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Are we headed toward another world war?????????
« on: August 21, 2008, 02:28:18 PM »
Have I been reading to much GBO? From what I am reading here our country (USA) is heading to the world war III. Do you guys really think we are headed that way? Do I need to go out and buy me a 308 in a simi auto to protect my family? Do I need to buy a few thousand rounds to feed it? Come on guys do you really think we are headed that way? I have more concerns over China than Russia at this time. Of course between the 2 of them they probably could take over the world. I would like some input here as to how our world is going to go in the next few months and years. Dale
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Re: Are we headed toward another world war?????????
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 02:45:00 PM »
If you don't already have proper Weapons and Ammo to arm and protect your family... your WAY behind. Something is coming, be it the financial collapse, the attack of Iran, or all out with Russia, Much is brewing and the natives are restless.... BE Prepared.

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 03:19:20 PM »
Just a year or two ago who would have guessed that poor decrepit Russia would be flexing it's muscle again. But if you read Bible prophicy correctly, it says that Russia will attack Israel in the end times. Doesn't seem so way out now does it? We are getting very close to the end as described there. Hal Linsey wrote "The Late Great Planet Earth" quite a few years ago, and his timeline may have been a bit off, but in my opinion it is still one of the best interpretations of Bible prophecy about the end times.

One Glareing thing in prophecy, no mention about the US of A. It is all about Israel and the area. How could Israel's major and nearly only ally in the world not be mentioned? You take it from there. 

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 03:41:25 PM »
Ok. Lets say our world broke out in war tomorrow. Their were Russians and China men landing on our soil. What simi auto rifle would you like to own most? I would think something in the 308 because of ease of getting ammo. The 223 does not have enough knock down power for me. The ak's are not accurate enough for me so I am thinking some kind of AR. Dale
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 04:13:36 PM »
Don't worry about it. It will be over before you ever know it started. .....Bright flash of light.....KERBOOM!!!!!!!

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 04:19:08 PM »
Well, Dale; I wouldn't expect a Russian or Chinese invasion scenario to take place.   But a simultanious nuclear attack on our port cities of Seattle, San Francisco, Houston, and Virginia Beach would be more likely.   Then, the scenario would be survival w/o electricity, Wal-Mart, and TexaCo.  If you have a house left, and you have food in it, your enemy might be your neighbors.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2008, 04:43:13 PM »
I personally believe it is bound to happen relatively soon.  The world is changing toward technology and the associated ills and civil restructuring depenedent on it, including major businesses.  This effects the politics of all nations indirectly.  All one needs to look at, is the lack of government or civil structure in Somalia since 1991 that has major piracy on our high seas.  Governments and shipping companies cannot tolerate this scenario for long.  Zimbabwe has major internal problems, along with Kenya, South Africa, and a host of other African nations, the middle East is rife with radicals not willing to compromise peacably, the far East is having major internal strife as well, and as for South America, there are several large countries with border and trade disputes.  Europe is caught in the middle of this with NATO and Soviet Pacts.  The world's drug cartels are under fire and firing back.  Mexico has areas of absolutely no true civil authority, except for the drug cartels and it is spilling over into the US along with a huge illegal immigration problem.  The whole world is either fighting internally or externally with someone or something.  When there is this much civil unrest, history has proved time and agian that a breaking point is reached and war begins.  I think this one will be a bad one too.  I don't know if anyone can survive for long once nuclear weapons are used en masse.  And that could, mark could, be a likely scenario.  I've already been prepared for as much as I can foresee within my means and suggest others do the same.  If war doesn't come about, then you'll be prepared for natural disaster for the short term.  Either way, one has the possibility of coming out of this alive with dignity.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2008, 05:04:40 PM »
What to get for home defense? Look out your window and decide.

I doubt there will be trouble with disciplined groups, at first anyhow.

Check this one for a plausible scenario:

www.giltweasel.com/stuff/LightsOut-Final.txt




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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2008, 05:20:26 PM »
Pretty simple question there Dale. Go buy an SKS or AK variant. That way it doesn't matter who attacks us as long as you keep killing the enemy you will always have ammo.

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I don't really think they would bother with VA Beach. If they attack the Hampton Roads region they have bigger fish to fry than Va Beach. Like Norfolk the largest naval base in the world. No body said the government was smart for putting all of our good ships in the same spot. Just Brilliant!

