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Offline kombi1976

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Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« on: July 09, 2008, 06:27:17 PM »
I just bought this Tikka T3 Lite Stainless in 9.3x62 and topped it with a Lynx 1.75-5x20 wide angle scope:



I also picked up 200 Prvi Partizan cases for a great price, a RCBS FL 2-die set and some Speer 270gr Semi-Spitzers:



I'm at the point where I need to load for these.
Hodgdon (sold as ADI here in Oz) are the easiest to come by and Varget and H4895 have been recommended as good for these cartridge.
Is anyone else loading for 9.3x62 and what are you using?
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 07:04:13 PM »
try this in the handloading forum, you may have more luck there.

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 07:06:38 PM »
 ;) That is a nice piece of machinery !!

You can have a look at these -
http://www.reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=145

Happy shooting!

Sweet

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 04:46:51 AM »
Have found RL-15 to be very good for all bullets weights for the 9.3x62.  Have a friend who uses TAC.  Varget is suppose to be very good also.  I like RL-15 because it is very insensitive to temperature changes.  Man does this caliber put them down.  DRT= down right there!
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 06:10:24 AM »
What model/brand is your 9.3x62, Buckfever, and what sort of game do you hunt with it?
Any pics of game you've bagged with it?
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2008, 07:11:01 AM »
Very nice rifle you have there.  I'm a fan of the 9.3x62. 
It's been several years since I have done any reloading, but I did have good results with Reloader 15.  I used it with 286 gr nosler partitions.
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 11:25:52 PM »
Let me know how she shoots for ya!  I got the Varget and 250gr. Nosler Accubonds, but have yet to start reloading that caliber.  Want to send off for a modified case before I start sending $$ bullets downrange.

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 01:48:01 AM »
Will do, DES.
BTW, what do you mean by a "modified case"?  ???
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 03:44:49 AM »
Hunted a 400 lb. back bear in Canada and hit it at 35 yards in the chest side shot.  Was using 286. grain Privi-partisan ammo at the time and he went straight down.  In fact he was on the ground before the echo from the shot was over.  I have been reloading nosler partitions in 286 grn. and 250 grn. Barnes TSX.  These loads are a test for my trip to Namibia next year for Kudu, Gemsbok, and Warthog.  I have finished the 286grn using RL-15,  again temperature insensitive, and I am getting 1" groups @ 100yds.  I have yet to start the 250 grn. But it will also be with RL-15.  Any place that can have large temperature swings I feel more comfortable with an insensitive powder.  I shot a meat deer at 90 yards with the 286 grn. Nosler Partition and it was dead on contact.  The interesting part was that the large slower moving bullet damaged less meat than a 270 or 30-06.  There are people hunting Buffalo with this caliber in Africa.  It is legal in some of the areas.  By the way I have a CZ-550 in a full stock and it has a 20-5 "  barrel.  It seems to have little affect on velocity or accuracy.  An old timer told me that the larger bores can burn the powder in shorter barrel distances so who knows.  The gun comes up just great.  As with any good firearm it has a name, "Thumper."

I also have {3} t3 Tikkas in smaller calibers.  They shoot extremely well and are easy to hunt with based on their weight and balance.

I am pretty sure you have some big nasties you could hunt with that 9.3x62 and be happy you had the firepower!     Sorry no pictures but I will have from Africa next year.

Buckfever

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2008, 02:40:34 AM »
kombi1976
I shoot a CZ American with a Nikon 3x9 scope in 9.3X62. I use Varget powder and Speer's 270 gr projectile. I get one hole groups ,although rather big holes at 100 yds. When I got the rifle the only brass I could find was that distributed by Grafs, which worked ok for me.
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2008, 03:17:49 AM »
What load of Varget are you using, rmatt, and are you using Large Rifle primers or Magnum primers?
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2008, 04:37:34 AM »
   Anyone tried IMR4350? My Speer manual shows decent performance with their 270 gr and I've got plenty of that powder.

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2008, 06:10:54 AM »
If I could get my hands on some IMR4350 I'd definitely use it but I don't know of anyone who sells IMR powders here in Australia.
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2008, 06:32:57 AM »
I've worked up a reload using the 286 NPT.

When thru experiments with these IMR powders: 3031, 4064, 4320, 4350 and 4895.

Best of this bunch was IMR-4320 by far !

Am getting less than 1" groups at 100 yds using Graf cases, CCI-200 primers with the 4320.

Velocity is also good - Chronos right at 2,400 fps from 24" barrel.
    Ray

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 07:12:38 AM »
Will do, DES.
BTW, what do you mean by a "modified case"?  ???

