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Who will you be voting for for president?

John McCain
62 (82.7%)
Barak Obama
5 (6.7%)
Ralph Nader
1 (1.3%)
Bob Barr
7 (9.3%)

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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #150 on: July 11, 2008, 01:41:06 PM »
What if he gets 10% of the vote.  Someone in the Republican party might start paying attention.  Like I said, I would vote for McCain because he is the lesser of two evils, if my state gets close.  Right now it is solid McCain.  So..... I might vote Libertarian as a protest, if I am sure McCain can win.  It is about electoral votes for president, not popular vote. 
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So since I live in a state that will very likely go Obama, I might as well vote Barr....right?

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Your correct. If you live in a state that has absolutely no chance whatsoever of giving McCain its electoral votes, then voting for Barr is a non-issue. But if your state is a swing state, "up in the air" or in the McCain camp, voting for Barr is a vote for Obama...right?
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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #151 on: July 11, 2008, 01:59:57 PM »
A vote for Barr is a vote for Barr.

Why is that so difficult for some people to understand?

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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #152 on: July 11, 2008, 02:13:53 PM »
If McCain loses, it will be because of McCain.  And, the blue blood republicans who have minimized and abandoned their core base. 
I still have not decided.
If bho is elected, it is difficult to comprehend the disasters looming.
bho is an American hating buffoon. 
Everytime he opens his mouth, he rams an entire shoe store in it.
Idiology aside, he is not mentally competent to be our President.
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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #153 on: July 11, 2008, 03:02:49 PM »
McCain needs to drop out of the race and allow Barr to go against Obama.

Barr would have a better chance of beating Obama than McCain does,.. if McCain wasn't splitting the vote.

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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #154 on: July 11, 2008, 03:50:40 PM »
A vote for Barr is a vote for Barr.

Why is that so difficult for some people to understand?

WRONG. Barr has no chance of winning, all of you know that. Every vote he gets is a vote Mccain will NOT get, and Mccain  is the only chance we have to beat osama obama. Why is THAT so hard for some of you to understand???? POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #155 on: July 11, 2008, 04:08:33 PM »
Bottom line is,  it is pretty important to at least get a president who would add a couple more constitutionalists to the SC. we all saw how close we came to losing what the second amendment means.  I for one, can feel exactly what your feeling about voting for the best choice, and have struggled with having to vote for McCain as well.  But if Obama wins, there are things can hurt us much worse.  I don't know what it will take to get people out of the party thing and voting for what is best...maybe we need to concentrate on Congress, giving them all the boot, and building up our State representatives as best we can to have people to draw from later on.  Maybe that is the way to go to get things right again...president will fall into line after we get the lower levels fixed.

This is not easy for me either to vote for McCain....but Obama can not win. 
This year I'm voting for someone new in the State of Michigan for a State representative.  I think we need to fix from the bottom up...not the top down....just my opinion.
I guess I'll suffer again at the voting booth this year as fas as the president....I can't take the chance on Obama.   I was all set to vote independent myself...until the second amendment became so close...that bothered me a lot.  The people we put on that court can take us down fast. 

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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #156 on: July 11, 2008, 04:12:42 PM »
A vote for Barr is a vote for Barr.

Why is that so difficult for some people to understand?

WRONG. Barr has no chance of winning, all of you know that. Every vote he gets is a vote Mccain will NOT get, and Mccain  is the only chance we have to beat osama obama. Why is THAT so hard for some of you to understand???? POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

McCain is in the way of a Conservative getting elected in 2008.

If Barr doesn't get elected,.. it will be because McCain prevented it,... not Obama.

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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #157 on: July 11, 2008, 04:23:15 PM »
A vote for Barr is a vote for Barr.

Why is that so difficult for some people to understand?

WRONG. Barr has no chance of winning, all of you know that. Every vote he gets is a vote Mccain will NOT get, and Mccain  is the only chance we have to beat osama obama. Why is THAT so hard for some of you to understand???? POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

McCain is in the way of a Conservative getting elected in 2008.

If Barr doesn't get elected,.. it will be because McCain prevented it,... not Obama.

You made your point. But unfortuniatly the numbers just don't support that being the reality in this election.
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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #158 on: July 11, 2008, 04:45:23 PM »
A vote for Barr is a vote for Barr.

Why is that so difficult for some people to understand?