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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2008, 05:37:16 PM »
NavyLD quote: " Like Norfolk the largest naval base in the world."

Oh; I agree NLD, I just named a few that's actually on the hit list.   There are others such as NY, Boston, and good ole Chicago right in the center of things.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2008, 08:18:57 AM »
any of you people ever watched a TV Series called " Jerico"
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2008, 08:53:54 AM »
well dale billy want's a cook out so go out and get a gun. I would get a 223 I have a ak.

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2008, 01:25:25 PM »
  Now Navylawdog and Dale on another thread you bashed me for what I said. I also did a tour on the ground in the sandbox long ago, so I think I helped earn my right to speak. Now as for WW3 I hope it happens sooner and not later, we as in America are at the top. THis war and it is coming whether we like it or not, it needs to happen while we can win and win decisivly. There is no such thing as second place in a war. And I for one do not want to be on the losing side of this war. In WW3 there will probably be no winners but being a loser in it isn't an option. War is not pretty and war is not nice, it is killing people and destroying things.  I just hope when the time come we can kill enough and destroy enough to stop the evil forces that are plaging our world.  In the first gulf war we used total war tactics at the beginnig and decimated our enemy, I would guess  we killed 50 to 100 thousand Iraqi soldiers, They built static defences in the desert and our bomber totally demoralised them by the time we rolled through them. Many of them begged for surrender, but a few didn't they met a very gory and violent death. I'm not going to say WW3 will be a good thing, but it is coming and I hope it comes while we are the top dog and not he guy  that ends up in second place.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2008, 01:43:51 PM »
We probably have a couple of years if the leaders in the countries that would attack us have any sense at all. It will probably take Obama, Pelosi, and the rest of the democrats that long to gut the military like Slick Willie did and they should know it. All they have to do is wait a while if the federal government comes under total democratic control and we won't be able to whip Mexico.

All said tongue in cheek but probably true, unfortunately.

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2008, 01:54:10 PM »
A quote from Billy ~ " THis war and it is coming whether we like it or not, it needs to happen while we can win and win decisivly. "

Hey; Billy:   Have you considered that there may not be any winners in this next war?   Only survivors.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2008, 02:03:00 PM »
A quote from Billy ~ " THis war and it is coming whether we like it or not, it needs to happen while we can win and win decisivly. "

Hey; Billy:   Have you considered that there may not be any winners in this next war?   Only survivors.
Yea but Billy says he is pretty lucky and he thinks he will be a survivor. LOL.  Dale
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2008, 02:26:43 PM »
[[/quote]Yea but Billy says he is pretty lucky and he thinks he will be a survivor. LOL.  Dale
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If that be true then Billy would fit into this catagory ~ ~ ~:

Zec 8:23  Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2008, 02:33:35 PM »
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Yea but Billy says he is pretty lucky and he thinks he will be a survivor. LOL.  Dale
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If that be true then Billy would fit into this catagory ~ ~ ~:

Zec 8:23  Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
[/quote]This is why I can't read the Bible. The way it is worded makes no sense to me. Would you please try to put it in plain English so I and others can understand? Dale
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 02:59:34 PM »
  Now Navylawdog and Dale on another thread you bashed me for what I said. I also did a tour on the ground in the sandbox long ago, so I think I helped earn my right to speak. Now as for WW3 I hope it happens sooner and not later, we as in America are at the top. THis war and it is coming whether we like it or not, it needs to happen while we can win and win decisivly. There is no such thing as second place in a war. And I for one do not want to be on the losing side of this war. In WW3 there will probably be no winners but being a loser in it isn't an option. War is not pretty and war is not nice, it is killing people and destroying things.  I just hope when the time come we can kill enough and destroy enough to stop the evil forces that are plaging our world.  In the first gulf war we used total war tactics at the beginnig and decimated our enemy, I would guess  we killed 50 to 100 thousand Iraqi soldiers, They built static defences in the desert and our bomber totally demoralised them by the time we rolled through them. Many of them begged for surrender, but a few didn't they met a very gory and violent death. I'm not going to say WW3 will be a good thing, but it is coming and I hope it comes while we are the top dog and not he guy  that ends up in second place.

