Ghosts in the woods

[Mike Britton]

Mike Britton here.
I've been reading the posts on this, help me here, is this a thread?
Anyway....What I want is comments on things you guys have seen in the woods that aren't some sort of animal, like bigfoot might be, more of a ghost or spirit.
When I was a kid in Morgan county Indiana, the woods were right across the highway from our farm, and the family would spend a lot of time in those woods picking morel mushrooms and rabbit and squirrel hunting. I never heard it from my parents, but a lot of the old folks that lived in Morgantown talked about staying out of certain parts of those woods because they were haunted. I was 7-8 then, and my parents were skeptical, thinking maybe those stories were meant to keep the kids out. We moved to Texas 50 years ago, and I became pretty much a city boy, but I've spent a lot of time in the woods on return trips and I've never run into anything in the woods to be afraid of. Having said that, I know you guys have spent a ton more time out there than I have.
Just wanted to know if you guys have seen things.  When I was in the Army, I learned to "not fear the dark, but fear what moves in the dark"






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[Ray Ford]

Mike,

I've married a lot of women--to other men.
I've buried a lot of people.
I'm a retired preacher.
When I buried persons, I put their lifeless bodies in the ground and their spirits to returned to God--the God who gave them.
I seriously doubt that God allows those spirits to roam the woods and fields or abide in earthly structures.
I seriously doubt that those spirits would want to do those things.
If you see something moving in the dark, it isn't a ghost.
But don't shoot until you know exactly what it is.

[Mike Britton]

First two things I learned with a rifle, Mr. Ford. Don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot, and if you cover something with your front sight, you'd better be ready to kill it.

[Graybeard]

I've been on this earth for 63+ years now and I've yet to see anything that wasn't explainable in normal terms. I hear folks claim sightings of lots of unearthly or supernatural things but to be honest I dismiss such as a fanciful imagination. No one has ever offered any solid evidence of the existence of any of this supernatural stuff whether it be ghosts, bigfoot or space aliens.

I won't say that there is no way they exist but until I personally see one or see really solid evidence I'll continue to say I really don't believe in their existence.

[1911crazy]

I seen something while logging years ago and i posted it here.  I seen something moving across an opening in a stone wall in the sunlite.  It went parallel with the stone wall and it happened on a few days to me.  I asked the forest ranger about it and he said there was many  piles of rocks on the hill above me.  It was an old indian burial site.  This was an area were the indians were many moons ago.  When i took the logging job it was only half done so maybe the logger before me seen it too and left.  It moved thru the air like predator in the movie.

You explain it i can't but i kept the chainsaw hot and near me all the time.  If it came into our dimention I would cut it in half for sure.  I didn't relieve myself in that area too I was advised not too. I did finish the job and even cut trees up near those piles of rocks but i didn't disturb anything.

I also had a ghost experrience at the new house too i woke up and she was standing next to me at the bedside.  I need to find out what the old lady looked like now. Scared nope but i do keep my 45 with me at all times. If its not completely dead its going to be in mili seconds.

[Glanceblamm]

It has only been a couple of years that a co-worker of my Wife and her husband were building a new house. They got to the point of digging the latteral off the discharge side of the septic tank when they uncovered two
Stone axe heads which really is not that common in our area. These (axe heads) were just a bit different as they had some markings on them that could be interpreted as being ceremonial?

Anyway...they cleaned those axe heads up a bit then put them in a small cooler in their living room. Their dog, a black lab, did not like this one bit and would circle that cooler while growling
Perhaps it was just a certain earth/animal scent that made the dog act this way?. To the best of my knowledge they did not have any other occurances than this. I think that the heads ended up being donated or sold.

[1911crazy]

I had an experience right after my older brother died. I had a gravely tractor with a starter/generator with twin drive belts.  I was plowing snow and for some reason i reached too close to the belts maybe to clear the snow from the frame while it was running.  I had G.I. Leather gloves with the winter liners on.  My 4 fingers when thru the belts and pulleys so quick and the generator moved to loosen the belts as my fingers went thru the pulley.  I just sat and thanked my older brother.  There was no way that generator should move when the 3 bolts holding it were very tight. I never felt a pinch or had any bruises at all from it.

