Author Topic: Tell me about the Millet scopes (Read 1584 times)

Country Boy · « **on:** August 14, 2008, 06:41:26 AM »

I'm thinking of ordering one 1.5x6 with lighted crosshair for my new Ruger Hawkeye in .358 win. It will be for laste evening shooting at black bear. Needs to take hard knocks and be clear, will only shoot at 50 yds or less.
Anyother suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** August 14, 2008, 09:17:10 AM »

Millet scopes are just one more in a long line of off brand optics that will be gone in a few years and you'll never find service for it when you need it. I really don't like messing around with optics from folks who are not optics companies but just decide to get on the band wagon for awhile to see if it helps out their bottom line. Mostly it doesn't and they get out of the scope business after just a short few years only to leave the folks who trusted them and bought their optics holding the bag.

If like most scopes in that magnification line it is a straight tube with 20mm or so objective lens you'll not like it for your stated purpose. In spite of a lighted reticle or dot if the objective isn't large enough to let in adequate light you'll never see your target even if you do see your cross hair or dot.

Just get a standard scope with a 28-36 mm objective with a power range of 2-7 or so and forget all the do dads and add ons. Get a bold cross hair reticle and you'll need no more. As much as I personally dislike it the Bushnell firefly would do good for you as it is about the boldest cross hair ever made and if you can see your target you'll sure enough see that honking huge cross hair.

NONYA · « **Reply #2 on:** August 14, 2008, 03:57:49 PM »

I just bought a Millet LRS 1 for a .308 project(Ill post pics when I get it mounted) the glass quality is top notch and they offer some really nice option combos like 35 mm tubes and locking turrets with mil dot/bar reticles.Read up on them over on the LE sniper forums where they have first hand knowledge of their quality,they really like them.Check out their site and look through all their lines,I dont see them going anywhere soon,they have some really decent prices and they honor their warranty with repair or replacement.

jdwolf · « **Reply #3 on:** August 17, 2008, 11:39:55 AM »

My experience with the Millet LRS 1 is that it is an over priced piece of junk. The cheap Tasco scopes are better in my opinion.

NONYA · « **Reply #4 on:** August 17, 2008, 05:13:42 PM »

This coming from a guy with a chip on his shoulder and a serious ego problem,not to mention a forum admin with a censorship issue....real mature ...but then again you do admin a forum about cheap throw away midnight special thug guns so hey!I would imagine any scope mounte on one of those HIjunk carbines wouldnt help its accuracy problems so dont blame you problems on the scope.Lets see a pic of the LRS1 that you had ......................................................

jdwolf · « **Reply #5 on:** August 18, 2008, 10:25:59 AM »

Quote from: NONYA on August 17, 2008, 05:13:42 PM

This coming from a guy with a chip on his shoulder and a serious ego problem,not to mention a forum admin with a censorship issue....real mature ...but then again you do admin a forum about cheap throw away midnight special thug guns so hey!I would imagine any scope mounte on one of those HIjunk carbines wouldnt help its accuracy problems so dont blame you problems on the scope.Lets see a pic of the LRS1 that you had ......................................................

No chip on my shoulder friend. The Millet LRS 1 scope I had would not hold it's zero on my H&R 223 Handi rifle. I traded it in on a new Simmons Prohunter 6-18x40 SF. Now my Handi rifle is a tack driver at 100 yards and I dropped a coyote in his tracks at about 250 yards.

NONYA · « **Reply #6 on:** August 18, 2008, 06:07:56 PM »

On a handi...that explains everything..you mounted a $500 scope on a $100 rifle and the SCOPE wouldnt hold zero..right.Mounted my LRS1 on the new VTR tonight Ill post a range report after this weekend.