Billy,

I understand your reasoning and I have to agree with part of it. Yes it is going to happen. No doubt about that, but who is to say we are going to win? Right now we don't stand a chance in hell against several countries at once. We already know that we can't rely on NATO to help us. I mean we pretty much are NATO. Our Army is pathetic to say the least right now. We are sending sailors to Army training so they can go pound the ground too because nobody will join the Army. I am sorry that I incinuated that you weren't prior military and I of all people should know better than to assume such a thing but it baffles me how a vet could think like that. In case you haven't noticed war isn't like it was even in the early ninties. There is no just run in and roll over them. Now they are acting like civilians, dressing like them, and hiding amongst them. It takes a whole lot longer and kills alot more people. We just need to give our military a chance to regroup before we are all speaking russian or arabic or god knows what else.

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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 03:02:55 PM »
  But the war is coming whether we like it or not. Be ready! I'm sure glad I don't live in any of the larger Cities that will be targets, I'm only worried about the fallout. Yes I hope to be one of the survivors, the second place fellows will be dead! Does anyone here think the world can live in peace? I'm a realist, war if part of humanity, there has NEVER EVER been peace on earth. And when it comes to war I want to be on the winning side.

  Now lets say we all agree that a very big war is coming, should we wait until our enemies are strong or have it out with them while they are weak? Our enemies grow stronger and bolder every day, should we let the monster grow? Contrary to popular modern thinking war is not always bad, was the Revolutionary war bad? Anybody?

  If this peace thing really works I would like someone here to point out one moment in history where there was not a war going on.
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2008, 03:09:12 PM »
 But the war is coming whether we like it or not. Be ready! I'm sure glad I don't live in any of the larger Cities that will be targets, I'm only worried about the fallout. Yes I hope to be one of the survivors, the second place fellows will be dead! Does anyone here think the world can live in peace? I'm a realist, war if part of humanity, there has NEVER EVER been peace on earth. And when it comes to war I want to be on the winning side.

  Now lets say we all agree that a very big war is coming, should we wait until our enemies are strong or have it out with them while they are weak? Our enemies grow stronger and bolder every day, should we let the monster grow? Contrary to popular modern thinking war is not always bad, was the Revolutionary war bad? Anybody?

  If this peace thing really works I would like someone here to point out one moment in history where there was not a war going on.

Billy this post makes more sense than anything I have ever head come from you. Allthough I am still not ready to jump the gun. Dale
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2008, 03:11:34 PM »
 But the war is coming whether we like it or not. Be ready! I'm sure glad I don't live in any of the larger Cities that will be targets, I'm only worried about the fallout. Yes I hope to be one of the survivors, the second place fellows will be dead! Does anyone here think the world can live in peace? I'm a realist, war if part of humanity, there has NEVER EVER been peace on earth. And when it comes to war I want to be on the winning side.

  Now lets say we all agree that a very big war is coming, should we wait until our enemies are strong or have it out with them while they are weak? Our enemies grow stronger and bolder every day, should we let the monster grow? Contrary to popular modern thinking war is not always bad, was the Revolutionary war bad? Anybody?

  If this peace thing really works I would like someone here to point out one moment in history where there was not a war going on.


I agree with Dale it does make perfect sense. The only problem is I think that the enemy is taking your advice and trying to get to us while WE are weak and stretched thin not the other way around.

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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2008, 03:37:12 PM »
Dale quoted "This is why I can't read the Bible. The way it is worded makes no sense to me. Would you please try to put it in plain English so I and others can understand? Dale"

Dale; I can't find any commentary that will interpret this verse as I see it.    So I'm putting myself in a corner here.      I'm going to strip it down as simple as I can get it.......So, here goes.

At the end of this war, when God restores all things, men of every nation and language will desire to seek the knowlege and blessings of God by adhering to the ways of the Jew with whom God's Spirit will dwell.
   

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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2008, 03:49:58 PM »
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Are we headed toward another world war?????????

Hmmm... Yep, sure are, you betcha, better know it any day now...

and as to the gun to have... well I would be more concerned about how much it will take to get a fallout shelter built than the gun to buy... a few guns will surfice as long as you have a good supply of ammo but again should not be your first or even second item on your WWIII preparedness list...
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2008, 04:01:48 PM »
Dale quoted "This is why I can't read the Bible. The way it is worded makes no sense to me. Would you please try to put it in plain English so I and others can understand? Dale"

Dale; I can't find any commentary that will interpret this verse as I see it.    So I'm putting myself in a corner here.      I'm going to strip it down as simple as I can get it.......So, here goes.