My last house was also haunted I had cold breezes pass by me while no windows or doors were open. This happened a lot.

My son told me about them seeing an old indian standing in the woods near my house his friend seen it too.  While working on my truck at 2:30am one time i heard horses hooves go down my street.  My neighbor told me its the old farmer and his wagon going to market.

Don't believe in ghosts that was me too until my trip to dudleytown.....   I got everything they got on pics on the net on my camera and cam corder too.  What ever it is it loves to play with camera's too it turns it on when we turn them off constantly.  It even pushes the picture button on my camera 4 or 5 times at a clip. I was cool and calm the whole time until i seen the orbs on the film when i got home. The ghost hunters "the warrens" said this place is very evil and people should stay away.  People like to spread rumors about the dudleys having a curse from europe but i really think its from the devil worshipers and there weegee boards contacting bad spirits that roam that place now.  I have even seen cloven hoof prints inside boot prints in the snow to hide there foot prints.  If we went there you would believe for sure.....trust me.

A local radio station went there and they closed the place to out siders now.

Sometimes i worry about my surplus military guns too after all they have killed people too in the past.  My safes have never rattled yet and the room had been very quiet so far but i do wonder about it.

[JonD.]

Mike,

I've married a lot of women--to other men.
I've buried a lot of people.
I'm a retired preacher.
When I buried persons, I put their lifeless bodies in the ground and their spirits to returned to God--the God who gave them.
I seriously doubt that God allows those spirits to roam the woods and fields or abide in earthly structures.
I seriously doubt that those spirits would want to do those things.
If you see something moving in the dark, it isn't a ghost.
But don't shoot until you know exactly what it is.

Amen brother, there are no spirits left here to roam. If you see something such as this, then you can know that it doesn't come from God, and the devil can even transform himself into an angel of light. Devils impersonate friends and loved ones to deceive people into thinking that they are communicating with the dead and drawing them into things of the occult. The Bible calls this sorcery and witchcraft and warns to have no dealings with any kind of it, including fortunetellers, astrologers, seances, horoscopes or any other kind.

[1911crazy]

(Iron Will movie)   Quote;  trust no one trust the dogs how true that really is the dog will let you know when something is wrong for sure i've been there.

[JPSaxMan]

Amen brother, there are no spirits left here to roam. If you see something such as this, then you can know that it doesn't come from God, and the devil can even transform himself into an angel of light. Devils impersonate friends and loved ones to deceive people into thinking that they are communicating with the dead and drawing them into things of the occult. The Bible calls this sorcery and witchcraft and warns to have no dealings with any kind of it, including fortunetellers, astrologers, seances, horoscopes or any other kind.

Amen again. Anything left on this earth (relating to spirits or entities) is that of Satan and should be regarded as such.

[Swampman]

I seriously doubt that God allows those spirits to roam the woods and fields or abide in earthly structures.

He does.....I know he does.

[JPSaxMan]

I seriously doubt that God allows those spirits to roam the woods and fields or abide in earthly structures.

He does.....I know he does.

I would have to respectfully disagree. It's not God who allows it but Satan...God has control over Satan but Satan has control over this earth. Which explains why we see ghosts, apparitions, and spirits. As Ray so eloquently said, anything we see of an apparition is only that of the occult which should be regarded as a demonic being.

[Swampman]

The spirits of some dead people wander the earth.  Most of them hang out near where they left trying to come back.  They are not necessarily demonic.  Satan (like us)can only do God's will


1 Sam 28:15

[JPSaxMan]

I'll have to take a look at that verse Swampman.

[sunshinegirl]

