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Offline JPShelton

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Re: The Rifle I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2008, 12:28:59 AM »
When I first saw this thread, I was tempted to respond with something like, "How about a rifle that: 1) doesn't have a rough barrel prone to copper fouling; 2) doesn't have a barrel with an eccentric chamber; 3) doesn't come factory equipped with the sorriest excuse of a trigger imaginable; 4) doesn't come with a floorplate that refuses to unlatch when YOU WANT it to, but has NO PROBLEM doing so when you really, really, don't..........   And so on and so forth.

I know this is a secton for true believers in all things Ruger, and the comments above have probably torqued a few people off.

That really is not my intent.

Perhaps I have been chronically unlucky, but every Ruger firearm I've owned except for two has been a chronic disappointment.

My first Ruger was a 10/22 Deluxe Sporter. I should say "is" because I still have it.  I have been highly satisfied with it for the last 27 years.  It shoots 1/2" groups at fifty yards all day, and slightly tighter with WW Super X ammo.  It is sufficiently precise for the small game hunting that I've done with it over the years and is accurate enough to be fun at the range.

My second Ruger was a Number 1 B in .270 that had a rough barrel prone to copper fouling quickly.  Next came a Government Target Model .22 pistol that was also a dissapointment, being less accurate by far than my father's late 60's vintage tapered-barrel Target Model .22 pistol.  It turned out to have been improperly crowned.  Next came a Ruger M-77UL in .250 Savage that had an eccentric chamber.  Next came another M-77 in .30-'06 with laminated stock that I could find no fault with.  I regret trading it.  Next came a .357 Bisley Blackhawk that liked to let screws loose, which in turn became lost (And did so even when thread locker was applied).  Next came another No.1B but in .300 Weatherby.  It had an issue with the extractor and a lever that wouldn't stay latched.  Next came an M-77MKII in .270 that had a crappy barrel, crappy trigger, insanely stiff safety, and a floorplate latch that was practically impossible to use when I wanted to use it, but came undone when I didn't want it to.  To top it off, it was an even worse grouper than my Mini-14 Ranch Rifle, which I forgot to mention.  Talk about a major dissapointment -the Mini-14 is one of the things that most regret ever purchasing.  Since it seemed to be a scaled down M-14, I expected it to shoot kind of like one, but it wasn't even close.  The best it would do was 2.5 MOA and it wouldn't do that very regularly.  3-4 MOA was more like it.

I think William B. Ruger was a superb designer, and by design, I find Ruger products to be very aappealing, even now.  The problem is that in my experience, they've been lacking in execution.  Sometimes the issues were petty but annoying, none the less.  Sometimes they were what I'd consider major.  Almost all the Rugers I've owned were disappointing.

I guess I'd like to see Ruger build something that I could buy confidently, knowing that it would FUNCTION as well as it ought to by design.

If fairness to Ruger, I am probably the only person on the planet to ever own a M-700 Remington that didn't shoot worth beans, so maybe I've just been unlucky.  I know a lot of people swear by Ruger's stuff.  My father is one such fella.  I mostly swore at the Ruger stuff I've owned, and swore I wouldn't be giving Ruger any more of my money, except as needed to keep my 10/22 running for the rest of my life.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2008, 02:13:24 AM »
I've had bad luck with a bunch of Remington 700's---they're all hype as far as I'm concerned.


I'm down to 3 Rugers---but have had a bunch in the past(all were pretty good to me)---a 10/22 22'' Wally World special traded the stock for a walnut DSP stock---5.5'' stainless bull 22/45---"580" stainless Mini-14.


On my wish list is a new Mini-30 and a SP101.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2008, 04:46:38 PM »
I wish Ruger would make a 4" sp101 w/ adjustable sights in .357 mag and .22 lr.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2008, 04:55:08 PM »
I've had bad luck with a bunch of Remington 700's---they're all hype as far as I'm concerned.


I'm down to 3 Rugers---but have had a bunch in the past(all were pretty good to me)---a 10/22 22'' Wally World special traded the stock for a walnut DSP stock---5.5'' stainless bull 22/45---"580" stainless Mini-14.


On my wish list is a new Mini-30 and a SP101.

I've had both.  The Mini-30 (like all Minis)was very inaccurate.  The SP101 is way too heavy for concealed carry.
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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2008, 11:53:20 PM »
The Minis I've owned or shot ranged from OK to abysmal, like the stainless Mini 30 I sold after a month. 5-6" groups? Come on.

Ruger's rimfires are usually quite good though and now I have a M77 in 6.5x55. It's an honest 3/4" shooter and I won't part with it any time soon.