Kombi,
The modified case is a case that has a loose neck and is threaded where the primer pocket should be.  The threaded portion screws onto an OAL tool.  I have been using this stuff to accurately get the bullet where I want it off the lands. 
https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_session=23ad8e1d4e5f694f774937082662ceea&page=shop%2Fbrowse&category_id=fd215786476a600bb3a34eaef6e83165
https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_session=23ad8e1d4e5f694f774937082662ceea&page=shop%2Fbrowse&category_id=7df13f42514ab708d0b7ebbd11c32a1b


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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2008, 10:31:32 AM »
Kombi
I'm using 56.5 gr Varget behind Speer's 270 gr Semi-Spitzer, Win Large Rifle primer(not mag) with an OA of 3.275. Shoots real well in my CZ American.
Bob

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2008, 01:26:12 PM »
Thanks, Bob.
That gives me a good starting place although my rifle will probably shoot a little differently as it's a Tikka and will be using Lapua brass.
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2008, 06:54:15 PM »
Kombi, enough talk now - show us the targets!! :D

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2008, 09:50:48 PM »
Sweet 6.5, when my brass arrives (hopefully in the next few days) and I get a chance to load some then I'll do my best to head to the closest range that I'm allowed to use it on - unfortunately that's 100kms away.
Our local range you can only use 30 cal and lower.
So that means you can shoot a 30/378 Wby Mag but not a 35 Remington, let alone a 9.3x62.......make any sense to you?
Doesn't to me.
Bloody govt bodies!
So as soon as I can do it I'll post the targets.
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2008, 07:02:43 PM »

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2008, 03:53:03 AM »
Kombi, I put a limbsaver pad on my 9.3x62 and it made a noticeable difference.  I also put some Fitz on the bolt and cycled it a 100 or so times.  It really smoothed up the action, and shines like a new coin.    Buckfever

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2008, 04:25:14 AM »
Look what turned up in the mail..........  ;)



I'm going to try and get out tomorrow if I can.
I will try and get a Limbsaver, Buckfever, but the bolt is as slick as snot on a door knob and shiny isn't a real asset in the field so why worry about it.
What is Fitz anyway?
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2008, 04:42:15 AM »
Flitz is a polishing compound consistancy of toothpast.  Works great on knives, dirty actions and so on.  I forgot that have a Tikka which doesn't require any sort of work on the action it is the smoothest of all the firearms I have had.  My 9.3x62 is a CZ 550 FS and needed a little TLC.  So I smoothed it up.  Your going to love the knock down power of this caliber!  It is also very accurate.  For my re-loads I am 2.5 inches high @ 100yds, dead on @ 200yds. and 9.5 inches low @ 300yds.  Pretty simple to remember for large animals.  Dead on hold out to 200 yards and top of the shoulder @ 300yds.  Can't get much easier than that.  My re-loads are about 2 grains from maximums showen in the Nosler re-loading book. 

Happy Thumping!   Buckfever

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2008, 06:40:10 PM »
 :'( I am jealous  !!!

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2008, 11:10:11 PM »
After much harassment from Sweet 6.5 I finally got time this week to try out the 9.3x62.
I have to thank Bob for the 56.5gr Varget load he recommended for the 270gr Speer as it gave me an excellent place to start, sitting right in the middle of the min and max loads.
I encountered a lot of problems getting it on paper and the final 50m 3-shot group did not even get on the target.
It did, however, print on the cardboard below the target and yielded this......



Now, after mucking around and only having 3 shots left I put the target at 50m and held on the bull.
The scope is way out but I feel strongly that this actually represents 3 shots.
The first shot was the top one and was clear to begin with.
The second shot seemed to disappear but I suspected at the time that perhaps it had passed almost though the same hole.
I had not seen any kick up of dust and or other debris and anyone who has fired this cal before would know that it really leaves it's mark so there seemed to be few other explanations
It was hard to believe but not impossible, especially in light of the fact shot #3 DEFINITELY was touching #1.
I didn't measure it but doing the maths it has to be sub 0.5".
Now remember......this is an "out-of-the-box", economy rifle with a good but not spectacular scope and using an untested load (at least in this rifle).
It was especially interesting as my mate who was testing loads for his Weatherby MkV Ultra Light 300 Wby Mag which cost more than 3 times the price of the Tikka with the scope included.
He could get no better from his rifle than 1.5" at 100m.
He feels although tighter groups would be better that it's sufficient for close cover deer hunting and it probably is.
However I'd be pretty disappointed if my AUD$3.5k rifle could not shoot better than that.
More telling, however, was that although he admitted it to me he won't admit to his regular hunting mate that Tikkas always seem to come up trumps in the accuracy department as his mate is always on his back about it.
This is despite the fact he even has ordered a T3 Hunter in 6.5x55 and I anticipate he will not be disappointed with it.
One last comment.....I've decided to give the Tikka a name; The Judge.
After what I saw from it this afternoon it's like judgement from above and suspect the game won't know what hit it!  ;D
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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2008, 04:03:17 AM »
Fine group, first time shooting and no tweaking as of yet.  The name is an excellant choice for "The Judge" is and always the last word!  The 9.3x62 has been a blast for me, in that it is a real hammer and doesn't have to be high velocity.  Thank You Mister Mauser.....    Buckfever

