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H&R "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« on: August 25, 2008, 05:44:50 PM »
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While at my local gun shop in Drums, Pa.,  this past week end, I noticed that a HandiRifle in .35 Remington was available for, I think $240. I did not know that they were available in that caliber. The ad in my dealer's book didn't state if they came with iron sights or not, just "Mississippi Legal". I'm thinking of ordering one myself. Makes more ;) sense to ge one of these instead of the .38-55.  ;)

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2008, 06:01:29 PM »
Welcome. I hope you snapped that 35 Rem up in a hot second! -g
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Re: H&R "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2008, 07:06:46 PM »
Welcome! Unless it's something new that Remington has decided to offer, that would be nice, but they have never made it in 35 Remington or the Handiholics here wouldn't have to have their 357mags rechambered to 35 Rem as some of us have. The only other .35 they've made is the 35 Whelen and it was discontinued a couple years ago after being reintroduced, it was offered in 1996 in the form of an RMEF limited edition also.

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2008, 11:48:25 PM »
How  any guys are on the Internet yellow pages for DRUMS PA looking for that shoppe RIGHT NOW????

 I would, but the 38-55 last week and the 44 Shakari this week taps me for some time!!  ::) :o ;D

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2008, 04:17:17 AM »
Whoa!!! What a gun!!!...I have mine that I had Wayne rechamber for me from a .357 Mag barrel and I know that Quick has one also. Now it looks as if others may soon be able to partake of the .35 Rem Handi fun. It is a deer, moose, and black bear cartridge that kills all out of proportion to the paper stats, and it is easy on the shouldrer as well. A GREAT hunting caliber. I have a buddy in Maine that uses his favorite deer gun, a Marlin 336 in .35 Rem with 150 grain pointed bullets for coyotes with excellent results. He loads one in the chamber and one in the Mag and the coyotes don't even twitch after he touches one off....<><....:)
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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2008, 05:15:33 AM »
Thanks STUMPJMPR, I checked all of the usuall suspects last night, no one listed it, you'd think H&R would have it on their website, at least in the news box!! ::)

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2008, 05:55:53 AM »
I'm back! Taking a break. Contact
Dave at Dave's Gun Shop (570)788-5518 FAX (570)788-5624
Hours: Tues - Wed, Fri : 12 noon to 8 PM, Sat 10 AM - 6 PM
I have not seen one of these new HandiRifles. I only noticed it advertised in his dealers' catalog. Believe me, I was surprised when I saw it there. I asked him about it and he claims its' for real (unless its' a misprint)
Give him a call. He also sells on line on auctions, but I don't know his e-mail. Good Luck

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2008, 06:28:58 AM »
I'm thinking the .35 Remington will go the same way as the 35 Whelen & the 7.62X39.  Not enough shoulder to headspace on.
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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2008, 06:55:34 AM »
All i know about it is that I want one.... that same website is also listing the magnums that never went into production....It has the 7mm remington mag, 300 win mag, and a 338 remington magnum...

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2008, 07:54:29 AM »
"I'm thinking the .35 Remington will go the same way as the 35 Whelen & the 7.62X39.  Not enough shoulder to headspace on."

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I have Handi's in both a 26" barrelled .35 Whelen and a .35 Remington and they are great shooters with no problems with either of them...not enough shoulder to headspace on? What is that about? Next thing will be you don't like any rimless cartridges in Handis!!....<><.... ::)

Does this quote look familiar?- "I love NEF products, but I won't own a Handi in a rimless cartridge."

please lets keep an open mind here...I like rimmed cartridges as well but I also have rimless cartirdges in Handis that are great, 30-06, .35 Whelen, .223, .22-250, .280. 25-06, 7x57.....all fine guns and reliable shooters. Granted some have more shoulder area than others but they all work great for me, even the 35 Whelen and .35 Remington. 
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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2008, 08:25:42 AM »
Most of the problems that are posted here are with guns chambered for the rimless cartridges.

The .35 Whelen & the 7.62X39 were both dropped from production because they were nothing but trouble.  Maybe Remington will be able to fix the numerous headspacing issues with rimless cartridges.  T/C couldn't get the .35 Remington to work.

I'll stick with the rimmed cartridges.
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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2008, 09:02:57 AM »
My Handi 35 Whelen has never failed to fire with factory rounds, very accurate too...............

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2008, 09:27:56 AM »
There are some that work fine.  All are accurate, if you can get them to go bang.  I'm hoping Remington can fix the tolerance issues that cause them not to go bang.

The .225 Winchester, the .30-40 Krag, the .308 MX, the .307 Winchester, and the .356 Winchester are all cartridges that would work great in the Handi.  Too bad we'll never see them.  You have to wonder how the .35 Remington hangs in there.  It was a great cartridge for the gun that it was designed for.  Heck I wouldn't even mind having a bolt acton .35 Remington.  I wonder why it works well in the 336 Marlin but not in the T/C??????

