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Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« on: August 03, 2008, 12:53:27 PM »
They sure are interesting looking, but I hate to spend over $1.00 each to see if they work.
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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 03:47:35 PM »
They sure are interesting looking, but I hate to spend over $1.00 each to see if they work.

I think they work just fine in my Huntsman with Blackhorn 209 and the Hubbard Plug. I haven't heard a bad report with them yet, but I have heard several reports of MOA accuracy. MUCH better than a PowerBelt IMO.



They even passed my torture chamber test.





This is the best price I have seen, don't know about after shipping though.

http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Muzzleloading/Bullets/Bullets/Hornady/Hornady+FPB+50+Caliber+350+Grain+Bullet+6600
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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2008, 04:25:32 PM »
They're fairly soft. However, they work pretty well in the .50-90 Sharps.
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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2008, 02:21:37 AM »
It's a shame the Blackhorn 209 doesn't really work in the NEF guns.
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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 12:42:15 PM »
what are results per sidekick 26" ,(2) 50grn pyro pellets,primer carrier/209 winchester primer   ?

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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2008, 04:09:55 PM »
It's a shame the Blackhorn 209 doesn't really work in the NEF guns.

Why doesn't it work in nef guns?

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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2008, 04:13:16 PM »
It's a shame the Blackhorn 209 doesn't really work in the NEF guns.

Why doesn't it work in nef guns?


I would like to know also? When I look at the breach plug it looks to me like there is a large cavity down into the breach plug and the flame from the 209 would not have far to travel to reach the powder. I do know the these guns dont like 777 pellets. My fathers has a slight hesitation with 777 pellets but thats understandable being that the pellets are so far away from the flame.

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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2008, 06:40:02 PM »
It's a shame the Blackhorn 209 doesn't really work in the NEF guns.

Why doesn't it work in nef guns?

It's a shame the Blackhorn 209 doesn't really work in the NEF guns.

Why doesn't it work in nef guns?


I would like to know also? When I look at the breach plug it looks to me like there is a large cavity down into the breach plug and the flame from the 209 would not have far to travel to reach the powder. I do know the these guns dont like 777 pellets. My fathers has a slight hesitation with 777 pellets but thats understandable being that the pellets are so far away from the flame.

It doesn't work reliably due to the primer carriers allowing too much gas to escape, you need a sealed ignition for it to work without hesitation. Blackhorn 209 os a progressive powder and you need flame and pressure for ignition, if one or the other is not enough, it just isn't going to work. You could use the hottest primer Fed 209A, but if you don't have the pressure (seal), you will get a hang-fire at best. You may get 1 good shot off per primer carrier, but after even only 1 shot you will get some gas cutting on your primer carrier, and thus decreasing your seal, what little there is. I have tested this extensively with the primer carriers, .25 ACP plug, and the one-of-a-kind Hubbard plug. I even used some Small Rifle MAGNUM Primers in my .25 ACP cases, and they are not even reliable 100%. It is not the length of the flame channel, the T/C Triumph has one of the longest flame channels in the Industry, yet the T/C guns work perfectly with BH209 because they have a sealed ignition.

If someone would make a breech plug like the T/C for the NEF's, there would be no problems with igniting BH209. Problem is, no one is problably going to bother with a discontinued platform, even though there are several that would buy them.
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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2008, 02:34:44 AM »
It's a shame the Blackhorn 209 doesn't really work in the NEF guns.

Why doesn't it work in nef guns?

It's a shame the Blackhorn 209 doesn't really work in the NEF guns.

Why doesn't it work in nef guns?


I would like to know also? When I look at the breach plug it looks to me like there is a large cavity down into the breach plug and the flame from the 209 would not have far to travel to reach the powder. I do know the these guns dont like 777 pellets. My fathers has a slight hesitation with 777 pellets but thats understandable being that the pellets are so far away from the flame.

It doesn't work reliably due to the primer carriers allowing too much gas to escape, you need a sealed ignition for it to work without hesitation. Blackhorn 209 os a progressive powder and you need flame and pressure for ignition, if one or the other is not enough, it just isn't going to work. You could use the hottest primer Fed 209A, but if you don't have the pressure (seal), you will get a hang-fire at best. You may get 1 good shot off per primer carrier, but after even only 1 shot you will get some gas cutting on your primer carrier, and thus decreasing your seal, what little there is. I have tested this extensively with the primer carriers, .25 ACP plug, and the one-of-a-kind Hubbard plug. I even used some Small Rifle MAGNUM Primers in my .25 ACP cases, and they are not even reliable 100%. It is not the length of the flame channel, the T/C Triumph has one of the longest flame channels in the Industry, yet the T/C guns work perfectly with BH209 because they have a sealed ignition.

If someone would make a breech plug like the T/C for the NEF's, there would be no problems with igniting BH209. Problem is, no one is problably going to bother with a discontinued platform, even though there are several that would buy them.


Alrighty I understand it now. I wonder if a machine shop would be able to make a plug? I know a couple machinests. What I would like to see is a breach plug that accepts the red primer carriers like my knight disc elite uses. Those little buggers seal up real good. So good in fact it is hard to get the primer down into the carrier but the seal and water tightness of it make it well worth it. If I can talk one of these guys into making something along those lines would anybody here be willing to buy one if the price isnt to crazy?

I really like my dads huntsman but I hate the hangfires. I can lay my knight in water and it will still fire without fail. NEF had a fantastic gun if only they would have improved the breachplug.

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Re: Hornady’s FPB .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullet
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2009, 07:35:40 PM »
It's a shame the Blackhorn 209 doesn't really work in the NEF guns.



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