I'd say they have some quality control problems.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2008, 02:30:42 PM »
 too bad everyone dis's the #1.i happen to have a few 6 i think,from 22-250 to 45-70,all shoot moa or tighter at 100 yds.my 45/70 is a cast bullet load and will punch nice 45 cal clovers at 100.
 if i had a choice,a #1 in 45/70 rsi would be cool,and a 358 win in a m77 mkII as well.the ultralight not the full size like the hawkeye.i have a hawkeye and love it but wouldn't mind a little lighter/shorter one,i may have to buy a frontier and restock it.g-beard wouldn't like my cabinet i'm afraid,too many rugers in there now.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2008, 03:34:59 AM »
I would like to see them make their 77 rimfire series in the international version with the Mannlicher stock.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2008, 07:55:59 AM »
I've never had any problems with my #1s, and I would like to see #1b chambered in 6.5x55.
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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2008, 08:56:22 AM »
I'll second that motion.  I'd love to have one of those.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2008, 02:10:16 PM »
I think the problem with Ruger has been in the past that WBR had a vision of a tightly controlled design bureau (headed by himself, naturally) but that the Ruger Empire, with its dozens of pistols, revolvers, .22's, rifles of every kind and kaliber, just got too much out of hand for a small control body to oversee. Ruger himself was just too prolific in design, and too narrow in his marketing. I think he saw himself as a 20th Century Mauser or Winchester: the Caesar of a Mighty Empire that would set the standard for all firearms and enforce it in the marketplace by the sheer power of superior design/engineering. It was a notion that worked when the company was smaller and produced only a few lines, but was too cumbersome for one man to control as it grew. The Ruger Empire is now in the hands of a diversified group of business-oriented managers. Whether this bodes well or ill for the marque remains to be seen. Putting quality control in the hands of people of vision, who are determined to maintain high standards, and staffing with highly qualified people, may result in an empire that lasts. But seeing how the bean counters are buying and selling and trading and amalgamating all of the old traditional marques, of late, one is hard-put to feel any optimism. I'm pessimistic by nature, and can foresee a future arms giant which incorporates the digested remains of Winchester, Remington, S&W, Marlin, Ruger, and a few dozen lesser fry, into one gigantic, multi-tentacled Spaghetti Monster of a company that produces nothing but junk guns, and markets them using the Smiling Bob/Enzyte model, using Billy May as a spokesmodel.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2008, 11:04:49 AM »
I'd love to see a rifle like the 10/22 in .22 Hornet.  That would be cool.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2008, 11:54:25 AM »
I've been a fan of Ruger for many years, until he redesigned the M77 to the Mark II's.  The only fault I've found with the original M77 Mark I's, is that they could have been designed for controlled round feed instead of plunger ejector.  I have 9 Rugers all made prior to the Mark II's in M77, 10/22 RSI, No 1's RSI, and Mini 14's.  The mini's are not extremely accurate but well within my tolerances, about 1 3/4 to 2 1/2" depending on ammo loads and bullets.  I've not played with them enough over the years to really find an accurate loading for them with handloads.  The only Ruger handgun I would like to own is an original single six convertible.  I don't need one or have any use for one compared to handguns I already own, but it is the only one I'd care to have. 
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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2008, 01:21:23 PM »
To get back to your original Idea of a rolling block design.
I see problems with it and rimless and rimed rounds with an interchangeable barrel selection.  It would work with either round OK but the barrels would not be inter changable and you would have a ruger No 2? or 4?
I would love to see Ruger modify their red label in 28 ga to either take a single or over and under barrel and chamber the barrels in rimmed and rimless rounds.  If they modify it to a single shot I would expect it would look and work like the T\C aristacrat rifles of yester year.
What I would really like to see from Ruger is a Buck and Duck combo on the gold label.
28 or 30 inch 3" tubes with screw in chokes and a 22 or 24 inch rifle sighted set with either screw in rifle chokes or one barrel fully rifled and the other screw in choke.
I would like to see the finish of the reciever in the dark target grey and the barrels dark flat black with dull dark wood with a beaver tail fore end and pistol grip stock.
One gun two set of barrels that will duck, upland,(28 -30") turkey, and deer hunt (22-24" rifle sights).

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2009, 07:38:08 PM »
I'd like to see a No1-A or 1b-B in 303 British.
It's the obvious chambering IMO.
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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2009, 06:23:16 PM »
Model 77 Mark II Stainless in Walnut stocked International .358 Winchester. Yes the stock forend and/or barrel would have to mate to fit. Whatever it takes, that's the rifle I'd like to have.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2009, 09:53:22 PM »
96/357
Bring back the bp saa.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2009, 04:37:49 AM »
Slabsides, I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE!!!. I "wish" and that's all it is, that Ruger would give us a 44 Sp. Blackhawk on their smaller frame, "I SAID RUGER" not some small run by some distributer, that becomes non-existant almost immediatley, (or prohibitely pricey just because its "limited").
    I like the Ruger no.1, never really had a problem, even with the one I got years and years ago. BUT.... I like my NO.3 EVEN MORE!!. CRASH87

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2009, 11:53:38 AM »
The # 1 is by far my favorite Ruger. Despite all their tempermentality, I really loved mine in .308 and wish I had it back. After a little shimming of the fore-end it shot nice 1" groups with decent ammo. Great for a hunting rifle.

The things I would really like to see are all #1's.