I'm glad NEF is bringing it out in the Handi.  I'm hoping it works well.
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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2008, 09:45:38 AM »
All I can say is if Wayne can cut a 35 Remington chamber is a Handi barrel that works great as he did for MSP and I, there's no reason why H&R/Remington can't do it too!! For that matter, they should be able to do the 35 Whelen just as well, after all, their ammo was as much the problem as it was the fault of H&R!! ::)

As Swampman mentioned, even TC had problems with the 35 Remington....

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,149983.msg1098626315.html#msg1098626315

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2008, 10:16:26 AM »
I don't clam to be brightest light on the tree, so would some one explain to me why
the 35 rem. is so popular. what can it do better than some cartridge that is easier to find.
maybe i am missing some thing. ???
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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2008, 10:20:19 AM »
IMO it is equal to the .30-30.  I like it a lot....I'm still not sure why.
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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2008, 10:21:45 AM »
I don't clam to be brightest light on the tree, so would some one explain to me why
the 35 rem. is so popular. what can it do better than some cartridge that is easier to find.
maybe i am missing some thing. ???

The context is the MS primitive season which requires .35 cal or bigger, that precludes any of the mid range chamberings such as 30-06, 280, etc.

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2008, 10:46:49 AM »
OK!
i gotcha now, it just appeared to close to the 30-30 but if the rules call for 35 then it is the one,
i had even thought why not buy a 45/70. I have a 45/70 and have absolutely one reason for having
one other than i got a case of the wants and really do like shooting it. i guess every one
knows what the wants can do to a grown man. ;D
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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2008, 11:17:36 AM »
I thought the primitive weapon in Mississippi was the same as Louisiana.........a minimum of .38 caliber??? ???

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2008, 11:27:09 AM »
I thought the primitive weapon in Mississippi was the same as Louisiana.........a minimum of .38 caliber??? ???

Not this year, MS changed it to .35 cal min and allows other exposed hammer guns such as the Encore, LA is .38 cal min.....for now.

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2008, 11:34:47 AM »
Thanks for the info.  I imagine Louisiana will do the same in a year or so as lots of folks here are complaining that the Encore rifles were excluded.

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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2008, 12:00:10 PM »
They don't make Encores in .45-70?
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2008, 12:19:52 PM »
Yup, 45-70, 35 Whelen, 405Win, 416 Rigby, 375H&RH, probably more, but the cost an Encore barrel is about the same as a complete Handi, but as they say, smoke use em if ya got em!! :D

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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2008, 12:39:54 PM »
I aleady have a 1967 Marlin 336Rc in .35 Remington. It is a real shooter. No head space problems. Like MSP Ret said this morning, the .35 Rem. works better than it is suposed to, if you go by its' ballistics. The reason it is still popular is because it simply works for huntng.

By the way, Dave's Gun Shop says that the new .35 Handi's won't be available till mid September from his distributor. I would think that they are currently in production at Remington.

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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2008, 12:42:31 PM »
"smoke use em if ya got em!!"

Boy oh boy, does that bring back memories of boot camp, I even smoked then!!!....<><....:)

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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2008, 12:45:27 PM »
In La. the Encore is not legal. It still needs to be a firearm patened before 1900 or a replica of one. I am sure that that will change next year though.

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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2008, 01:23:11 PM »
There are some that work fine.  All are accurate, if you can get them to go bang.  I'm hoping Remington can fix the tolerance issues that cause them not to go bang.

The .225 Winchester, the .30-40 Krag, the .308 MX, the .307 Winchester, and the .356 Winchester are all cartridges that would work great in the Handi.  Too bad we'll never see them.  You have to wonder how the .35 Remington hangs in there.  It was a great cartridge for the gun that it was designed for.  Heck I wouldn't even mind having a bolt acton .35 Remington.  I wonder why it works well in the 336 Marlin but not in the T/C??????

I'm glad NEF is bringing it out in the Handi.  I'm hoping it works well.

I've got a 35 Remington barrel for my T/C and never had any problem with it.  Great cartridge as you can shoot pistol or rifle bullets depending on how much oomph you want for the job at hand.

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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2008, 01:37:44 PM »
Wonder what the twist is, 'cause I'm thinkin' .358 Winchester.


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Re: NEF "Mississippi Legal" .35 Remington HandiRifle
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2008, 04:39:43 PM »
Guys
I had a T/C Contender with a 16.25" 35 Rem barrel amongst others. 5 barrels in all. The 35 Rem I got to put a Rifle stock on, but could not get it to fire Large Rifle primers reliably, no matter the brand. Did this with factory loads too. So, I sold the gun and got a Marlin M1895G in .45-70 and never looked back!
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