Brithunter · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2008, 12:51:22 AM »

Hmmmm this post seems very strange and whilst I know little about the other forums mentioned the comment by Nonya about a $500 scope on a $100 rifle struck me as very strange

it gives the impression that the scope should cost less or no more than the rifle it's fitted too

now for deerstalking here the advice given is spend the budget on a good scope and the change on the rifle being able to see the quarry clearly is paramount. Now by very carfeul shopping and some luck I have a fair few high quality scopes like Zeiss, Pecar, Khales, Lisenfeld and Meopta and also by careful shopping and again some lucky breaks now and then I have some nice old rifles some of which very little were paid for so by the idea of not spending more on a scope than the rifle some of my rifles would have to have plastic scopes

as I have several rifles that I have paid as little as £15 ($27:75 US) for them. Not all have been as cheap but not many have cost more than £300 ($555 US).

Now by buying used the most that I paid for any of them is around £90 ($166:50US) only once did I buy a new high quality scope especially for a rifle and that's a 6x42 Schmidt & Bender but luck chipped in again and a friend got me a brand new display model for trade price

oh the scope did cost less than the rifle as it's the most expensive rifle I own.

NONYA · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2008, 03:44:18 AM »

uhhh...ok.

jdwolf · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2008, 11:31:23 AM »

Quote from: NONYA on August 18, 2008, 06:07:56 PM

On a handi...that explains everything..you mounted a $500 scope on a $100 rifle and the SCOPE wouldnt hold zero..right.Mounted my LRS1 on the new VTR tonight Ill post a range report after this weekend.

I bought the LRS1 used for $125.00 and put it on a $270.00 H&R Handi Rifle. Do you not like H&R/NEF Handi Rifles either?

NONYA · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2008, 02:43:16 PM »

SO you supposedly bought a used LRS1 (just hit the market) and put it on a WAY overpriced handi?Any pics of this combo?

Brithunter · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2008, 02:49:39 PM »

Hmm not sure if this was addressed to me but personally I have no experieince with them. From what I see on the net I cannot fathom the interest in them to be truthful. A lot of folks seem to have problems with their accuracy and I have often wondered why bother?

The nearest thing I have to one is a Baikal MH18 in 222 rem. It's not the most accurate rifle shootign factory ammo into around MOA should do for some Roe Deer stalking in Scotland and they have recently changed the law to allow .22 centerfires to be used on Muntjac and Chinese Water Deer so I might try it out on them if I get the chance but in all honesty I will proably use something larger with a bolt action. Currently the Baikal has a crappy Tasco (Chinese one) on it to try out so I will need to put a better scope back on it possibly the Leupold M8 x4 Compact again? Oh the Baikal cost me all of £90 ($166:50 US).

jdwolf · « **Reply #12 on:** August 20, 2008, 01:13:19 PM »

Quote from: Brithunter on August 19, 2008, 02:49:39 PM

Hmm not sure if this was addressed to me but personally I have no experieince with them. From what I see on the net I cannot fathom the interest in them to be truthful. A lot of folks seem to have problems with their accuracy and I have often wondered why bother? The nearest thing I have to one is a Baikal MH18 in 222 rem. It's not the most accurate rifle shootign factory ammo into around MOA should do for some Roe Deer stalking in Scotland and they have recently changed the law to allow .22 centerfires to be used on Muntjac and Chinese Water Deer so I might try it out on them if I get the chance but in all honesty I will proably use something larger with a bolt action. Currently the Baikal has a crappy Tasco (Chinese one) on it to try out so I will need to put a better scope back on it possibly the Leupold M8 x4 Compact again? Oh the Baikal cost me all of £90 ($166:50 US).

If you don't like H&R/NEF rifles, don't buy them. I happen to like mine.

NONYA · « **Reply #13 on:** August 20, 2008, 05:36:57 PM »

Pics?

?.........

