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100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« on: July 03, 2008, 09:51:50 AM »
I received this in an e-mail. I don't know the original source or how accurate it is, but found it interesting. The portion at the end by a Sarajevo War survivor is interesting.

Are you prepared?


 100 Items to Disappear First in times of Emergency:


 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
 2. Water Filters/Purifiers
 3. Portable Toilets
 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & slingshots.
 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.)
 12.Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
 13.Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD&n bsp;CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - good grade if for drinking.
 16. Propane Cylinde rs (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
 17. Survival Guide Book.
 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)                             
 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula.ointments/aspirin, etc.
 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
 22. Vitamins
 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Co oking and Barter Item)
 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
 35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
 36. Fire Extinguishers (or.large box of Baking Soda in every room)
 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
 41. Flour, yeast & salt
 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first.
 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
 45. Work boots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS &am p; torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
 51. Fishing supplies/tools
 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
 53. Duct Tape
 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
 55. Candles
 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
 58. Garden tools & supplies
 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
 75. Soysauce, vinegar,bullions/gravy/soupbase
 76. Reading glasses
 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
 78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
 80. Boy Scout Handbook, also Leaders Catalog
 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
 82. Graham crackers , saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
 85. Lumber(all types)
 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
 89. Lantern Hangers
 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
 91. Teas .Coffee Cigarettes. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
 95. Paraffin wax
 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
 97. Chewing gum/candies
 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
 100. Goats / Chickens
 
From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
 Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents
 and friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper
 attacks.


 1. Stockpiling helps. but you never know how long trouble will last, so locate near renewable food sources.
 2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden .
 3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
 4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk.< BR> 6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway trust me, you'll have a lot of time on your hands.
 7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
 8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2008, 02:41:45 PM »
loved your list, makes a lot of sense. except no. 8. if i cant figure out how to open a can or scramble eggs with a huntin knife then i deserve to die.oh and yu wont need no. 67. yull be too busy cooking and finding food, washing clothes, defending the castle and rideing herd on the cattle and goats.after dark yull go to bed lol. trust me.

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 07:07:41 AM »
That "100 things" list has a lot more than 100 items in it, and includes nearly everything in the store. All that cannot be "first".

Posts in other places say the ready to eat stuff goes at once, along with the TP and paper towels. Disposable diapers and feminine hygiene pads vanish pretty quick, too. I wouldn't know, I don't hang out in areas where people are prone to panic like that.

Used to be, the D cells vanished first, leaving the AA and smaller. I think we are going to see that reversed in future.

Here's a work around: Check how many cells each of your emergency items require, and head for Radio Shack. Pick up several packs of "Insulated Test Jumper Leads" (example 278-1157) and "Mini-Clip Jumper Wires" (example 278-016)  and several battery holders (example 270-396). The rest is basic electricity. Remember, you can use a larger than specified source, if it's the right voltage. A smaller than specified source will die faster. You can also use a bulb for 2 AA's in a flashlight that holds 2 D's, assuming you have not gone to LED's.

What vanishes next? Depends on what happened. If it's riots, guns and ammo will vanish (if our "lords and masters" permit us to buy any, that is). Canoes and rubber rafts will get snapped up in a flood, but probably not during riots.

Hillbill, better to be a wuss and dig out a can opener than gash a hand open with a hunting knife. "Bad times" generally means "few medical resources available". I don't agree on the recreational supplies, either. There's going to be times in between when you just have to have something to relax your mind with, something trivial, or mental stress is going to eat you alive. BTDT.

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 07:36:37 AM »
seasoned firewood is #4?  What the heck is wrong with fresh cut firewood? Uh nothing! Thats darn funny!  Must have been one of those city yuppies who wrote up this list after he thought long and hard on it.

generator wont do much good when all the gas is gone or you cant afford it " Like now". Where do we resort to then for heat,cooking and light?  Back to the good ol camp fire/fire place that pretty much will burn ALL kinds of wood, including fresh cut wood along with that special 6-12 month seasoned firewood.

In my opinion THIS should ALWAYS be #1 on your list. Not a generator!
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & slingshots.

 I guess seasoned firewood could also be used as a club  ;D

 12.Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)   Um are we surviving an emergency or going on a picnic?

40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)  Do what the indians did, feed them scraps and then eat them when food is low.

 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)  Okay now im on the floor over here with tears rolling down my cheeks!

Who ever wrote up this list man, HAD to be a californian! Look at how much needless crap there is listed in it!


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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 10:02:02 AM »
Don't think the list is all that accurate. Around here every time the "snow" word is mentioned in the weather forecast in winter the same thing happens. The shelves are emptied of milk and bread first and then the various things to stuff between that bread to make sandwiches. Not far behind in disapperance from shelves is bottled water for whatever reason since it's darn unlikely snow is gonna shut off anyone's water supply.

In those rare instances when a deep snow is actually highly likely in the last hours before it is to begin falling darn nearly everything on grocery store shelves that remotely qualifies as food will be gone.

A generator is only good if you have enough gas to run it and a LOT of oil to change out often. If a real emergency hits unless you have a large gas storage tank handy and a huge supply of oil that generator isn't gonna be of use very long.


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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 01:42:29 PM »
I know from experience one item is noticeably lacking.  A good emergency dental kit.  A fall, injury from defending ones retreat, cavity, or other jaw damage is not only painfull but dang near incapacitating, not to mention possibility of infection.  There are a lot of things on that list by improvising, that one could do entirely without.  Don't forget traps, hunting uses lots of calories and traps would reduce the time necessary finding food and last almost indefinitely when stored properly.  They can be used for defense too.  Piano wire and stainless steel baling wire rolls.  Not one mention of rope, block and tackle, or sheaves.  An absolute must.  I have 5 endless 1/2" rope come alongs.  Just put the tail into the mated slots in the sheave and it actually works just like a regular wire rope come along with the same strength.  But you can use a rope as long as you want and don't have to re rig when the sheaves are two blocked.  Along with the metal attachments listed, better add wood drill bits of all sizes.  Wooden dowels and pegs have been used for thousands of years to attach beams and last for centuries.  But try and drill a hole without a good bit for tight fit and durability.  The pegs are easy to make, but the holes are difficult to align and drill without wood bits.  A good book or excellent knowledge on net making, line care and knots is a must.  Binoculars, forwarned is forarmed.  Leather tanning and care book.  Lead and bullet molds, book on how to make black powder, flintlock rifle, pistol, bow and aluminum arrows with interchangeable tips.  I can go on for hours discussing the necessities that are not listed here, many of which are more essential that those listed.  This list is good for short emergencies and civil insurrection, but not near enough of the necessities listed for long term survival.  A small line bubble level and 100' fiberglass measuring tape are essential along with micrometers and calipers.  Maps, charts, and good compass.  The more I look at the list, the more items I believe to be wants, not needs.  Forget the candy, hard rock candy can be made easily.  Lots of iodized salt, rock salt, and black ground pepper, along with other quantities of spices.  Froe and draw knife. 
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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2008, 05:02:46 AM »
agree totally with the last post, traps would be very high on the list.prob 2 dozen number 2 coilspring would last a long time. even a lazy feller can catch a lot of rabbits, coons,muskrats, squirrels etc with very little effort.snare wire or cable would be high on the list too.deer would prob be very easy to snare with cable as they often follow narrow trails or go under or over fences in certain places. i will keep my generators handy tho. i can pump a couple hundred gallons of water from the well with prob a quart or so of fuel. thats prob all ill be useing the generator for really.

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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2008, 05:31:50 AM »
You guys are trying to make the list something other than what it is purported to be. It's not a needs or wants list but a list of what disappears first off the shelves. Often there is little rhyme or reason to what folks buy. It's not necessarily a representation of what folks would really need in such a situation but is maybe more an indication of what one person THINKS might be wanted by folks.

Based on what actually happens around here when folks think a short term emergency is impending it's not very realistic for my area.


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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2008, 08:35:56 AM »
GB, that's probably true that many items disappear from the shelves from the list.  I agree that many items would not be my first choices.  I already have a goodly supply of long range survival items, including boats and oars.  Over a years supply of canned goods and staples, including paper products.   So, his list to me looks like a normal supply list for town as living remote requires many of the long range survival items and especially the short term survival ones.  Guess I got carried away. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2008, 09:02:09 AM »
You guys are trying to make the list something other than what it is purported to be. It's not a needs or wants list but a list of what disappears first off the shelves. Often there is little rhyme or reason to what folks buy. It's not necessarily a representation of what folks would really need in such a situation but is maybe more an indication of what one person THINKS might be wanted by folks.

