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The Great Western Big Bore Prairie Dog Shoot
« on: July 30, 2008, 04:33:27 PM »
Time for me to stock up on .457 roundball!

Can't wait!!  Airguns Only!! (smallbores, too)!! 


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Re: The Great Western Big Bore Prairie Dog Shoot
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2008, 04:08:54 AM »
Sounds like it will be a fun shoot for sure. At what range will you sight in for with those .457's and what will be your (point blank range) to hit those doggies?

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Re: The Great Western Big Bore Prairie Dog Shoot
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 03:47:12 PM »
Sounds like it will be a fun shoot for sure. At what range will you sight in for with those .457's and what will be your (point blank range) to hit those doggies?

     You can see what the roundball does by using the following ballistic calculator.  Don't forget to fill in the box in the upper left hand corner (.457 RB will really be .454 when it leaves the barrel so put .454) and filling in SWC will give you an idea as there is no RB setting.  Enter a sight height of 1.65 inches  Roundball goes 870fps out of my rifle, and I will be sighting in in at 50 yards, 

     I just arranged to have a bunch of 155grain, and 175 grain SWC's to be cast for the trip as well.  I am hoping to see over 800fps with the 175grainers.  The 155grainSWC's are going as fast as roundball in some of these rifles.

     Knowing the trajectory of this set-up like I do, I can predictably hold-over properly with nice 1 inch drop increments out to about 75yards using a 50 yard zero, and expect a hit if I do my part. 

     This is a group I shot using 150grainSWC's (these were harder lead, slower, too) off the steady stix real quick one day while sitting down in the field.  Scope was a fixed 4X32mm rimfire scope.   Off a table with a rest, I should do better.


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Re: The Great Western Big Bore Prairie Dog Shoot
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 03:20:48 AM »
I knew that you were also shooting conicals in the air rifle from your previous posts. What kind of twist rate does that barrel have? a one in 48" perhaps?

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Re: The Great Western Big Bore Prairie Dog Shoot
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 12:58:39 PM »
I knew that you were also shooting conicals in the air rifle from your previous posts. What kind of twist rate does that barrel have? a one in 48" perhaps?

     These lower velocities seem to change the whole game as far as barrel twist.  My gun shoots a lot of different stuff accurately with a barrel using very shallow rifling and a 1:20 twist.
     I need to do some long-range testing to determine just how stable they are out past 50yards.  The gun loves both MaxiBalls, and roundball just about the same with RB getting the edge with limited testing.
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Re: The Great Western Big Bore Prairie Dog Shoot
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2008, 02:12:34 AM »
The round balls seem to be stable enough as I push a patched .440 @ 1,100fps a full 100yds out of a 9" single shot blkpwder pistol. The accuracy is there and it is great fun to shoot but the mid-range trajectory leaves a lot to be desired as the poi is quite high back at the 50yd line. I settled for sighting the thing just a couple inches high at 50yds and settling for a reasonable poi out at 75 to 80yds. This is mainly a fun gun with a lot of target shooting but the round balls will group well enough that I cant resist taking it out on a Coyote hunt a few times a year.