Goex versus Goex Express

[McLernon]

Goex is advertised as the best one shot consistency....................which translated means you have to clean between shots as it fouls badly. Goex Express advertises cleaner burning softer fouling ... which to me means more shots between cleanings. What's the real story from you folks with experience using both these products.

My experience is that the Goex fouls bad and hard.

Mc

[Lead pot]

MC.

I wasn't going to reply to this one, but I have to to find out what makes you make the statement you made, and maybe I can help you with loading information or your method of fouling control.
There are a very few shooters that will shoot 100 to 125 pounds of powder a year like I do with black powder cartridge rifles using Goex powder in a .40-65, .40-70 ss, .44-90 sbn, 45-70, .45-90. and the .50-90 using regular Goex and Goex express powder.
None of these calibers in my Sharps rifles with 30 to 34" barrels foul even when the barrel is so hot  that the screw on the forearm is so hot it burns your hand after shooting a string in a match at temperatures 90 degrees plus in the dry Nebraska and Montana air.
I have used all powder except Wano and not just one or two cans to see how it performs and none will give me the extreme spread in the low single didgits and an SD at 2 to 4, with a 20 shot group using Goex, NONE!
You can PM me if you like if you would like me to help.

Kurt

[John Boy]

Mc ... go over to the BPCR Forum and read the Match results ... http://www.bpcr.net/index-a.htm
You will see for the various equipement lists that Swiss is the No 1 powder of choice shooting and winning matches

[flintlock]

I've used Goex in my flintlocks since the 70s...My hunting load for my .54 is 80grs of FFF behind a patched .530 home cast ball...With my .40 my squirrel hunting load is 25grs FFF behind a home cast .390 ball...

I can shoot both rifles 8-10 times without cleaning...I do usually run a couple of patches down to clean when target shooting just because I think it is a little more accurate to do so...

My barrel is cleaned with 3-4 patches (both sides), I then dry and lube and she is ready to go again...I don't think the extra cost of Express is worth it...

[Sharps-Nut]

I  heard smack talked on goex during the yearrs I spent BPCR silhouette shooting.  It always seemed to work fine for me in cartridge grade.  I never won a national championship, so the winners circle was beyond my grasp but I don't blame goex for this.  It did take me as high as top 20 at raton in the nationals in AAA against 150 plus shooters that year.  I have since stopped shooting bpcr and all that remain are great memories,  equipment that really should find a new home with someone who loved the sport as I used to, and a pretty good hand full of class winner medals from monthly shoots.  I mention goex serving me well as during my five years of fun in that circle my only practice was at the monthly shoot.  Not bad mouthing those who practice alot with live ammo but it goex was so crappy I doubt it could have served an average shooter so well.  I used only commercially purchased lube during my fun years brands being shaver the first 3 and dgl the last two.  I could not tell either offering a performance edge over the other.