I live in Arizona, moved from NY 3 years ago, and love hunting. MY fist deer hunt out, we were camped on an old Indian settlement. Not much left, but some stones that were bases from the lodges. First night a thunder storm rolled thought dumping lots of rain, then sleet with high winds. I was in a tent, and after it passed, I went out to put a few rock on my stakes to be sure they would hold if another storm came. It was real quiet, the others in my party were sleeping, and I heard what sounded like voices talking, very low, and not anything I could understand. Very much like men around a camp fire talking about the days events. This year I went hunting alone on a mesa right next to an area with several stone dwelling made a thousand year ago. When I decided on the area to hunt in, things began to go wrong. Minor stuff, but inside me, I felt like I was not suppose to be there. I even put off going on opening day, which was a Friday, and came in Sunday night. That night I was 20 miles from the nearest human, and felt for the first time in my life scared. I've  been hunting for 50 years, and I am not afraid of the dark. During my restless night, I had this impression of an old Indian bending over me in my cot while I slept, and oil lamps flickering in the ruin. The next day's hunt, I saw nothing, so I stayed another night. I was sitting on a high ridge over looking the valley, I moved my rifle, and found my scope mount almost ready to fall off. I checked it before I left to be sure every thing was tight. I packed out that day. The first place I visited, I felt like coming home. This last was like I was a hate enemy. I think perhaps I have links to those old Native Americans. These were not devil, nor demons, but spirits of people who died long ago, and some how some still remain where they once lived. To close your minds to the possibles, you close your mind to the truth.  To finish, I had never in all my life experienced anything like this back in New York.  Please don't quote scripture on this writing. Jews, Christians, and Moslems all follow the same basic book, and see how well they kill each other today

[Skunk]

SunShineGirl,

That was spooky. Great story.

[Swampman]

I know you're feelings well.  I have felt them many times myself.  I wouldn't call them fear.

Please don't quote scripture on this writing. Jews, Christians, and Moslems all follow the same basic book, and see how well they kill each other today

Jews follow only a very small part of the same Bible Christians use.  Muslims follow another book entirely that isn't even similar to the Bible.

[sunshinegirl]

I don't debate religion, as it has got it's place. I was brought up catholic, 12 years catholic school, so I know it's views. All I can say, is since I've come to this state, I have experienced things I can't explain. I am very logical minded, I want proof, and so far little real knowledge has crossed my path.

My nephew and I were scouting places in the area I hunted, Bloody Basin (named for General Crook who wiped out a group of Apaches in the area, killed them all, men, women, and children), and he took me down a some what passable road to an old camp site about 4 miles off the main dirt road he used 20 years ago. The road crossed a wash, so we stopped there and walked a ways past another old homestead of Indians to where he stayed. Again, nothing left, but some flags from a survey team who explored the site. Coming back we stepped off the road, and looked for pottery chard's. We pick them up, admire the skills of the makers, then drop them. Ever get that feeling someone is watching?? well I did, and looked to my side in the direction of the wash, saw no one. We continued walking a few yards farther, I looked back again, searching for a body, eyes, something, but nothing. I told my nephew were we being watched. It looked like a good area, but not for me, not with someone still there, especially a person I could not see. I am a solitary hunter, like the wide open spaces, and vast areas of wilderness in Arizona. I hunter the Catskills since I was 16, and never saw a ruin of the native peoples, but here they are all over. Has anyone reading this had similar experiences, please write back. Rachel

[JPSaxMan]

I don't feel there is anything wrong with quoting scripture when it comes to the issue of ghosts, spiritual figures, entities, etc. Maybe you do but I do not.

Can't say as I've had any kind of similar experiences, though. Sure I've had the feeling at times of like I was being watched while out in the wilderness. Once, while on a hunt with my best friend of many years, I thought he was over on my left and thought I saw him pass behind me as if on a drive. When I met up with him several minutes later turned out he was on my right. I told him that I thought I saw another hunter next to me and then he turned pale white. When I asked him what was wrong he told me that day was his grandfathers' birthday and that he was an avid hunter. I put two and two together. Later on that day we actually lost his father for a bit while on the gamelands...thankfully he managed to find us, and wasn't lost in the woods for that long. Almost as if someone were watching over us, like a guardian angel. I cannot quote scripture to this (I'm sure someone can) but angels will manifest themselves as humans if the need arises to ensure our safety. I feel that there was a greater force at work that day to ensure that we all returned home safe.