WRONG. Barr has no chance of winning, all of you know that. Every vote he gets is a vote Mccain will NOT get, and Mccain  is the only chance we have to beat osama obama. Why is THAT so hard for some of you to understand???? POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

McCain is in the way of a Conservative getting elected in 2008.

If Barr doesn't get elected,.. it will be because McCain prevented it,... not Obama.

WRONG again. If Barr had started campaigning when the others did he would have a chance, he didn't. All he is now is a spoiler. I'm betting he gets his money from the dumcraps to siphon votes from Mccain. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #159 on: July 11, 2008, 04:59:18 PM »
Both of the dominant parties are running candidates who are for amnesty for illegals,.. and if you want to talk about the gun issue, McCain has sponsored more anti 2nd amendment legislation than Obama.

Everywhere I go,.. conservatives say that they would rather have Barr as President than McCain,.. but they're not going to vote for him.

That's the kind of reasoning that causes people like McCain to know that they can ignore their base and play Republicans for fools.

I'm going to vote for the candidate who best represents my interests,... from now on.

Anybody who doesn't deserves what they get,.... and believe it,.. you're not going to like what you get with McCain. You're not going to like it one bit better than what you get with Obama.

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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #160 on: July 12, 2008, 12:05:51 AM »
We haven't received your "official tally" in a while PowderMan.  Do you need to take off your shoes to count that 11th vote?   ;)

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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #161 on: July 12, 2008, 02:47:29 AM »
  It still amazes me that people on this sight would support Barrack Hussien Obama. It would also amaze me to see a veteran or soldier voting for anyone in the democrat party, the people in power for the democrats are the same vile scum that were spitting on the soldiers and calling them baby killers when they came back from Viet Nam. I can understand the Bob Barr voters being here, but come on what gives with you Obama folk, do you care about the constitution? I see though none of the Barrak Hussien Obama voters have identified themselves, I guess that is normal for cowardly socialist, anti gun, baby killers.
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« Reply #162 on: July 12, 2008, 05:02:37 AM »
Both of the dominant parties are running candidates who are for amnesty for illegals,.. and if you want to talk about the gun issue, McCain has sponsored more anti 2nd amendment legislation than Obama.


These are 2 key reasons why I dislike McCain. However, McCain only beats Obama in the anti-gun legislation category because he's been around alot longer. Given equal time, Obama would clearly be the King of anti-gun legislation.
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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #163 on: July 12, 2008, 08:02:54 AM »
 after reading what dixie said ,,i just go along with what she said..
  Ronald Reagon  the man of the century..read the paper today and didn t see a thing about communist gurrilas taking another country over. he sure did put a rock in thier shoe didn t he..china was the only one smart enough to lay low while the man was in power..now they are feeding on us..of course i ll have to vote mc cain..
   

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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #164 on: July 12, 2008, 08:15:51 AM »
Not being able to put a Vote on this race I do have a question.

What would happen if either of the candidates dies prior to him having picked a VP running mate?
Is there a difference in what would happen if there was a VP candidate?

Would the runner up from the Primaries be now consecrated to be the candidate or is this a wide open situation again. Would the General election be delayed?
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« Reply #165 on: July 12, 2008, 10:42:02 AM »
Not being able to put a Vote on this race I do have a question.

What would happen if either of the candidates dies prior to him having picked a VP running mate?
Is there a difference in what would happen if there was a VP candidate?

Would the runner up from the Primaries be now consecrated to be the candidate or is this a wide open situation again. Would the General election be delayed?

Both are only presumptive nominees. The official nomination happens at the convention. If either one died before the convention, they would have to quickly come up with another candidate. In the case of the Dems, that would be Clinton. In the case of the Republicans, Romney would have a claim to make at the nomination since had the 2 highest amount of deligates. If it happens after the official nomination but before they are actually elected, then whoever they chose as their VP would likely be nominated in a rush renomination convention.

BTW: I hope your right........... :o (for both)  ;)
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Re: Who will you be voting for for president?
« Reply #166 on: July 12, 2008, 04:14:15 PM »
It's plain that some of are determined to see osama elected by throwing your vote away. Your choice, but shame on ya when obama is elected. Mccain 54, obama 11. I'll try not to post on this anymore. Throw your vote away, your choice. POWDERMAN.  :o :o :o :o :o
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« Reply #167 on: July 13, 2008, 11:15:23 AM »
First of all, Iam a 33 year old white male who grew up in northern Michigan with staunch republican parents and grandparents. Hunting has been in my blood since I was old enough to carry the sporterized springfield A303 my grandfather gave me. This gun is still my primary hunting gun. It is 65 years old and still shoots moa. I must say that for six years, and during the Clinton administration I was out of state and was not involved in hunting or shooting.

