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Offline tikipirate

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« on: August 13, 2008, 03:57:57 PM »
What smokeless powder would you guys recommend to most closely match the performace of performance of black powder? Ive heard loading with pyrodex is an option but I was wondering if a smokeless is out there that gives similar volume and velocity?

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Re: 45-70
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2008, 04:19:59 PM »
Never used it personally, but I think Trail Boss might be what your after.
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Re: 45-70
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2008, 04:33:45 PM »
Check out Accurate XMP 5744 this may be what your looking for. Kurt
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Re: 45-70
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 05:00:39 PM »
TrailBoss if you're shooting cast bullets, but it's not for jacketed bullets.

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Re: 45-70
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 05:17:52 PM »
Wouldn't you want cast if you were trying to duplicate old BP loads? I thought jacketed loads wouldn't obdurate in the bore to take the rifling at BP pressures.
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Re: 45-70
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008, 05:34:35 PM »
Duplicating BP loads doesn't necessarily limit bullets to cast, it could mean BP velocities too.  This previous discussion comes to mind when Trailboss was mentioned.

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,147885.msg1098610371.html#msg1098610371

GMDR has a ton of low velocity smokeless cast bullet data.

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Re: 45-70
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 05:43:17 PM »
I have had good results with Trail Boss and 300 gr OT hard cast.

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Re: 45-70
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 03:59:37 AM »
Trailboss or Unique and filler.