Brithunter · « **Reply #14 on:** August 20, 2008, 10:55:43 PM »

Quote from: jdwolf on August 20, 2008, 01:13:19 PM

Quote from: Brithunter on August 19, 2008, 02:49:39 PM
Hmm not sure if this was addressed to me but personally I have no experieince with them. From what I see on the net I cannot fathom the interest in them to be truthful. A lot of folks seem to have problems with their accuracy and I have often wondered why bother? The nearest thing I have to one is a Baikal MH18 in 222 rem. It's not the most accurate rifle shootign factory ammo into around MOA should do for some Roe Deer stalking in Scotland and they have recently changed the law to allow .22 centerfires to be used on Muntjac and Chinese Water Deer so I might try it out on them if I get the chance but in all honesty I will proably use something larger with a bolt action. Currently the Baikal has a crappy Tasco (Chinese one) on it to try out so I will need to put a better scope back on it possibly the Leupold M8 x4 Compact again? Oh the Baikal cost me all of £90 ($166:50 US).
If you don't like H&R/NEF rifles, don't buy them. I happen to like mine.

I have not brought any and very much doubt I ever will. They simply don't appeal visually and quite frankly I have better things to do than struggle with a mediocre quality cheap firearm trying to get some usable accuracy out of it. The Baikal MH18 whislt not a tack driver shoots factory ammo, ones that I have tried, to around MOA.

I did lighten the trigger pull and I re-shaped the wood to make it more pleasing and comfortable to me however it shot about as well even with the heavy trigger pull

although it was distracting to say the least. I did think about selling it but after some thought decided to get a take down shot gun hard case for it and keep it as a light travelling rifle and am thinking about fitting a .308 bore barrel to the action but that will require fabricating the breech and lumps to screw the barrel into and I have too busy with other things to have a real good look at it and exactly what it entails.

NONYA · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2008, 03:38:34 PM »

Got it zeroed today,the wind and rain was nonstop so I didnt get to shoot as long as I planned.The last group at 100 on paper was a ragged hole,good time to stop.Grouped well out to 300 and I didnt get to shoot any further.So far so good,Ill get out and do some ranging over the next couple weeks.

Brithunter · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2008, 09:38:10 PM »

Nonya,

That is a beautiful place in your photo

reminds me of Scotland

.

MGMorden · « **Reply #17 on:** August 22, 2008, 02:04:20 AM »

FWIW I own 3 Millet scopes - 2 Buck Silvers (3x9x40) and 1 Buck Gold (3x9x44). I bought all with a dealer discount from Midway (C&R license pays for itself at that one store

) so the Silvers cost around $70 and the Gold around $125 if I remember right.

They're OK. Not bad, not great either. I typically prefer the Silvers, as they are fixed focus and are clearer at most ranges I shoot at - the Gold is adjustable focus and I can never quite get it focused as clear as I'd like. The adjustable zoom on all of them are stiff - plan on working out your bicep if you want to move it. I ended up settling on just moving all three to 6x and leaving them there. With that out of the way though, they are relatively bright and do hold zero very well. All in all though, for the price I paid for them, I think for my next few scope purchases I'm gonna throw in a few more pennies and try out a Nikon.

NONYA · « **Reply #18 on:** August 22, 2008, 06:10:15 AM »

Throw in about 4 more $100 and try a LRS 1.That is my Grandmas ranch on the rockie mountain front Brit,it does look like Scotland till you get up in the real mountians.

Don-T · « **Reply #19 on:** October 15, 2008, 03:17:57 PM »

FWIW, I have the top of the line 6x24x56 with the 30mm tube and side parallax adjustment. It has nice bright optics and the side focus works well. It's huge, heavy and it won't hold zero on my Savage .223 varminter

. My Eraticators work better.

lonewolf5348 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 16, 2008, 11:39:53 AM »

I have a millet buck silver 3x9x40MM it been threw hell and back still works excellent
I have it mounted on a 54 and now on 50 cal. thunderhawk inline and went threw a few heavy charges of 120 grains of black powder and heavy conicals still works as good as any mid-range scope.
I must have it now about 6 years