while looking thru the 08 H&R catalog, I noticed a couple of magnum cartridgte listings. While of no particular interest to me, I haven't read much about any expereince with these calibers in an H&R from this group. Did they get beyond the printed page, or were lost in the Big Green shuffle? I also saw a few more chamberings with the cinnamon lami thumbhole stock, though blued, not stainless like the ,45-70. Any thoughts on the thumbhole butt stock? Looks to be comfortable, but I have found other versions seem to have bulges in awkward places. They show cinnamon and camo laminated thumbhole configurations. They look to be the same, just different layering..??