At the end of this war, when God restores all things, men of every nation and language will desire to seek the knowlege and blessings of God by adhering to the ways of the Jew with whom God's Spirit will dwell.
   


Thank you for trying. I now see I am not the only one that has a hard time interrupting the Bible. Dale
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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2008, 04:27:03 PM »
as far not having a strong army this country has many well trained people I'm talking ex military. people that have the training and know how . most have at least one weapon.and alot have long range rifles that they can use well. are problem is keeping are guns not letting the antis get them.Evan the gangs in the big cities would be alot of help if anyone tried to invade.just my  dimes worth
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2008, 04:32:52 PM »
as far not having a strong army this country has many well trained people I'm talking ex military. people that have the training and know how . most have at least one weapon.and alot have long range rifles that they can use well. are problem is keeping are guns not letting the antis get them.Evan the gangs in the big cities would be alot of help if anyone tried to invade.just my  dimes worth
I have to agree with that. I read somewhere that there are enough guns in the USA for every man woman and child. I think that is one thing that would break down the race barrier for sure. Black white purple green we are all Americans and in time of need we would all pull together. Dale
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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2008, 04:49:16 PM »
  I'm thinking this war will not entail alot of boots on the ground, more like alot of fingers on the buttons. Invasion, I really dought it,  there will be very little left to invade. Anyone who has been to a place like say Saudi Arabia knows that it would take only a few hundred well placed cruise missiles to bring that country to thier very thirsty knees. I for one hope the US keeps working on missile defence systems and puts em in place all over. Ground troops are not going to be worth much in this next war, technology and the willingness to use every means within our arsenal to win.

  Both of my  children, Dustin 19 and Anna 17 are currently members of the Minnesota National Guard, they are to be deployed again in 2010. I am proud of my childrens courage to stand up for thier country and thier service to our land. I hope others will heed the call of freedom and stand up against tyranny in this world.
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2008, 04:56:24 PM »
  I'm thinking this war will not entail alot of boots on the ground, more like alot of fingers on the buttons. Invasion, I really dought it,  there will be very little left to invade. Anyone who has been to a place like say Saudi Arabia knows that it would take only a few hundred well placed cruise missiles to bring that country to thier very thirsty knees. I for one hope the US keeps working on missile defence systems and puts em in place all over. Ground troops are not going to be worth much in this next war, technology and the willingness to use every means within our arsenal to win.

  Both of my  children, Dustin 19 and Anna 17 are currently members of the Minnesota National Guard, they are to be deployed again in 2010. I am proud of my childrens courage to stand up for thier country and thier service to our land. I hope others will heed the call of freedom and stand up against tyranny in this world.
Billy please accept my apologies. I really should have never called you an ahole. I was just a little upset at the time. We are in this together. Dale
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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2008, 03:24:10 AM »
dont know about a big war  but i can give you my thoughts on America  i am basing most of this off some things Michael Smerconish said the other day while subbing for O'reilly or one of the radio guys
the population of the US has increased by a bit over 100 million in the last three decades
at the same time our infrastructure (roads,highways,water supply systems, sewage etc etc) has not been keeping up
add in the loss of manufacturing  add in the steady drumbeat of socialist/liberal propaganda (we should all have our fair share of the pie) directed at this huge increase in population (which in my opinion is made up to a large degree of people who belevie it is the govt's place to take care of them & their kids)  couple this with evidence that suggests that these people dont want to assimilate
inflation has once again reduced the size of the middle class   
health care is out of reach for many
we are actually confiscating peoples gun (new orleans  greensburg kansas)
i could go on but am kind of rambling now
what i see is an unstoppable slide into something that i cant describe for this once great country
special minorities competing for goodies
i think 35 years maybe 40 max & America will be somewhere i dont want to live anymore
i am 56 & was raised by the WWII generation  my dad went all the way across the pacific
i am truly pained to make these observation & dont know what to do
i dont feel i can vote for mccain  his stand on the illegal thing is shameful
of course obama isnt even a consideration  he is scary
i think i will be gone when it gets really stupid in this country but i worry for my kids
what i see happening from coast to coast is depressing to say the least
i hate to say it but i think it is too late
personally i think our elected representatives should be ashamed of themselves for their performance & ideas over the last 40 years
WWIII ?  could be  i hope not  jim
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