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Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« on: August 21, 2008, 10:36:09 AM »
I've never seen one, have you?   A bolt action military rifle from the early 1900s maybe?  I think they had some similarity to the Mannlicher Schoenauers with a split rear bridge.
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Re: Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 01:27:38 PM »
One of my all time dream rifles to do a complete sporting rebuild on!   :o  I even lust after the caliber - 6.5x54MS!  Almost got one once, many eons ago, but it was pretty pitted up for the price.  Haven't seen one since.  If I'm not mistaken, it was the M1903 or 05 or sumpin' like that.  It did have a split bridge which made mounting a scope problematic but imagine a classic European sporter built on one!
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Re: Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 02:48:38 PM »
Hi Guys,

    The Greek version had a straight bolt handle and yes was chambered for the classic 6.5x54MS cartridge. cases can be problematic gettignthem to re-load but it's not impossible. Now AtlLaw I suggest you grab a towel before perusing the photos of my project rifle:-


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This is just after the new Steyr made barrel in 6.5x54MS was fitted and the lot re-blacked hence no stock

   It needs a new stock to finish the job as the one that was on it when i brought it has been shortened for a child or small lady :-





  The action is pure commercial having the little bolt latch which the military ones did not have and with the two holes in the magazine plate I understand it's pre 1924.

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Re: Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 05:52:59 PM »
Now AtlLaw I suggest you grab a towel before perusing the photos of my project rifle:-

Ya know, when I was typing my response I just KNEW you were going to respond to this thread!  ;)
But I didn't know you could be so cruel...  :'(
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Re: Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 07:14:56 PM »
 :'( Life is not fair!

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Re: Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 09:25:01 PM »
Ahhh I could be even crueler and post photos of it's elder sister the mdl 1892 built up by Rigby's as a "Best Sporting rifle" which uses the rimmed version of the cartridge. The 6.5x53R often known as the Dutch/Romanian cartridge.

I always wanted a Schoenauer but they normally fetch more than my budget would allow then I saw this one on a stand at one of the Bisley shows. Although it had some issues we haggled and I brought it fairly cheap for the UK. It cost me £225 however upon shooting it I discovered that it wrecked the brass, case head seperations were common even on new RWS ammo  :'( I then discovered that the Re-lined bore had gone bad in the chamber area and it was this which was wrecking the cases. The re-line job was an old one with the muzzle marked :-

"Zero Liner ... F. Clarke"

    We never found out who F. Clarke was but it needed a new barrel which is normally very expensive here, so it was put up on commision sale but didn't sell then after a year or so I collected it and took it to Ron Wharton of Rigby's workshop to ask his opinion. He agreed to look it over and have a thunk on it to see what we could do to salvage it. Time passed then one day I got a call from Ron ................... would I like a brand new in the white Steyr made barrel in 6.5x54MS?

   Well you can imagine the answer  ;D the barrel cost £117:50 including postage to Ron's. Again time passed and Ron was too busy with the real work of building custom Rigby style rifles to get onto my fill in project so it was sent up to Lew Potter who removed the old barrel fitted the new one and got it proofed the re-blacked that little lot cost anopther £170 ish if I remember correctly so my cheap Schoenauer is no longer cheap but how many Schoenauer's do you know of with brand new barrels, original Steyr made barrel at that  ;). So now I have to gather the funds and get a nice stock for it. As it's not original and been messed with by previous owners I will stock it as a half stock sporting rifle with nice wood. My stock making skills are not up to the job so a stocker will have to be engaged to do the work and that's not cheap but the results wil be worth it. I have shot it on it's current stock and it even shoots the 120 grain bullets well  ;D those scope mounts are not the nicest looking so I am looking into replacing them with some AKAH or Apels, a little spendy but then we might as well finish it off well. I already have a nice Zeiss 4x32 rail mount scope set aside for it that I picked up on E-bay.


Ok I cannot resist beign cruel:-

















    I hope your key pad survives AtlLaw  :P.

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Re: Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2008, 06:24:31 AM »
I had an MCA a few years but it had a strange Monte Carlo look to it and an aluminum scope mount so I never could warm up to it.  Had a gold plated trigger mechanism-the whole double set trigger affair was plated.  I think I sold it for a bit more than $700.  The action was really slick - fastest bolt gun I ever used.
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Re: Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2008, 06:45:49 AM »
Ahhh I could be even crueler and post photos of it's elder sister the mdl 1892 built up by Rigby's as a "Best Sporting rifle"...
Ok I cannot resist beign cruel:- ...
I hope your key pad survives AtlLaw  :P.

You ain't just cruel, you downright MEAN SPIRITED!   >:(
Looks like I got to take me a trip to jolly old England and try a little bit of your limey butt on!!  Naw, to much effort for light work... My middle girl's husband is from London, and going back for his sister's wedding in a couple a months.  I'll have HIM stop by...   No, he'd probably take your side... never did like me much...  :-\

I guess I'll just have to put a MS on my got-to-have-before-I-die list.

I wonder where in the devil he found that barrel for your project rifle?   ???  which is exactly what I want BTW.   ;D

And that Rigby is a beautiful rifle!!  What I would give to find onelike either one of them!  Oh well, there's a gunshow tomorrow.    ;)
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Re: Greek Mannlicher Anyone?
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2008, 09:25:24 AM »
Ahhh AtlLaw ,

           I could be even worse and show the photos of the one I looked at for someone and which now resides in the US and has been used for Deer Hunting there. It might not have had the Rigby name on it but it had the rather desirable Full length Cape rib with the express sights set into it. I found it here and photographed it at a Bisley arms Fair:-

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/empiregs/myhomepage/business.html

I just looked and he has some Mannlichers on his sight for sale and he has already exported to the US so knows the ins and outs of doing so  ;) As for visiting that should not be a problem  ;) October covering the weekends of 19-19th and 25th-26th as on one of those weekend should be the Arms fair at Bisley and you could peruse quite a selection  ;D. I live about 4 hours away from Bisley.

  As to where Ron found the barrel I cannot remember but it was in the trade, I am not complaining. The old chap I used to stalk with has just had his Mannlicher GK re-barreled by Lother Walther, it was a 7x64 but is now a 7-08 then they had is grandsons done as well as they accuracy had dropped off. Walther duplicated the original barrels contour so from a distance the  work is not noticable.