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2008, 06:56:00 AM »
 ;)

NICE !!

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Re: Some tips on loading for 9.3x62......
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2009, 10:21:12 PM »
I know it's been a while since this topic was posted on but for those who are interested I believe this addition sort of concludes it well.
Last weekend I was off down south to hunt fallow deer so I decided to make sure The Judge (my T3 Lite Stainless 9.3x62) was shooting ok.
This rifle has taken a few big roos and some goats before so I was pretty confident about its abilities.
I just wanted to be sure so I took it out to the range last Tuesday afternoon for a few shots at 100m.
I was stunned to find that every group put the first shot high and then strung DOWNWARDS from there.
Being frustrated I decided to see what 3 quick rounds would do.
This was the result...  :o



The first shot was the top one and the second and third continued down.
This left me very discouraged and disappointed so packed up and headed home.
A couple of things were possible.
On my previous hunting trip in January a plastic buckle on my sling broke and the muzzle dropped about a foot onto the dirt as I was climbing down a hill.
Maybe the bbl was bent or was touching the stock.
With a piece of paper I discovered it was still floated as it had come from the factory.
The other possibility was that it needed a good clean.
Now this, you may say, is obvious, but many of my other rifles are dirty dogs and have shot truly impressive groups with the grubbiest bores imaginable.
But the Tikka had never really had a serious clean.
Perhaps it needed more TLC than my older rifles.
I started with TetraGun and after letting it sit for a while gave it a bit of a scrub before patching it out.
Then I put more TetraGun in it and let it sit longer before patching and another scrub.
I did this a couple more times and then cleaned it with some stuff called INOX, which is a lubricant and penetrating agent.
The odd thing was that I got none of the green stain of copper fouling, just dirt, and in the scheme of things not even a lot of dirt.
I was pretty dubious as I headed out to the range on the Wednesday afternoon and set up some targets at 100m to see if the clean bore would do the trick.
I also took Heinrich, my '41 k98 Mauser 8x57JS sporter, with his new 26" Stainless bbl, Timney trigger and Choate sporter stock to see if he would yield an acceptable group with some old 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tip loads I'd made up for the rifle before it was rebarrelled.
The Judge has a Lynx 1.75-5x20WA scope designed for dangerous game and close hunting so at 100m the target wasn't real clear.
Here is the first group I shot through The Judge after the clean:



To say I was stunned when I walked up to make an inspection is an understatement.
Remember, this is the same load as Tuesday's woeful group.
So, with the purpose in mind, I sighted it 3" high at 100m so it's flat all the way out to 217yds.
The first shot, covered by the yellow sticker, was a sighter, but once I got it on target I shot another group to see that it wasn't messing with my head.
It shot this.....



Now where I come from anything sub-MOA is good.
If you can push it down to ¾ of an inch you're doing well, especially out of a light hunting rifle.
Getting it BELOW the ¾ mark, especially with a super light big bore rifle....for me, that's a great success.
For those happy to trash T3s as cheap plastic rubbish remember that this has had no modifications to the trigger or bedding and the load is one that was recommended to me by a friend, it has not been tested to within an inch of it's life.
I wonder if all those "legitimate" rifles can turn this out?
Suffice to say that I now know the T3 likes a good clean and that it's incumbent on me to keep it that way.
Now all I needed to do was clean it before Saturday morning.
As it turned out we didn't bag any deer but the time spent during the week was an important learning experience.
I'd also like to thank Bob for what turned out to be a great load.
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.22lr ~ 22 Hornet ~ 25-20 ~ 303/25 ~ 7mm-08 ~ 303 British ~ 310 Cadet ~ 9.3x62 ~ 450/400 NE 3"