That being said, I am sort of a newbe when it comes to politics. But here are some questions and comments that I have.

When Clinton was in, what exactly did we lose as far as second ammendment/gun rights? I do recall something about a ban on assault rifles. What exactly did that entail?

From what I have heard, Mcain is not any better than Obama as far as gun rights are concerned. Am I wrong in my understanding?

I am not saying that I support either but, do you believe we should P!SS more money and lives away into Iraq for another 100 years? Do you actually believe the war in Iraq is making our country safer? From my understanding those who planned and comitted the acts of 9/11 are in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan and in cells all over the world, including Indonesia. The resistance facing our troops in Iraq are there because of us occupying them and Iran and Syria backing them.

Oh yes, we talk about the constitution and how it is the foundation that should not be touched. Yet Bush gets legislation passed that continues so called illegal wire tapping and excludes comunications companies from lawsuits. Personally I think that it is a necessary tool, even though it does VIOLATE the contitution.

Mcain is now for off shore exploration of oil, I am for that. As far as I am concerned we need to distance ourselves as much as possible from OPEC and the nations it represents.  I dont know about you but $4 plus a gallon is killing me.

If for 50 years or better we have made submarines and carriers that are powered solely on nuclear power, how is it that we cant find a way to run a passenger car on it, or atleast a battery that can be charged from it? Nuclear power is cheap, clean, and much safer thanks to newer technologies.

What is so wrong about wanting universal healthcare? Do doctors and drug companies not make enough money? Dont get me wrong, if you spend 10 years in college you deserve to make decent coin, but come on!

I dont know if I am a RepubDumby or a DumbyPub?

My vote is still up in the air.

Convince me Mcain is the way to go.


 

  

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« Reply #168 on: July 13, 2008, 05:48:58 PM »
  It still amazes me that people on this sight would support Barrack Hussien Obama. It would also amaze me to see a veteran or soldier voting for anyone in the democrat party, the people in power for the democrats are the same vile scum that were spitting on the soldiers and calling them baby killers when they came back from Viet Nam. I can understand the Bob Barr voters being here, but come on what gives with you Obama folk, do you care about the constitution? I see though none of the Barrak Hussien Obama voters have identified themselves, I guess that is normal for cowardly socialist, anti gun, baby killers.

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The ability to comprehend what is written in these forums will allow you to better communicate.  That being said, if you look back to page four of this thread, you will see that I stated that I would be voting for Obama, and gave some reasons for it.  Now what is up with your name calling?  If you call me a baby killer, does that then give me the right to call you out as a PEDOPHILE?!!! ???  Can you see how name calling isn't very helpful in a discussion and how it is kind of childish?

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« Reply #169 on: July 14, 2008, 01:27:09 AM »
  Buckhammer;
   Not wanting to be presumptuous, I must venture to say that possibly some of those years away from home and the staunch Republican, hunting family,
   just may have been spent at college, most colleges today tend to indoctrinate as well as educate..But go ahead and tell me if I'm wrong.. ;)
 
  A) It is not so much the gun rights that Clinton succeeded in taking away, as what he tried (and failed) to take away. Remember, he was only 2 years  into
  his presidency, when we were saved from disaster by the voters electing a non "rubber-stamp" Congress! Remember Newt Gingrich and the contract with America ?
  If Obama is elected, this "most liberal" senator of all, will have a Pelosi house and a Reid senate to do his bidding.
   Obama has not wanted Chicago residents to have ANY guns..and ANY Americans to have handguns.

  B) McCain has been shaky on some of the "red Tape" such as paperwork at gun shows, but with any Democrat you are going to get that and much more !
  As I said above, Obama is an archetype far left (farthest left in  Senate) liberal. Historically, these types have been anti 2nd amendment to the bone. If he
  seems to be in a period at the moment, of reconsidering the position..you can rest assured it will only be a temporary position..for the pupose of election..

