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NEF-Remington New Question
« on: August 05, 2008, 06:22:06 AM »
Are there currently any new NEF's being made at the Remington plant or is production on hold at this point? I asked this question in another barrel repair/calling Remington for status thread, but received no response. I'm intrested to see and hear what comes from the new change. I'm hoping for the best! Thanks -g
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2008, 05:00:46 AM »
Wow, And I thought this would be an easy one to answer. Sorry if I hit a raw nerve guys but I can find no answers on either the Remington or H&R web site.   ???  Someone please clue me in. 
Thanks. -g
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 05:04:31 AM »
This is the latest update I got from Marlin.

Tim

The parts inventory is now in place in NY with lots of barrels in inventory so parts orders are moving and barrel fits should start this week. Brian and John from the Gardner plant are in Ilion facilitating the new operation, so they have some good people training the new staff. The assembly process has been re-engineered and should make a nice improvement in the firearms, we should see some genuine improvements in cosmetic finish and parts interchangeability in the next year.

More info later as I get it.  ;)

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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2008, 06:57:51 AM »
Yeh!  :) :D ;D ;) :-* n DP
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 07:40:08 AM »
I am guessing higher prices too.
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 02:01:05 PM »
Thanks Quick n guys for the update. -g
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 03:23:24 PM »
Higher prices are here now.  Ultras are 299.99 around here, pallet wood is 249.99.  Can't remember what the thumb-holes are.  (CRS)  DP
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 04:48:36 PM »
So realistically, any new rifle on the shelves would be end production from the Gardner facility.  That explains some peaks and valleys of inventory.  They would rather move product out to distributors or direct sales, than pack it up & move to a new location.   Has anyone gotten straight answers as to whether stocks and specific barrels are available?  My contacts with Big Green have been very vague as to whats available.   Could we see increased value for pre-08 model Handis?   Winchester tried that with their model 70.  You can see where it got them.  I'm hoping that Remington can make some needed engineering updates, maybe even bring the triggers into the 20th century out of the door, instead of having to ship them back for a tweak that should have been done as OEM.  Has Remington indicated they will service triggers?   I have a .223 Ultra that has a 4 3/4 pound trigger pull, after it was sent in and repaired.   Maybe my letter of instructions wasn't clear enough.  1 out of 2 isn't bad.   Guess I'll have to dig back into the FAQs......again.
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 05:57:15 PM »
You guys should never complain about a NEF trigger, the trigger on my Savage 24 was so bad I thought there was a safety some place I could not find, no joke, it must have been 15 or 20 pounds!  I have it down to 4 or 5 now and think I have done great.  Larry
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 07:20:38 PM »
So realistically, any new rifle on the shelves would be end production from the Gardner facility.  That explains some peaks and valleys of inventory.  They would rather move product out to distributors or direct sales, than pack it up & move to a new location.   Has anyone gotten straight answers as to whether stocks and specific barrels are available?  My contacts with Big Green have been very vague as to whats available.   Could we see increased value for pre-08 model Handis?   Winchester tried that with their model 70.  You can see where it got them.  I'm hoping that Remington can make some needed engineering updates, maybe even bring the triggers into the 20th century out of the door, instead of having to ship them back for a tweak that should have been done as OEM.  Has Remington indicated they will service triggers?   I have a .223 Ultra that has a 4 3/4 pound trigger pull, after it was sent in and repaired.   Maybe my letter of instructions wasn't clear enough.  1 out of 2 isn't bad.   Guess I'll have to dig back into the FAQs......again.

Talked to a Remington Rep two days ago.  She told me no trigger jobs on Handis.

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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 07:45:28 PM »
Higher prices are here now.  Ultras are 299.99 around here, pallet wood is 249.99.  Can't remember what the thumb-holes are.  (CRS)  DP

Those prices sound good to me. Today I was pricing a 308 today (in N.California where I live)
and what I heard shocked me. A Ultra Lam was $365 and a plain handi was $320!
I've wanted to get a Handi for a while now and wow, have the prices gone up.
I guess I should just bite the bullet and get one, and then I can start getting on the barrel replacment program after they get squared away with the new move. -g
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2008, 10:35:06 PM »
A 223 Ultra Varmint was $350 in my local store recently. Regular Handis were selling for $300 last fall for deer calibers (44 Mag and 500 S&W). I bought a special run 44 Mag with synthetic stocks for $250 early last fall.
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 03:34:57 AM »
Our local Walmart had a .45-70 Handi for $225.00 just recently.
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 02:20:50 PM »
So realistically, any new rifle on the shelves would be end production from the Gardner facility.  That explains some peaks and valleys of inventory.  They would rather move product out to distributors or direct sales, than pack it up & move to a new location.   Has anyone gotten straight answers as to whether stocks and specific barrels are available?  My contacts with Big Green have been very vague as to whats available.   Could we see increased value for pre-08 model Handis?   Winchester tried that with their model 70.  You can see where it got them.  I'm hoping that Remington can make some needed engineering updates, maybe even bring the triggers into the 20th century out of the door, instead of having to ship them back for a tweak that should have been done as OEM.  Has Remington indicated they will service triggers?   I have a .223 Ultra that has a 4 3/4 pound trigger pull, after it was sent in and repaired.   Maybe my letter of instructions wasn't clear enough.  1 out of 2 isn't bad.   Guess I'll have to dig back into the FAQs......again.

Talked to a Remington Rep two days ago.  She told me no trigger jobs on Handis.

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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 03:12:44 PM »
The new Remington triggers are as good or better than anything on the market.
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2008, 03:15:01 PM »
The new Remington triggers are as good or better than anything on the market.
I heard that and the old triggers aren't bad but Rem used to adjust them back or charge you to replace it. Do they still do that with aftermarket and adjusted triggers?
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2008, 04:12:46 PM »
"Talked to a Remington Rep two days ago.  She told me no trigger jobs on Handis."
That kind of makes you wonder if that's strictly Remington policy, or they just don't know how to correct from the H&R perspective.  Remington obviously has the capability, as evidenced by their new trigger group; the previous version was pretty good out of the box.   But you're referencing a rifle that sells for 3X what the H&R single does (did).    At least H&R could fix them.   Now, apparently that capability for a factory repair/retrofix is no longer an option. 
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2008, 01:00:23 AM »
A Remington 700 with their new trigger group, sells for about $400.00 at Walmart.  That's only a little more than many places are asking for a Handi.  IMO Remington is the greatest gun company in the world.  They will improve the NEF line.  The sticker is the price.  If NEF products become much more expensive, people will stop buying them.
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2008, 04:19:53 AM »
Swampman, I agree with your statment. I think that if the price keeps going up on Handi's that there will be a decline in sales. NOW...If there are improvments that's been rumored here and also changing to a more streamlined drop in barrel fitting ( like TC) there going to have a winner. -g
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Re: NEF-Remington New Question
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2008, 12:06:25 PM »
A hammer with a low spur sure would be great.  Then we could use lower rings.
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