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U.S. government: We know parenting better than you
« on: July 24, 2008, 07:12:12 AM »
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U.S. government: We know parenting better than you
Proposals would give Washington unprecedented control over kids

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Posted: July 24, 2008
12:00 am Eastern


By Chelsea Schilling
© 2008 WorldNetDaily


The U.S. House of Representatives is scheduled to debate two bills that could give the federal government unprecedented control over the way parents raise their children – even providing funds for state workers to come into homes and screen babies for emotional and developmental problems.

The Pre-K Act (HR 3289) and the Education Begins at Home Act (HR 2343) are two bills geared toward military and families who fall below state poverty lines. The measures are said to be a way to prevent child abuse, close the achievement gap in education between poor and minority infants versus middle-class children and evaluate babies younger than 5 for medical conditions.

'Education Begins at Home Act' – HR 2343

HR 2343 is sponsored by Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill., and cosponsored by 55 Democrats and 11 Republicans. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that implementing the Education Begins at Home Act would cost taxpayers $190 million for state home visiting plus "such sums as may be necessary" for in-hospital parent education.

While the bill may appear to be well-intentioned, Pediatrician Karen Effrem told WND government provisions in HR 2343 to evaluate children for developmental problems go too far.

"The federal definition of developmental screening for special education also includes what they call socioemotional screening, which is mental health screening," Effrem said. "Mental health screening is very subjective no matter what age you do it. Obviously it is incredibly subjective when we are talking about very young children."

While the program may not be mandatory for low-income and military families, there is no wording in the Education Begins at Home Act requiring parental permission for treatment or ongoing care once the family is enrolled – a point that leads some to ask where parental rights end and the government takes over. Also, critics ask how agents of the government plan to acquire private medical and financial records to offer the home visiting program.

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"There's no consent mentioned in the bill for any kind of screening – medical, health or developmental," Effrem said. "There are privacy concerns because when home visitors come into the home they assess everything about the family: Their financial situation, social situation, parenting practices, everything. All of that is put into a database."

Effrem said it does not specify whether parents are allowed to decline evaluations, drugs or treatment for their children once they are diagnosed with developmental or medical conditions.

"How free is someone who has been tagged as needing this program in the case of home visiting – like a military family or a poor family?" she asked. "How free are they to refuse? Even their refusal will be documented somewhere. There are plenty of instances where families have felt they can't refuse because they would lose benefits, be accused of not being good parents or potentially have their children taken away."

When WND asked Effrem how long state-diagnosed conditions would remain in a child's permanent medical history, she responded:

"Forever. As far as I know, there isn't any statute of limitations. The child's record follows them through school and potentially college, employment and military service."

Effrem said conflicts could also arise when parents do not agree with parenting standards of government home visitors.

"Who decides how cultural tolerance is going to be manifested?" she asked. "There's some blather in the language of the bill about having cultural awareness of the differences in parenting practices, but it seems like that never applies to Christian parents."

'Providing Resources Early for Kids'

The Pre-K Act, or HR 3289, is sponsored by Rep. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, and cosponsored by 116 Democrats and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla. Estimated to cost $500 million for each of fiscal years 2008 through 2013, the bill provides funds for state-approved education. Government workers would reach mothers and fathers in the hospital after a baby has been delivered to promote Pre-K programs.

"They give them information about Child Care Resource and Referral Network so they can get the child into a preschool or daycare that follows the state standards and get the mom working as quickly as possible," she said. "It's always that sort of thing: It's a list of resources, it's intruding on parental autonomy and authority and it's not necessarily accurate or welcome information."

While parents may choose to be involved in preschool programs, Effrem said the Pre-K Act poses similar concerns about government trumping parents' rights.

"Once they are involved, they don't have any say over curriculum," she said. "There's plenty of evidence of preschool curriculum that deals with issues that have nothing to do with a child's academic development – like gender, gender identity, careers, environmentalism, multiculturalism, feminism and all of that – things that don't amount to a hill of beans as far as a child learning how to read."

Effrem said the Pre-K Act extends a "really messed-up K-12 system" to include even younger, more vulnerable children.

"This is an expansion of the federal government into education when there really is no constitutional provision for it to do so."


 

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 07:36:11 AM »
MS is right again.  I worked in child protection for 12+ years.  We have enough laws.  What we don't have is sufficient funding and effective treatment modalities.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 11:16:21 AM »
After reading in the Mother of All Messes thread, that Paul Craig Roberts lays all of America's financial woes, and the trampling of the Bill of Rights squarely on the Republican Alter, I was totally shocked to see this bill was sponsored by a Democrat ????
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 12:02:04 PM »
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After reading in the Mother of All Messes thread, that Paul Craig Roberts lays all of America's financial woes, and the trampling of the Bill of Rights squarely on the Republican Alter, I was totally shocked to see this bill was sponsored by a Democrat ? I'm not democrat or Republican.
 
 
 

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 12:10:50 PM »
Can't say I was surprised.  Aid To Families With Dependent Children (AFDC) ended in Wisconsin in 1996 when Clinton was president.  Probably ended nation wide during his years.  Nobody noticed because of the show Clinton was putting on for us with the Polish girl. 

AFDC was a counter productive program which encouraged unemployment and "cash" incomes as it only supported unemployed families at a 80% level.  Back in those days, if a 14 year old girl became pregnant, Wisconsin social service programs would set her up in her own apartment as though she was an intelligent adult.  She would be eligible for $426. for her and the baby, H.U.D. housing, food stamps, free child care, free health care and fuel assistance, not to mention other spiffs.  The apartment would then become a "party house" for other children and miscreants to get each other pregnant.  Fortunately that craziness ended.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 12:15:03 PM »
Child abuse and drug induced disorders are RAMPANT amongst poverty level children. However, most STATES have the laws and programs in place but lack FUNDING, STAFFING, TRAINING, and ENFORCEMENT to take the corrective steps, ie, drug testing of welfare recipients and mother's receiving aid and wic.  
  I believe this is another step down the slippery slope toward Hitler's avowed: "Give me the minds of the young and I will rule the world."  

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 01:30:51 PM »
ms,
     I was sorry to see you felt I took a shot at you.   I have been voting Libratarian, when feasable, for 30 years.  Lately, I find myself voting Republican more than I like, simpley because the Democrate scare then be-jeebers out of me !
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 01:52:48 PM »
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ms,
     I was sorry to see you felt I took a shot at you.   I have been voting Libratarian, when feasable, for 30 years.  Lately, I find myself voting Republican more than I like, simpley because the Democrate scare then be-jeebers out of me ! Ha ha I'm alright I didn't see it that way we all are good people here.

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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008, 03:43:48 PM »
"give me a child's mind until he is five and he is mine forever more" LENIN
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