  C) I can see from the way you framed the Iraqi "question"...that it is not a question at all..but a political statement that you have already decided for yourself.
   The Iraqi war question has been bantered about this forum for about 6 years or so, you can review the forums for that question.
  Only one thing I can add is for you to talk to someone who has served a couple deployments there...and I don't mean a "fobit" that rarely goes outside the wire,
  but someone who has kicked in doors, felt the chatter of a .50 cal in both hands, went through an IED or two and trained the "fast becoming efficent" Iraqi army.

  D) Your question about the "wiretapping" (not really wiretapping) sounds more like "blog-rhetoric" than fact. The question of illegality has recently been decided, at least
  permission to do so has been overwhelmingly passed by an extremely wide margin in the Dem controlled congress. Even the more liberal reps realize the need for intel as
    to what the terrorists are up to.
  No honest citizen needs to feel threatened..apparently not even low-level drug dealers..

 E) The problem with the petroleum issue..Congress has sat oin their collective duffs for many years (since 1973) and not done a thing to prevent this crunch ! Both
   parties share blame on this point. However; as far as domestic production..offshore, coal shale, ANWR and others..the blame falls squarely upon the Dems, simply
  because they have been toeing the line their eco-nut bankrollers have demanded for decades..no new offshore, no new refineries, no nuclear etc,etc..
 
  Each one has been a "Dr. No"..

  F) I'm not an engineer, but it seems that with current technology several hundred pounds of lead would be required for each automobile to shield the nuclear.
  Then, being mobile and subject to traffic accidents and dumbo vehicle owners playing around nuclear technology..no thanks..and that's just a start.

  G) Again; your question about "universal healthcare" (socialized medicine) sounds more like a statement, rather than a question..Michigan is close enough to Canada,
   talk to some Canadians about it ! Ask them if heart operations and transplants of various types are done in an expeditious manner..if grandma is likely to get any transplant
   if needed. Most of us have had little experience with socialized medicine..closest we may have been is being subject to the whims of our military doctors..
         Hey; if the post office beats UPS and Fed Ex..and you like the service provided by the IRS, Social Security, the Unemployment office and you local auto licensing bureau
    is just the way you like to be served..you may just like socialized medicine...     
 
    Remember " We're from the government; and we're here to help !"..

 H) last, but certainly not least, John McCain has promised to appoint only "strict constructionist" judges to SCOTUS..and has shown this proclivity by strongly backing, in fact
   rescueing the appointment of both Justices Alito and Roberts to the court.
  Obama, being our most liberal Senator would likely follow past liberal practices, appointing "activist" type judges..and the Pelosi/Reid congress would rubber stamp his appts.

   Remember, our 2nd amendment rights were just recently preserved by only a 5/4 vote...Had Alito & Roberts been a liberal's choice..the 2nd would be DEAD..RIGHT NOW !
 

 
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« Reply #170 on: July 14, 2008, 05:41:03 AM »
I'm just going to remark on the Canadian Medical System, being I am a Canadian.

Our system isn't perfect and there are differences in the  waiting time service is provided depending in what Province or city you live in. You wrote about old folks not getting transplants, I don't have anyone in my family that needed that, but I can tell you none of us could have even thought to afford these sort of things had we lived in the US. My wife has severe reflux, Crones and some other stuff, our present Dr. came from the US because he was no longer willing to treat people for symptons only like the HMO's would have allowed him to do. My wife had a CatScan within three weeks of it being ordered by our family Dr. I am not complaining.
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« Reply #171 on: July 14, 2008, 06:17:27 AM »
So 45-70, you are advocating a vote for socialism? Well, that is what the majority here will cast. BOTH McCain and Obama ARE SOCIALISTS. With that said, I guess we can become more like Canada. McCain and Obama have a history of voting anti-gun also. McCain has merely PROVED OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, that he is socialist on the gun issues.
Gosh, I feel better already. Regardless of which one wins, I get to be like a Canadian. I won't have any pistols or revolvers, and the government can decide which doctor I go to, AND IF I even need a doctor.
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« Reply #172 on: July 14, 2008, 06:42:17 AM »
The U.S.A. has been socialist since the FDR Administration. It's *way* too late to worry about it.

