Wilson. Could hardly tell the difference twixt the two in terms of feel and function. Both were totally reliable. But, so was my slightly dressed mil-spec Springfield and 35 yr. old lightweight Commander.

You said you have just sold your Springfield - was it anything about the pistol that prompted you to do that ?

I would have to consider functional reliability, customer service and overall price before I could make that decision and with the Springfield offerings I would find it difficult to go the extra $ for what may amount to window dressing. Just my two cents worth. Mikey.

HWooldridge · « **Reply #5 on:** July 24, 2003, 05:51:03 AM »

Are you a casual shooter or some level of competitor or do you carry regularly for self defense? This may be the deciding factor on what to spend. All of the name brand custom pieces such as Wilson will command a premium. What was wrong with the Springfield?

I'm on my fifth 1911 type (this one is a Llama - the rest were Colts) but all I'm using it for is plinking. I would have loved a stainless Springfield but the Llama was $239 at Academy and shoots 2-3 inch groups at 25 yds. I always buy the best tool I can afford for the project at hand but this job was not very demanding so the Llama is fine.

Zeus · « **Reply #6 on:** July 24, 2003, 08:35:43 AM »

HWooldridge · « **Reply #7 on:** July 24, 2003, 11:17:43 AM »

Odd that the Springfield was perfectly fine and suddenly began malfunctioning. If all else is equal (such as no change in ammo), then it sounds as if something broke, like the recoil spring so it still functions just not correctly. I don't think it likely that the ramp is at fault but I can't see the pistol so am just guessing. At any rate, I have shot a custom Clark Gold Cup Colt that a friend of mine owns and it is pretty sweet but I would probably pick the Kimber off the shelf. Good luck with your decision.

Zeus · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2003, 07:47:08 AM »

Well,
I decided to keep the Springfield....for some reason (don't ask me why) I just can't seem to convince myself to get rid of it. I've tried. So, I'm taking it to a guy that fools with these things and letting him repolish everything out where it will feed empty casings. I've ordered a Wilson mag and I'm replacing the springs throughout. Hopefully that will do it. The ammo had never changed so I'm going to step back and look at the reloading process and make sure all the measurements are right. I have a good feeling its an operator error somewhere. I'm good like that. Thanks for the replys and I'll let you know how it turns out in a couple of weeks. GS

Savage · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2003, 02:36:48 PM »

The problem with the Springfield is one of three things, or a combination thereof: Recoil spring/dirty chamber/extractor tuning. As you tried several magazines I think you can eliminate the mag as the problem. All in all,it's not a serious problem. I assuming you are using a "Lee factory Crimp" die. If you're not, it might be as simple as that.
Stay Safe,
Savage

Zeus · « **Reply #10 on:** July 25, 2003, 03:35:17 PM »

OK, well I had taken everything apart this afternoon after work. This is what I've done so far. The chamber was dirtier than I wanted. Scrubbed it VERY well. the spring is fine from a visual inspection. Thinking of ordering a Wolff kit just for the sake of doing it. I checked the OAL of the bullets and they were slightly too long. Seated them to the right depth and made sure the crimp was good. This is what its doing. If you lock the slide back, and put a bullet in the mag, and then let the slide down slower than normal, the bullet will disengage from the mag and appears that the bullet tip is hitting the top part of the chamber and then it will lock up the action. But if you let it down a little faster, it will function just fine. I have a Chip mcCormick mag, not the power mag, that doesn't seem to want to do right. the springfield mag seems to function better so just in case, I am going to buy a Wilson mag like I mentioned, can't hurt to have an extra anyway. Is it normal for the action to lock up sometimes if you let the slide down slowly. By doing this slowly, does that give it more of a chance to jump up and wedge. I'm going to take it to the range in the morning and give it a run through to see if the dirty chamber was the problem along with the OAL. Hopefully it will be as easy as that. Thanks for the replys and help. Glenn

Savage · « **Reply #11 on:** July 25, 2003, 05:12:31 PM »

A lot of autoloaders won't feed at low slide velocities, such as when you "Ride " the slide into battery. The same pistols feed just fine in normal operation. Don't overlook the extractor. If it is improperly tuned you will allways have feeding problems. Again if you are using range brass for your reloads, the "Lee Factory Crimp" die is a must. At least chamber check all of your reloads.
Stay Safe,
Savage

labsrule · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2003, 11:54:00 AM »

Springfield Custom Shop would turn their standard 1911-A1 into a TRP for $695. Or since its only a year old and they have a limited lifetime warrantee... send it in for repair. To see what they change to make it a TRP...

http://www.springfield-armory.com/CustomWorksheet.pdf