Based on what actually happens around here when folks think a short term emergency is impending it's not very realistic for my area.

I agree. I don't know who assembled this list, but in an emergency situation, the vast majority of people will go into panic mode and buy anything they can get their hands on. Most people put no thought into what they would really need in an emergency whether short or long term. A lot of people would go hungry if they had canned food and no can opener, not realizing how easily a lid can be removed using a sidewalk or flat rock. IMO one of the biggest contributions to an existing emergency situation (possibly dwarfing the original emergency) will be the people who have never put effort into getting themselves prepared. Most people in urban areas only have a few days worth of food on hand at most and no water stored. When the store shelves are empty, the majority of them will lack the knowledge to secure food and drinkable water without the aid of someone else.
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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2008, 10:46:12 AM »
You guys are trying to make the list something other than what it is purported to be. It's not a needs or wants list but a list of what disappears first off the shelves. Often there is little rhyme or reason to what folks buy. It's not necessarily a representation of what folks would really need in such a situation but is maybe more an indication of what one person THINKS might be wanted by folks.

Based on what actually happens around here when folks think a short term emergency is impending it's not very realistic for my area.

I agree. I don't know who assembled this list, but in an emergency situation, the vast majority of people will go into panic mode and buy anything they can get their hands on. Most people put no thought into what they would really need in an emergency whether short or long term. A lot of people would go hungry if they had canned food and no can opener, not realizing how easily a lid can be removed using a sidewalk or flat rock. IMO one of the biggest contributions to an existing emergency situation (possibly dwarfing the original emergency) will be the people who have never put effort into getting themselves prepared. Most people in urban areas only have a few days worth of food on hand at most and no water stored. When the store shelves are empty, the majority of them will lack the knowledge to secure food and drinkable water without the aid of someone else.

Or notified of emergency conditions and then when water, water, everywhere but not a drop to drink.   We know who that someone will be in these emergencies.  And blame it for not acting on the evacuation order and expect paid and new housing for it. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2008, 01:48:52 PM »
Look at this in a real survival situation.  You dont need paper, staples, darn sure dont need your dog "less food is low and thats all there is" you surely dont need laundry detergent.

The most important item you DO need is:
   Water

A good sharp knife, bow with all the accessories required to maintain or of course a Firearm with a good supply of ammo.

The woods are full of food. If you're in a city, you pretty much will eat the dead or street animals, but if hunger gets that bad, you will eat another human to survive.

Now take a look at the native americans, Buy some books and learn from the real people who know how to survive with out all of our modern crap.

You dont need a computer, house "modern" car, tv, music to live.  What you do need is Food on the table, clothing on your back and hunting equipment.

That entire list above sounds like someone was smoking a good cigar of wackee tobacee and thought of everything in the world to keep him Comfortable

 I'd rather be alive than comfortably dead.

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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2008, 02:28:34 PM »
1st item to dissapear would be ME!im still pissed cuz y2k didnt happen.

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2008, 02:38:01 PM »
Toilet paper.  I grew up where it was a luxury.  Keep a roll in the truck, in my hunting pack, and elsewhere I might need it.  I can kill and find food.  I need toilet paper.  Good to start a fire with, wipe your butt with, blow your nose on or wrap a cold biscuit in.  Can't make it or find a good substitute for it.

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2008, 08:29:20 PM »
The greatest survival food was researched and tested by Army back in 2000.
It was dry dog food ! if properly stored it can last for years , add it to rice or beans and it was a real meal.
Alpo fared best in nutrition and balance.
Silo world also said its the best to have on hand when everything else is running low.
Mostly for its storage property's.
I wonder if it will also keep my coat shinny ?  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2008, 09:13:02 AM »
i call b.s. on this one as well.....when is the last time you saw goats and chickens on the store shelf? ;D

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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2008, 05:24:33 AM »
I would not be surprised if the inexpensive livestock like chickens, goats etc. would disappear fast when the SHTF. I would bet dogs and cats would not be safe too long after the chickens and goats were gone.
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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2008, 05:53:56 AM »
The main disagreement here is that some people are thinking a Katrina SHTF and others are thinking a Democrat SHTF. One lasts 2 weeks the other lasts at least 4 years. For an intermediate in a Democrat SHTF, something to get you through to the first harvest, we should be thinking in terms of 100# sacks of dry beans, rice, corn, and wheat, not cans of soup and veggies. You can't even afford to buy a 6 or 8 month supply of dog food for 3 or 4 people, let alone find a place to store it where it won't freeze. You can hang, so the mice don't get it, a sack of beans in a cold shed.