1) A .22lr. It's entirely too much fun and cheap not to have a .22lr in your favorite style gun, even if the gun itself is pretty expensive.
2) Many more in the international variation, especially .303 British and other classic cartridges. This includes a .22lr International.
3) I realize how far in the minority I am here, but I really don't consider most hunting rifles fully complete until they have a good set of iron sights. I know you can get decent peep sights for the #1 but I'd like to see the #1 B with some iron sights as well. The scopes are great and all, but often ruin the lines and the feel/balance of that rifle.
4) I'd like to see them replace the standard Beaver-tail fore-end on #1 B's with a Schnabel-style fore-end. It would really them stand out.
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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2009, 12:19:23 PM »
The gun I would like to see Ruger make would be a double barrel 45-70 or a drilling with a 20ga and two 45-70's side by side.  Boy where could you hunt that you could not take that.  Even if it was just a double barrel would make me happly.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2009, 03:55:01 AM »
 Well there is no shortage of things i would like alot of different companies to make , As for Ruger i would be happier if they would bring some of their discountinued guns back to market rather then new this's and thats ...

 As far as a 308/7.62 NATO mini ? Waste of time ... There are to many competeing companys that are producing those from the sky is the limit to the budget Tacticool guy to the budget hunter , Someone forgot the Saiga ( russian AK type) 308 for i believe $450 ish a little higher perhaps with the panic buying .. A $600+ CETME ( the originator of the H&K G3) that has fair accuracy in 7.62 NATO and mil-surp 20 round mags that can be had for around $5 bucks give or take.. So yeah i dont see that mini 308 going over well , even if it was a great shooter the average joe isnt going to know this ... He is going to rely on what he learned over most of his life from friends family and his own experinces , that the mini isnt accurate , I dont think a new caliber would change that common mind set and it would fail...

                                                                  **  Well I had 3 paragraphs of venting here and decided nah **

 So now that i decided not to post all my venting on various different subjects that i ran into and run into regularly I'll just go onto the Handis.
 Handis Arent great guns because they come out of the box Sub MOA , They have gotten their great reputation from US , Yeah us men that go beyond the call of duty to make them shooters ... Not that every maker doesnt have issues some worse then others some more frequently then others ... But if you take the time to go through all the accumulated wealth and information in the Handi forums.. You'll find that there are countless hours of mens time and R&D and load devolopment and money in ammo and reloading components and junk they dont tell their wives about that i wont even get into .. The point is it is taken for granted , like a kid that had everything handed to them , they dont value it the same as if its earned... To me arms are like that , I earned everything I've had in this life ... and I earn the accuracy i achive in my weapons from reading , trial and error and the help of fellow gunnies like myself ... Every rifle should be considered a HANDI rifle, It may come out of that box just itching to "one hole group" with that one box of * insert random bullet wt. make and cal. here* Rarely is that the case ..
 I know i didnt work with weapons and do anything close to what i do now to them to make them shoot when i was in high school or college aged but i try not to judge the weapon and ammo choice of the time for my lack of knowledge ...

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2009, 12:04:32 AM »
I doubt seriously that I will ever see it happen, but for S & G's I would love them to do a run of the standard Redhawk in 45 Colt with the 7 1/2" barrel. Then I might be able to finish off my collection.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2009, 04:53:35 PM »
If ruger would make a 5 shot bisley(6 inch barrel) and chambered in a 45colt/454 and keep the price in line with the other bisleys--- I'd be first in line with money in hand. As for a rifle if they would make a #1 in cartridges like 45-70, 45-120, etc, with octagon barrel and put some good target sights on it and keep the price close to a $1000 it would do well. Everyone wants to be like Quigley.  ;D

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2009, 02:54:37 AM »
They have already made(but sadly discontinued) my wish rifle.....;The Deerfield Carbine......It's just that they don'/t make a 10 rd magazine for it.    If they would only do that they would have sold a lot more.

A Deerfield in 357 would be a great walkabout woods gun too.
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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2009, 04:45:49 PM »
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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2009, 09:42:42 AM »
 A Bisley RIGHT HANDED-loading gate on the RIGHT side of the gun) blued in 4.75" in .45 Long Colt and another in .22LR-scaled down of course! ;)There are enough left handed single actions out there for awhile!
 Adjustable sights of course.
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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2009, 10:56:52 AM »
Bring the MK-II back in .270 and the like with a better trigger and quit trying to push the Hawkeye over it. Don`t get me wrong, I like the Hawkeye, but I would rather have the beefier stock MK-II.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2009, 11:07:31 AM »
How about a compact M77 in 35 Rem or 250 Sav.
with a 1" shorter stock as a kids gun.  With sights.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2009, 02:47:38 PM »
How about a compact M77 in 35 Rem or 250 Sav.
with a 1" shorter stock as a kids gun.  With sights.

I`m with you, I like open sights on my rifles.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2009, 02:56:36 PM »
I was thinking the short rifle with Iron sights as well as the 35 Rem and 250 Savage would be great kids rifles.
Deer caliber, mild recoil, easy to get ammo.

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Re: The Gun I Wish Ruger Would Make
« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2009, 08:26:39 AM »
Bolt action, CRF, stainless in .375 H&H, not .375 Ruger, in a left-hand model.
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