Blagojevich wants National Guard helicopters to patrol gun control capital of Am

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Blagojevich wants National Guard helicopters to patrol gun control capital of America
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, July 21, 2008

The gun control capital of America - Chicago - where only the criminals are allowed to own firearms - has been hit by a fresh wave of crime and violence, prompting Governor Rod Blagojevich to call for National Guard helicopters to be used in law enforcement operations.

Blagojevich plans to form an “elite tactical team” to help the city fight crime, according to a speech he gave last week.

“Violent crime in the city of Chicago is out of control,” Blagojevich said at the bill signing ceremony. “I’m offering resources of the state to the city to work in a constructive way with Mayor Daley to do everything we can possibly do to help stop this violence,” said the governor.

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Citing the fact that a child has been shot nearly every day since the end of June, Blagojevich called for National Guard helicopters to be used in high crime areas.

However, as police department spokeswoman Monique Bond noted, the actual number of homicides in the city is significantly down.

“2008 may end with fewer than 500 homicides and that it is expected to be one of the least deadly years in the city in the last 40 years,” reports NBC5.com.

Following questions regarding the use of National Guard choppers in the city, Blagojevich’s office attempted to pour cold water over the issue by stating that National Guard troops would not enter the city.

“The only way the National Guard would be involved, if they are involved, is with the use of tactical helicopters that are currently used in narcotics operations,” spokesman Lucio Guerrero said in a prepared statement.

The precedent for National Guard units and military personnel to be used in domestic law enforcement has been a growing cancer for the last three decades.

Documentarian and radio talk show host Alex Jones has has attended numerous military urban warfare training drills across the U.S. where role players were used to simulate arresting American citizens, confiscating their weapons, and taking them to internment camps. Actors scream out that they have constitutional rights as they are handcuffed and hauled off to the detainment facility.

Legislation has already been passed that paves the way for the U.S. military to engage American citizens on home soil.

The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 allows the President to declare a “public emergency” and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to “suppress public disorder.”

Military-style drills involving unmarked black helicopters (the kind that the corporate media insists only exist inside the minds of conspiracy nutjobs) took place in Denver and Florida last month under the pretext of “terrorism training,” with choppers buzzing around downtown Denver and even causing damage to people’s property by flying well below legal altitudes

[powderman]

I'm going to ILL in a few weeks to visit family, I was raised there. I sweat it every time I cross the Big Wabash river into ILL. I carry in the car for personal protection, Ill denies me that right. Ill has some of the worst gun laws in America, and their Chicago is  the worst, also the worst in crime. residents of Chicago have been denied the right to protect themselves for years. Arm the public, form vigilante groups, eliminate gangs and other punks with extreme prejudice. Within a year or 2 there would be a lot less punks. Punks= gangs = punks. POWDERMAN. 

[billy_56081]

Just remember my friend PM it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[Empty Quiver]

What possible good will a helicopter do?  Other than bring national attention to the fact that suppressing citizens rights doesn't reduce violence, it is just more high dollar show boating. Those who keep electing incompetent leaders can reap what they have sown. How about locking up the gang members who are, in all likelyhood , responsible for the rise in violent crime. Maybe they should just work there way down through the Bill of Rights eliminating them until the crooks start behaving in a more socialist er sociable manner. Another idea just hit me, give any convicted felon a $135000.00 a year city job. Duties will include voting early and often for DER OVERMAYOR Daley, QC on incoming drug shipments, and maybe concierge at crack houses. Did I mention that I don't care for much of anything North of US 24 and could easily extend that South to I-64 in Illinois. Sorry, once in a while I just have to get that out of my system.
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[TribReady]

Am I being over-the-top, Conspiracy-ish when I picture shots being fired on one of these helicopters. Let's even say one is somehow shot down or they repeatedly come under fire.  Will that then trigger the NG to come into those areas on the ground?  Do you see where I'm going with this and is it just too "out there" of an idea on my part?

Will this entire scenario be another "training ground" (like Waco & Ruby ridge) to see what the Gov't can get away with?  Besides, it's all for our good isn't it?

[beemanbeme]

Trib, it hasn't brought the NG, but the incident of helicopters being fired on, while not common place, isn't at all unusual. To some, in the hood, it's a lark.
Back in 1995, marines were being given questionaire asking, amongst other things, if they would be willing to be deployed against American civilians? 
I don't know what the answer is but when you have large enclaves in our cities, and for that matter our Nation's Capital -- 'cept for the killin's it ain't no bad town-- that is so totally lawless, so ruthless that even the police are afraid to go there, what do you do? 

[thxmrgarand]

Many years ago, perhaps around 1990, the Wall Street Journal had a Page 1 article about the Chicago police sentencing a real bad guy to death by putting him out at night in some very rough Chicago ghetto.  The guy was white, a gangster, and not someone to evoke much sympathy.  He kept beating the prosecution in court so one night the police put him out unarmed on the streets in a black section of the city.  Sure enough, he was killed by inner city people (or at least, if the police did it they covered themselves real well).  A judge found the police guilty of sentencing him to death by putting him on the street.  It was a compelling article for someone like me who avoids large cities.  I know that Rochester, NY (for instance) has sections where a white person would be unlikely to survive being on foot and unarmed at night.  I expect many cities are the same way but Chicago stands out as a city that is controlled by gangster politicians.