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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2008, 10:37:53 AM »
there are way too many cats in my neighborhood for me to be eating a hundred pound sack o' beans.  ;)

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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2008, 12:49:09 PM »
Ummm beans and fluffy. Rovern'beans is another tastey one.

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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2008, 01:17:34 PM »
the  weather  man mentions  a hurricane  around  here

and  all  the bottled  water
batteries and
generators
start to  leave the stores

i  have an artisian  well     no pump needed
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 02:54:03 PM »
Hi Everyone
     I already live up in the mountains with very large wilderness tracts near.
I've been shooting a bow for 65 years so that will be useful. I also shoot black powder and conventional firearms. I have many to choose from. I reload and repair my own arrows so that will come in handy. I tend to agree with stocking up on rice and dried beans. they solve storage problems and will provide reasonable nutrition . This can be supplemented with game and fish. Having a good supply will buy time from hunting when required.
Tools: Axe,saw,knife,sharpening stones and files. Because I live where I do I have everything here now. I would have to use my generator to power my well every so often. Neighbors here would stick together in common defense.
The 2nd amendment is an unalienable right which means no one can take it away unless they declare Marshall Law and that suspends the constitution while in effect. What possible reason could Marshall Law be called?
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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2009, 07:49:10 PM »
The 2nd Amendment didn't seem to mean much after Hurricane Katrina. That was a time when law abiding citizens had a definite need to defend their families and their homes. That didn't stop LEOs from going door to door and confiscating their guns. Large scale cooridinated terrorist attacks across the country would be one possible reason. If the majority of gun owners refuse to comply with anti-gun laws that turn abiding gun owners into criminals could be another reason. Those reasons may seem a little far fetched, but I would not put anything past politicians who have anti-gun agendas.

Here are a few possible reasons, scroll down and click on the "martial law category":
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Find-Freedom.htm?EdNo=001&At=045547

BTW, thanks to Matt for this link from another post on this site.
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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2009, 04:40:29 PM »
 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
 Got two Generators with over 100 gals storage in vehicles.  Both will run my boiler and well pump so I don't need #2&3

 2. Water Filters/Purifiers                                                                                                     Not needed
 3. Portable Toilets                                                                                                             Not needed
  4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.     Got two cords standing dead
 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.                                                   My Coleman stove and lantern us unleaded gas
 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & slingshots.                           Got plenty
 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.                                                   Got my Leatherman
 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar                                                                      Wife and I are diabetic, don't need
 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.)
 12.Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)                                            Got fire wood why need charcoal
 13.Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD&n bsp;CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - good grade if for drinking.
 16. Propane Cylinde rs (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.                                       Why, got gas
 17. Survival Guide Book.                                                                                        Why, use common sense
 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)                             
 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula.ointments/aspirin, etc.                                           Why, got no babies
 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)                                                 Why, not necessary
 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)                                                         Why, got fireplace and Dutchoven
 22. Vitamins                                                                                                        Why, not necessary
 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)  Not needed, use common sense
 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.                                                             OK Got to take care of the ladies
 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Co oking and Barter Item)
 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels                                TP and Baby wipes are nice, Kleenex & Paper towels can live without them.
 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)                               Why, not necessary
 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
 35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
 36. Fire Extinguishers (or.large box of Baking Soda in every room)
 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)                   
 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)                                                                           Why, got my guns, little dog is easier to feed
 41. Flour, yeast & salt
 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first.
 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators                                                              Paper/pencils OK  I can do math in my head
 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
 45. Work boots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS &am p; torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)         Not needed, got paper and pencil
 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)                  Not needed
 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
 51. Fishing supplies/tools
 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
 53. Duct Tape
 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
 55. Candles
 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
 58. Garden tools & supplies
 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc                                                            I can walk    
 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)                                                          Don't leave the Generator running in the garage
 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice                                                                                Won't have time
 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer                                                  Don't have rats & roaches, mice can feed the dog
 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets                                                      Again not needed
 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)                                                       Not needed
 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)                                            Not needed, I have a beard
 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
 75. Soysauce, vinegar,bullions/gravy/soupbase
 76. Reading glasses                                                                                              Not needed
 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
 78. "Survival-in-a-Can"                                                                                         What is it? 
 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
 80. Boy Scout Handbook, also Leaders Catalog                                                          Again use common sense
 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)                                                                Why
 82. Graham crackers , saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
 85. Lumber(all types)
 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's                                                                                Why, got my bed, if in woods make a nest
 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
 89. Lantern Hangers                                                                                               Not needed
 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
 91. Teas .Coffee Cigarettes. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
 95. Paraffin wax                                                                                                     Not needed
 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.                                                                     Redundant, already mentioned earlier
 97. Chewing gum/candies                                                                                        I don't chew gum/candies
 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)                                                                            In Alaska not needed
 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
 100. Goats / Chickens                                                                                               Why, they would attract bears

