Thanks for the info guys. I need something with a little more reach than my 30-30 and 35 rem. And I really don't want to set up and reload either for this one. I have been happy with the factory 30-30 stuff for no more than I shoot, and I think I will just go with factory ammo for the .270 also. Actually a new pair of eyes would likely help more than than a new caliber, but since that is not a handy solution, I think I will try this rifle. And Quick, thanks for the info on the PF-9, my local dealer has one now and I'm leaning pretty heavy towards it. Of course I still have to pay for that Colt Ltwt Commander on layaway....... 44 Man