[sunshinegirl]

A angel is a possibility, but I would rather believe it was his grandfather hunting right along side you guys. If he loved hunting as much as I do, then why not tag along, heck, he might drive a deer toward you, or perhaps he already has. Ever have a deer come out of a spot you didn't expect one to be in. I am no expert on angels, so I never heard of one hunting.
All I can be sure of is in this state, and others around the Southwest, that lived thousands of Native American lived, and died here. They were not influenced by formal churches themes & laws, and pasted along what they saw & heard in stories. They lived here far longer than I, so I have to believe there has to be something to the idea of spirits. When was the last time you picked up a skinning stone held by someone who lived in your area a thousand years ago. I am a worse skeptic than many on spiritually, it violate my beliefs, but I am beginning to believe these are truly people from another time & dimension what ever, who are still alive in another form. A form I can feel, and see. One need only keep their mind open. I think I shall drop off now, and be quiet from now on, but I will enjoy reading more posts. Than you whom ever who started this link.

[Swampman]

They are from another dimension.  We can't see them because they are moving faster (or slower)than us.  Sometimes when we are sick, under the influence of drugs, or near death we get a glimpse.  Heaven & hell are right here amongst us.

[sunshinegirl]

You might be right with that statement. I was up one night unable to sleep about 2 am watching TV, and laying on the couch. The living room had the TV off a side wall, so I was watching perpendicular to the hall way. My sister's bedroom is at the other end of the house, and I can see her when see gets up at night to visit the bathroom. This night I saw a figure about her height coming down the hallway, rounded a corner of the kitchen counter, and headed into the kitchen. I didn't  look directly at her, just caught her shape from the corner of my eye. I waited for a bit expecting her to round the corner, and come into the living room. I heard no noise, so I got up, and went to the kitchen, no one there. I look, and found my sister still sleeping in her bed. I asked someone about this ,and they told me it was  a shadow person. Lots of people have seen them, but no explanation for what they are. It was so weird, and I would swear that it was her walking. Not a hunting story, but a mystery.

[JPSaxMan]

I asked someone about this ,and they told me it was  a shadow person. Lots of people have seen them, but no explanation for what they are.

Actually there is a common explanation for what they are. They are demonic entities that try to manifest themselves in the form of a human being but cannot. Since they are not of this world or of Heaven's realm, they are jealous of the fact that they cannot become human or an angel, and will try to manifest themselves as a human entity but fails because it was created by Satan (not by our Creator). Sounds out there I know but its the most common explanation of 'shadow people'.

[Swampman]

They may or may not be demonic.  Satan can't create anything.  Whoever gave that explanation, is explaining something they have no understanding of.

[JPSaxMan]

What else could they be, other than entities fallen from on high? There are certainly no angelic beings on this earth that can't manifest themselves as human beings or other beings. They certainly would never manifest themselves as something dark and/or disturbing. Satan can't create anything, you're right. However, it is possible that they are of his minions that are with him in hell. His demons, under his control.

[Swampman]

Anything is possible.  Angelic beings both good and bad manifest themselves from time to time.

Many of them (ghost) are simply beings (formerly humans)trying to return to the dimension from wince they came.  That's why they usually hang out close to where they left.

A common example will be something like a driver hits an old man with his car.  When he gets out to look he can't find anything.  When he checks with the locals they say that happens several times a year.  It turns out an old man was hit and killed there years ago.  His spirit simply hangs out there trying to return to this dimension.

[JPSaxMan]

There are no dimensions - only eternal life after death, in either heaven or hell. Once you have gone to either of those places there's no coming back. Only angels (and demons) can roam the earth and they are from either heaven or hell. Angels tend to be here for the sakes of guarding those who are believers and those who are on the edge of believing, and to carry out God's works for him. Demons tend to be here to whisper seeds of doubt, sin, and disbelief to those who fall victim to that. And to show themselves once in a while to make people believe in things like ghosts and spirits, exist.

You're a Christian man, aren't you Swampman? The Bible says nothing of 'dimensions' - only eternal life after death in either heaven or hell. Dunno where you get that from but...

[Swampman]

You're a Christian man, aren't you Swampman? The Bible says nothing of 'dimensions' - only eternal life after death in either heaven or hell. Dunno where you get that from

That's right, you don't.

We don't go to Heaven or hell yet.

[Graybeard]

Will you guys never learn that it's far more productive to argue with a tree or a power pole out in your yard than with Swampman? He has ALL the world's knowledge and is the one and only source of knowledge. If you don't believe it just ask him.

[Swampman]

No God is the source of knowledge.  I'm just repeating what he said.