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« Reply #173 on: July 14, 2008, 01:02:43 PM »
  45/70 says thehealthc are differs from city to city and province to province..apparently that is true..There are many folks that come down to Buffalo for heart surgery
  etc. if they can afford it. They say the waiting list is too long and they could die while waiting. Same for transplants..and grandma can't get one any way..outlived
  her usefulness.
  We are in deep trouble if the "universal healthcare" gang gets elected..the EPA of all pople have just placed an arbitrary "value" on human lives. Rush says this is
  evidently in preparation for good excuses to deny services to SOME people. Apparently lives are pro-rated..say one is worth $6 million at age 25 if educated in
  Ivy league and in good health, at 50, only $1 million, at 70  $200,000 and later , say 73  only $100,000.
  so Joe Blow need a heart transplant at 70..it can be paid by UH..if he is "Ivy League"..if not, maybe not.. At 73 no way.
    A neat way to refuse medical services, and since it is based on "worth of life" as outlined by EPA standards..honchos will be given breaks over peons..
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« Reply #174 on: July 14, 2008, 01:21:13 PM »
Combining Universal/Socialist Healthcare + Malthusian theory on resources, including $ + eugenics/euthanasia = Incomprehensible disaster for the US.  It will be packaged nicely, and make sense to some, and literally kill many.
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« Reply #175 on: July 14, 2008, 01:38:39 PM »
So much for small federal bureaucracy, free people and keeping the feds out of running our lives. Now we are going to let the federal gov run our health care delivery system and eventually heath care as a whole! The results of this should be fantastic just like everything else they do works so well.....

All this stuff is connected, we let the feds do one thing at a time they take over your life and take away our freedoms. We let those who have $$ pay for those who don't further making people part of the federal welfare system. So much for a free society!!

I'm waiting for the day when we don't even have to pay for toilet paper, and using it. We can let the feds take care of that too while we are at turning over our lives to a big building in Washington. Why wait for Washington and the politicians to take over making all our decisions for us? There's no need to wait! Just move to England,France, Germany or someplace like that! OH I forgot, we came here to get away from that crap.....

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« Reply #176 on: July 14, 2008, 02:12:36 PM »
Amen, cabin 4.  Think about what our country invented that the whole world uses and needs, because we had a free market system with no government regulatons and such.  McCormick reaper, cotton gin, steamboat, iron boats, rifling in guns, telegraph, telephone, light bulb, phonograph, motion pictures, TV, airplane, mass production of parts, went to the moon, internet, transistor, microprocessor, ice cream maker, ice machines, traffic lights, peanut butter, sky scrapers, plastics, polymars, highbred grains (wheat, rice, and corn) developed in the 60's and put off massive starvation that would have happened if we hadn't invented it nuclear power.  A few things were invented in Western Europe, but most of the things in modern society were invented by Americans.  Even FDR didn't want to give money directly to the poor in the Great Depression, because they would become dependent on the government.  He wanted jobs programs so people could take pride in working for what they got, then when the economy rebounded, they would find jobs in the private sector.  Dams, roads, replanting forests, bridges, rural electric projects.  No welfare.  There should be no able bodied persons on welfare, at least they could dig ditches or something.  If they have over two children out of wedlock, should have tubes tied.  DNA should identify fathers and make them pay.  Round up illegals and ship back to where they came from.  Quarintine all new diseases until it is nipped in the bud.  I'm sorry, must get off my soap box. 

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« Reply #177 on: July 14, 2008, 02:50:31 PM »
The laargest amount of money you'll ever see spent on welfare will be for the welfare of the failing mortgage lending institutions.


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« Reply #178 on: July 14, 2008, 03:26:39 PM »
We have the best health care system in the world. We have the most progressive advancements in pharmaceuticals and disease R&D that deliverer's solutions to health problems by private business. The world looks to the USA for most all the advacements in health care...  Yes its expensive because we demand solutions and we have the best health care in the world. We also let lawyers litigate against doctors and pharmaceutical companies for insane amounts of money, which we all pay for in every pill or doctor visit. And because we have a small amount of people who can't afford it, we're going to turn it over to the Feds to run.... This is all just a move by the liberals to gain power over your life. This way they can create another entitlement system so they can wip it up every election like they do Social Security , Medicade, Medicare , Prescription Drug Program......

All so we can dole it out for free to every illegal alien that swims across the Rio Grand or comes here on plave or boat legally but decides to never leave.

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« Reply #179 on: July 14, 2008, 06:27:52 PM »
chairman mao would be proud of the democratic party.
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