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Offline daddywpb

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broadheads/fieldpoints
« on: August 13, 2008, 02:24:31 PM »
Has anyone found a broadhead that shoots to the SAME point of aim as fieldpoints? They all say they do, but I've found that most DON'T.

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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 12:22:07 AM »
None of them do. The Rocket Steelhead 100 gr expanding I use are as close as I have found thus far from my setup. Been using them 3 or 4 seasons now and see no reason to change. They still put deer in the freezer and racks on the wall :)
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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 09:06:22 AM »
I'm shooting 100gr field tips for practice. My son used Rages last year and talked about how good they flew, so I bought some of the 3 bladed ones, along with a pack of the practice tips. These fly exactly like my field tips. Close enough that I've had to refletch a couple of shafts. I'm shooting a 50# Reflex and he(my youngun) is shooting a 70#Matthews. 

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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 10:54:10 AM »
I use the Wasp JakHammer SST and the Rocket SteelHead, which are pretty much the same head. Both of these fly jam up with my field tips. I have been shooting bows for a long time and have tried a lot of broadheads. Generally, if your bow does not shoot tips of the same weight to the same POA, then there are tuning issues. I can screw on a muzzy 3 blade and they shoot right with everything else. I have also tried the Montec G5 and they flew perfect. Sometime with fixed heads I have found that my bow was not was well tuned as I had believed before shooting. Ofcourse every bow and set up is different so some set ups just may not lend themselves to shooting differnet heads.

For the most part mechanical heads should be to the same POA as your field tips, if not then you may want to re-tune your bow and look at your arrow/popundage selection.

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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 04:46:01 AM »
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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 03:04:49 PM »
No, but the other way around yes.  I got the satellite match points and they shoot the same as my broadheads.  The only think that will change is if you get long distance and high winds but for practical hunting distance out to 40 yards they will be dead on.

The reason they work is because it spreads the 100 gr of the point over the 2-2 1/2 in just like a broadhead doses instead of a short 1/2 in like a field point and this makes the effects of that weight on the spine of the arrow the same.

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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 03:26:53 PM »
i got lucky and got cheap allen grizzly 125 grain broadheads and some cheap arrows and a freebie bow that shoot great my broadheads shoot the exact place as my field points out to 40 yards.

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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2008, 11:16:23 AM »
80% of the time it's going to be a tuning problem (or arrow spine selection) issue that is keeping your field points and broadheads hitting in a different place.

You may have to try 2 or 3 broadheads (and tune your broadheads!) to get ones that fly the way you want....but if you're properly tuned, they should all fly pretty darn close to the same.

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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2008, 02:52:09 PM »
I believe if your bow is truly tuned, they will shoot the same. Must have the same arrow length, spine, point weight, fletching, etc. I have 3 different broad heads that shoot the same as the field points. If you tune your broad heads towards your field points until they hit the same place, then move the sights. Move things in very small increments.
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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 05:59:31 PM »
I went through this recently with my first bow... It shot ok with field points... I never tuned it... I thought the guy at the store had me HOOKED UP.... Well it wasn't the broadheads were everywhere at 40 yards..... I did some reading...Tuned my rest to shoot a "bullet hole" and now im averaging about 4" with broadheads at 40 yards and smaller groups with field points.... I know thats not as good as some of you do but i'm still a rookie...

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Re: broadheads/fieldpoints
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 11:34:50 PM »
I believe if your bow is truly tuned, they will shoot the same. Must have the same arrow length, spine, point weight, fletching, etc. I have 3 different broad heads that shoot the same as the field points. If you tune your broad heads towards your field points until they hit the same place, then move the sights. Move things in very small increments.

Unless youR feild tips are as long as your broadhead then the 100grs of broad head is spread over 2 inches effecting the spine differently than if it is spread over a half inch.  This is why the match points will work.
What are you group sizes doing this?  I was given this advise when I first started and found that although point of aim was the same neither was in tune.  I personally feel that an in tune bow is more forgiving to twitching, jerking and other problems that are likely to occur in a high stress situation like hunting and being at full draw for longer than desired.  Secondly, although probably not enough to be significant a tuned arrow will be at max efficiency and will deliever more energy than a non tuned arrow ( this is for my own peace of mind I know it is a small amount).  At that time I tuned to my broadheads and set my sites.  I still practice with my Field tips but knew where they should be hitting.  Then after bow season I changed my set up back and retuned everthing to get ready for the tournaments again.
For instance not to long ago I was not having much luck getting things tuned and I was very close according to the paper but it was not forgiving.  I would call pulled on a shot and hit the edge of the bag or miss completely.  Now after discovering the problem my groups are a little tighter but the groups where not all bad before (as long as I did everything perfect they were around 2 inch groups) but what is nice is I can call pull at 40-50 yards and the arrow still hits with in an inch or 2 of where I wanted it to but if I do everything perfect all the arrows are touching (and that makes me happy).
I know it probably makes little difference because I have friends that don't know what tuning is that kill deer but it is peace of mind for me so I do it like I have OCD( which I probably do but no one has diagnosed it yet).