I went through these, and if I don't use them in my day to day life normally, I really don't need it.

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2009, 08:38:05 AM »
Propane sells out fast before a hurricane. ;)

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2009, 03:03:49 PM »
We had a cyclone scare on the cost not long ago (i live about 30min drive inland) and while at the cost for the day.
First thing i notice gone was batteries, candles, matches and lighters and this was in the first 24hrs after a warning was issued but the funny thing was i got back into town... still all stocked with the items i mention. To me that shows me that people don’t look to far from where they are.

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2009, 06:10:26 PM »
Good point, Chappers. People are going to look where they are used to looking, not go exploring all that much. Not to start with, anyhow.

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2009, 06:55:52 PM »
Here in the sunny South... I've watched people run to the stores at the mention of snow.
Beer
Cigarettes
Bread
Flashlight Batteries
These should be added to the list of things I've seen the idiots run out and buy in Alabama.
Most of our snows are melting by lunchtime...  March of 93 was a notable exception, we were w/o power for 10 days.  I made a snow fridge and did not loose anything that had been in the bottom of my refrigrator.  We cooked items from the freezer when they began to defrost. 
(I got by on a gas stove and a fire pit & Dutch ovens)
I still did not need to buy any of the listed items.   I had a supply of kerosene for lamps, so we had light.
I used batteries from my walkie Talkies to power an old transistor radio.

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2009, 12:10:25 AM »
The one that killed alot of middle aged men in Zim was prescrition meds- specifically blood pressure meds. Oh and we also had a baby boom 9 months to a year later.  ;D No gas to go out, no electricity at home, so no TV and a candel lit dinner every night...what to do with an evening...

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Re: 100 Items to Disappear First During An Emergency
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2009, 03:22:09 PM »
Everybody had some good points and also had me think some, some them items I thought about and figured they need alternatives back ups or plan B,C,D's
figure on dried meats  that left over hamburger goes in the dehydrator & sealed up, canned produce (store bought and home canned)
What could one do without? and what was essential?
Buckets and tubs wernt mentioned and should ive a couple made from the bottoms of a couple 55gal drums
one plastic and one steel and have a couple stout ones made from red poly gasoline jugs (yard sale had a 4 for a dollar as all were missing the threaded caps& vents), cement blocks, practice collecting local herbs as a alternative to vitamins.
after dark it limits what you can do so its go to bed when dark and up at sunrise (no lamps needed much)
stock pile home made soap, burning grass, wood scraps, even old tires if ya gotta all need consideration.

Id invest in solar rechargeable out door lights, them rechargeable hand held lights Ive seen several types one is shook so a piston excites the field the other's were dynamo types, invest in a good LED head lamp and a bunch of AAA battery's head lamps are the greatist!!!

I stock piled allot of Shelf stable Curry Mix...................a fella can just about choke down anything with some curry sauce on it!
Steel toe work boots
Good hand saw..........I like them japinese hand saws ther evil!
plastic bags, those woven dogfood bags, good old hemp gunny sacks
We used to keep old cream cans full of water and a bundle of gunny sacks incase of a grass fire back on the ranch during haying season a wet gunny sack works good.