The United States needs a national concealed carry law so that Red State people can safely traverse urban areas of Blue States.  Perhaps the best we can do right now is work for a McCain White House and lay the groundwork for Congress to return to a pro-gun majority.  An initiative like national concealed carry will have to wait for McCain's successor.  Alternatively, if Obama is elected we may end up burying our guns in our woodlots.  Thanks for your time.   

[SDS-GEN]

Chicago's own police Dept says murder is down this year (yeah, 500 murders a year sounds like a lot to me too), so I offer an explanation to King Rodney's potential use of military personel to fight crime.

Chicago is set to loose its handgun ban just like DC did.  So King Rodney calls up his Chicago political cronies and devises a plan that will give people a false idea of the real situation in the city.  Just saying that there is too much crime is not enough to get anyone's attention, but threatening to bring in the military to solve Chicago's crime problem really gets the people's attention.  Especially sheeple within 60 miles of downtown, most of whom have their heads buried in the sand or in their own rectums.  This whole thing is just a lame attempt for the commies in this state to gain more control over the people and to give an excuse to keep guns from law abiding citizens.

Also consider that the vast majority of murders in Chicago are one degenerate gangsta' cappin another degenerate gangsta'.  Maybe I'm the only one who feels this really isn't a problem?

[GRIMJIM]

The problem with that is someone needs to teach those gangsta's how to shoot. They usually miss the target and hit some kid or old lady.

[billy_56081]

The problem with that is someone needs to teach those gangsta's how to shoot. They usually miss the target and hit some kid or old lady.

I agree with ya there, too bad we can't make a place for these animals to go and shoot it out where innocents can't get hurt. I'm thinking it should be put on TV and sell advertising to pay for the victims of these cockroaches crimes.

[jcn59]

Americans have been putting their lives on the line to protect our rights and freedoms for over two centuries, now we're talking about "burying our guns in woodlots"?  Are our "rights" really "privileges" granted us by our elected dictators?   Maybe we'll be lucky, and our governors will offer us a buyout at say $100. a gun??  Charleton Heston, that's him in the corner......crying.

The framers of our constitution put their LIVES on the line when they "signed up".  Where have all the heroes gone.............

[torpedoman]

You really gotta wonder just how many of those poor "children" that got shot were in fact teenage gangbangers involved in a turf war and just how many were punks shot by the cops.

[jcn59]

98%

[Chilachuck]

Even from here in Alaska, it's obvious that Blag-o-wind is exagerating the problem to scare people into letting him have his way. Just for starts, the timing; if the problem was that bad, he would have had the plan in the works long ago.

Heh, it just hit me. John Ringo, author of the Dreen War series, is using "blage" to mean a cobbled up mess. I'll have to see if he is thinking of Illinois.

[beemanbeme]

When some Lib gun grabber starts whining about they're killin' our cirrun. They're really talking about some 17 yo 175# with a 18" neck and a rap sheet a yard long.  But "nothing serious" don'tchaknow. Serious meaning multiple provable murders.

I forget which but one of the TV net works is gonna do a feature on the Crips and the Bloods.  Let them strut and preen on camera.  I think they ought to do a feature on the cops making a sweep and gunning them down in the streets and letting them lay there several days before picking them up. Maybe call the show Gangbang Reality.  And tell those sobbing Mommas, you're just about 10 years or so too late with your concern. Maybe let Bill Cosby narrate it. 

'Course, the situation in the inner city could be so bad that even with all the battle gear the cops have, they're afraid to go in there??

[powderman]

BEEMAN. YEP. Punks are punks, regardless of age or color. We see them in Lou, but the cops have cracked down quite a bit. POWDERMAN. 

[gypsyman]

Somebody said it earlier. 99% of these hoods have rap sheets a foot long. If the justice system worked, they'ld all be sitting in jail. I remember doing a gun show back around '93 or '94, just after Clinton signed in that massive money bill to beef up the police dept.'s, and hire thousands of new officers. The show was in eastern,Pa., not to far outside New York city. 2 New York city policeman were walking the show, and I got to talking with them. I asked them what they thought about the crime bill just being passed. Both just laughed. Said that New York didn't need more LE, just bigger jails. Said there were times that they would arrest the same guy 3 times in one week. Politicians don't want to solve the crime problem, they want more control over the people. I think it's called communism.  gypsyman

[jcn59]

Our D.A. says law enforcement doesn't provide him with sufficient evidence to charge the individual (sometimes) and even when he can charge, the evidence provided is insufficient to convict.   Lawyers have a doctorate in law, and law enforcement a semester or two at best.  I don't believe our law enforcement even needs a degree. 

Law enforcement is a tough job.  If most D.A.s had to wear a gun with some likelihood they would have to use it, they would look for another career.  With the abuse LEOs have to take from the criminal element, I'm surprised we can recruit any for the measly $35-40 thousand they get paid straight time.

The jail is always too small and the public doesn't want to build a larger one at their expense.   When I was a teenager I believed you would be locked up if you stole a car.  What a surprise to find out years later that you had to steal three to get anyone's attention.  If the court would lower the boom on first-time offenders, there would be fewer re-offending.  As it is, we teach the crooks that they can get away with it.  The system perpetuates itself.

No, I never stole a car.