Author Topic: Clip draw (Read 1196 times)

Mainspring · « **on:** July 30, 2003, 07:28:39 AM »

Anyone use one?

Mainspring · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2003, 04:50:29 AM »

BTT

Come on Savage...I know you have an opinion here. :lol:

CJ · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2003, 10:54:57 AM »

Had one on a S+W snubbie for a while and liked it. I dont want one on a Glock unless its empty chambered and that kills the whole idea for me. I like a holster that covers the trigger when its a light trigger with no manual safety, call me old fashioned.

JeffG · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2003, 12:26:39 PM »

I guess I'm of the "Apollo Stage Rocket" school here. The holster and the gun are meant to part company during the draw, as each has its own function....my two cents.

Savage · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2003, 04:31:29 PM »

Use um all the time. Wouldn't be without the ones I have: Glock 36 and the Kel tec P-11/P-32. The clips eliminate the bulk of a holster. I have no special safety concerns with this type of carry. The trigger is covered by my clothing and there is nothing in my pants that is going to trip the trigger.
Stay Safe,
Savage

Mainspring · « **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2003, 04:30:38 AM »

Outstanding. Thanks for the input guys.

KING · « **Reply #6 on:** August 05, 2003, 05:23:48 PM »

I would say that about 30 years ago,I used the same thing,but decided after a slight altercation when I was off duty,that it was just not the way to go. I now mostly just carry " in the pants",with the heavy belt holding it secure for a fast cross draw . Stay safe.........King

Mainspring · « **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2003, 05:09:59 AM »

:? I must be missing something King...how is a pistol just shoved in the waistband more secure than one shoved in the waistband with a ClipDraw holding it in place?

KING · « **Reply #8 on:** August 06, 2003, 06:28:50 AM »

Mainspring :-D

I wear a heavy belt on my pants,13/4 inches in width,and it is a snug fit. I simply put the firearm with the butt foreward facing my buckle,this give me a very rapid cross draw when driving,and also allows me to use either hand if the other is...occupied. I also have been know to place it in the small of my back with the butt facing in the upward position. I really dont like that position very much,but it works. I have carried a gun for over 32 yrs and I have never lost it,or had it come out with either of these positions. The belt tension will keep it in very well. The clip that you are talking about is nothing new. The were fairly popular over 30 years ago when they had them for revolvers like the snubbie models(chiefs specials). Several of the new guys have the clip on thier firearms and they were relieing(sp) on the clip to keep it in place. It not only slowed thier draw,but also failed to keep it as secure as the belt tension hold.. An important thing to remember,is simply this..if you can get to your weapon,so can the bad guy. Nothing is fool proof in any shape or form. I dont really think that you were missing anything in ref. to the clipdraw,but you have to remember,that many years of experiance has showed me that the way I carry is the best for me. You just have to keep consciouse of where and how the gun is positioned. Unless you are carring for a living,and your ability to get to that weapon is a matter of life or death,the position and speed of the draw of it is paramount. I also carry two guns as a matter of course. Hope it helps. :wink: :wink:

Savage · « **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2003, 07:20:44 AM »

Hey Guys,
A good sturdy belt is a must for carrying a gun in or on the waist. Even my dress belts come from a "cop shop" or western store. The ones you buy at deparpment stores just won't do. I like the Glock clip because it keeps the gun grip far enough above the waist to allow for the draw, and still conceals well. Like King, I frequently carry cross draw with mine. The clip insures the gun is always in the same position on the belt, but the belt tension actually holds the gun in against the body. I would never carry IWB without a good belt. I have seen guys lose their gun out the pants leg, lose them in car seats, and once in the wittness box in court! These events were only an embarassment, it could have been fatal!
Stay Safe,
Savage

Mainspring · « **Reply #10 on:** August 08, 2003, 04:43:10 AM »

Ok King, I see where you're coming from.

Thanks for the input.

KING · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2003, 06:41:22 AM »

Mainspring :shock:
I have to beat that concept into the rookies head all of the time,and they could not figure it out. A fast missed shot does nothing.....a controlled one on target does. Slow is fast.......................that is why practice makes perfect....outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! King

Arc Angel · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2003, 07:43:44 AM »

Hi, Fellas! Cannot believe that clip-draws and inside-the-belt, 'Felony Carries' are the right way to carry a Glock. Many years ago I got shot in the foot by a holstered gun worn by the guy standing next to me - It was an accident. Remember; 'Stuff happens!'

I thought long and hard before I broke an 18 year tradition and bought my first Glock. Now, I'm glad I did and wonder, 'Why' I waited so long to give in to the charms of an ugly, 'black plastic pistol.'

One of the things I, absolutely, decided to do was carry my new Glock inside of a smooth thermoplastic holster. Yes, I prefer an inside-the-pants holster, too; and I feel I was lucky to discover a standard Blade-Tech, left-hand, holster WITH A COVERED TRIGGER-GUARD and their new, 'Tek-Lok' device.

This set-up allows me to carry inside my pants on the RIGHT-HAND side. The gun never, 'patterns;' and the holster is sleek, clean, smooth, fast, and most importantly SAFE and comfortable.

As an additional benefit this rig goes on and off my belt, easily, in a matter of seconds; and, unlike every paddle holster I've tried, never draws with the gun! Hope this info helps you to keep all of your toes! Don't forget, it only takes one mistake.

Savage · « **Reply #13 on:** September 01, 2003, 09:22:50 AM »

AA,
I remember a few NDs myself. Those I wittnessed, and heard about, occurred with revolvers. That's about the time we went to approved holsters that covered the trigger guard. Stil there were NDs!! They occurred on the draw or when reholstering. Now there's a lesson here!! Make the equipment as safe as you can,-------------BUT the only way to prevent these NDs is to train properly! If you don't pull the trigger, it's not going to fire! I think King will agree that this is a training issue that is difficult to overcome due to budget/time constraints and the quality of the people you are trying to train. I appreciate the reduced bulk the Glock Clip carry gives me with my mdl 36. I maintain that a properly trained individual can carry safely in this manner. If an individual is not prepared to train properly, or just has reservations about this type of carry, then it is not for him. Hope your foot healed to a point where you can dance again!! :lol:
Stay Safe,
Savage

KING · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2003, 09:53:33 AM »

:-D Savage hit it right on the head. Training is paramount with a firearm. NG.yup.....had one guy holster his Glock with his finger in the trigger guard and on the trigger........Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. put a nice neat hole in the side of his combat boot. SOB did this after he booked a BG and wanted to blame it on the gun. No matter how hard you train there is always someone out there that" forgets",and does not do it enough for it to be second nature. If the department does not put enough into training,do yourself a favour,and get your own,and practice,practice..and more practice. We had more with revolvers than anything else. Had one of our instructors handed a loaded Mod 19 Smith. He unloaded it,and locked the cylinder back and pulled the trigger double action. Gun went bang and directly toward another officers stomache. What saved him,was a pane of bullet proof glass. He was less than five feet away. Again training is paramount to anything else.!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: