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ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« on: August 26, 2008, 02:23:14 PM »
Its about time , they started this investagation some years ago and are just now acting on it , Feel sorry for the familes , I don't think so , they broke the law -- they should pay the price .

 


LAUREL, Miss. - The largest single-workplace immigration raid in U.S. history has caused panic among Hispanic families in this small southern Mississippi town, where federal agents rounded up nearly 600 plant workers suspected of being in the country illegally
 
One worker caught in Monday's sweep at the Howard Industries transformer plant said fellow workers applauded as immigrants were taken into custody. Federal officials said a tip from a union member prompted them to start investigating several years ago.

Fabiola Pena, 21, cradled her 2-year-old daughter as she described a chaotic scene at the plant as the raid began, followed by clapping.

"I was crying the whole time. I didn't know what to do," Pena said. "We didn't know what was happening because everyone started running. Some people thought it was a bomb but then we figured out it was immigration."

About 100 of the 595 detained workers were released for humanitarian reasons, many of them mothers who were fitted with electronic monitoring bracelets and allowed to go home to their children, officials said.

About 475 other workers were transferred to a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Jena, La. Nine who were under 18 were transferred to the custody of the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

John Foxworth, an attorney representing some of the immigrants, said eight appeared in federal court in Hattiesburg on Tuesday because they face criminal charges for allegedly using false Social Security and residency identification.

He said the raid was traumatic for families.

"There was no communication, an immediate loss of any kind of news and a lack of understanding of what's happening to their loved ones," he said. "A complete and utter feeling of helplessness."

The superintendent of the county school district said about half of approximately 160 Hispanic students were absent Tuesday.

Roberto Velez, pastor at Iglesia Cristiana Peniel, where an estimated 30 to 40 percent of the 200 parishioners were caught up in the raid, said parents were afraid immigration officials would take them.

"They didn't send their kids to school today," he said. "How scared is that?"

Those detained were from Brazil, El Salvador, Germany, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Panama, and Peru, said Barbara Gonzalez, an ICE spokeswoman.

Elizabeth Alegria, 26, a Mexican immigrant, was working at the plant Monday when ICE agents stormed in. When they found out she has two sons, ages 4 and 9, she was fitted with a bracelet and told to appear in federal court next month. Her husband, Andres, was not so lucky.

"I'm very traumatized because I don't know if they are going to let my husband go and when I will see him," Elizabeth Alegria said through a translator Tuesday as she returned to the Howard Industries parking lot to retrieve her sport utility vehicle.

"We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away," said Velez's son, Robert, youth pastor at the church. "It was like a horror story. They got handled like they were criminals."

Howard Industries is in Mississippi's Pine Belt region, known for commercial timber growth and chicken processing plants. The tech company produces dozens of products ranging from electrical transformers to medical supplies, according to its Web site.

Gonzalez said agents had executed search warrants at both the plant and the company headquarters in nearby Ellisville. She said no company executives had been detained, but this is an "ongoing investigation and yesterday's action was just the first part."

A woman at the Ellisville headquarters told The Associated Press on Tuesday that no one was available to answer questions.

In a statement to the Laurel Leader-Call newspaper, Howard Industries said the company "runs every check allowed to ascertain the immigration status of all applicants for its jobs."

"It is company policy that it hires only U.S. citizens and legal immigrants," the statement said.

Gov. Haley Barbour recently signed a law requiring Mississippi employers to use a U.S. Homeland Security system to check new workers' immigration status.

The law took effect July 1 for businesses with state contracts and takes effect Jan. 1 for other businesses. Mississippi lawmakers once used laptops made by Howard Industries, but it's not clear whether the company has current state contracts.

Under the law, a company found guilty of employing illegal immigrants could lose public contracts for three years and the right to do business in Mississippi for one year.

The law also makes it a felony for an illegal immigrant to accept a job in Mississippi. A message was left with the district attorney's office after hours seeking comment on whether he would use the law to bring state charges against Howard Industries or the workers.

The Mississippi raid is one of several nationwide in recent years.

On May 12, federal immigration officials swept into Agriprocessors, the nation's largest kosher meatpacking plant, in Iowa. Nearly 400 workers were detained and dozens of fraudulent permanent resident alien cards were seized from the plant's human resources department, according to court records. In December 2006, 1,297 were arrested at Swift meatpacking plants in Nebraska and five other states.

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Re: ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 02:58:46 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2008, 02:59:26 PM »
Horray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't even know how to spell it right but I am very happy. Dale
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Re: ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2008, 03:41:22 PM »
595 jobs that Americans should have. 595 stolen ID's. 595 law breakers. Hopefully, 595 deportees....
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2008, 04:27:17 PM »
Ship em out, I wish ICE would raid a couple of the food plants here in Watonwan county Minnesota. My brother is in Law enforcment here and he says they can't get ICE to pick up an Illegal immigrant unless they have committed a serious crime.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2008, 04:39:07 PM »
595 jobs that Americans should have. 595 stolen ID's. 595 law breakers. Hopefully, 595 deportees....

YEP. It's a good start. If they were all shipped out, and kept out, our unemployment rate would go down, wages up, a better economy. Billions saved in taxes spent on welfare. We would be better off, and we wouldn't be hearing YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOO all the time. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2008, 07:04:41 PM »
We'll be lucky if 25% get tossed out and fat chance keeping those from coming back , they can put a 8 year old on " THE LIST " so he has to jump through hoops to fly and see his Grand Mother but can't seem to keep 5000 a day from crossing the border .

We have the same problem here billy , the local Sheriff will catch them and turn them over to ICE just to have them working back at the same P&G plant in 2 weeks .

The Bleeding Hearts say don't break up the family -- FINE toss them ALL -- that way they can stay together .

I'm getting real tired of this Press 1 for ENGLISH BS just to make a bunch of $%#*&&%$# happy .

 
Come in the right way !

Learn to speak English !

And your more than Welcome here , anything else and your Axx needs to go away .

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Re: ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 02:49:43 AM »
Bush will punish ice for this.  ;D

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Re: ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2008, 03:09:21 AM »
595+ more jobs exported overseas.  All the related support jobs lost too.
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Re: ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2008, 03:13:45 AM »
I disagree, vehemently with the idea of immigrants coming in legally.  Our poopulation is over 300 million and we don't need any more.  That doesn't mean I want them here illegally either.  The idea that we can for ever be the dumping ground for the world is outdated and has been for decades.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2008, 03:34:10 AM »
What about talented teachers, athletes, doctors, & scientist?
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Re: ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2008, 04:07:01 AM »
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Thats's easy , just exchange them for the lazy assed crack dealers that do nothing but sell drugs and shoot up neighborhoods .  ;D at a 1 to 5 ratio , 1 good for 5 bad .  ;)

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Re: ICE nets almost 600 in one plant
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2008, 04:24:55 AM »
If ALL social programs were eliminated in this country, the problem would fix itself.

Hungry people will take crap jobs.  No crap jobs=s no undocumented workers.

Simple as pie and it saves the taxpayer's money.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2008, 04:30:50 AM »
I really don't have a problem with any one coming here LEGALLY . If we have any leadership in goverment with balls it would be easy to stop . No aide what so ever medical, food, schooling if you are not legal. combined with a $100,000 fine for each illegal worked you get caught employing. you get caught with 600 illegal workers $600,000,000 payable with in 7 days or we liquidate your company to get the money. if they could not work or get aid they would stay home
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2008, 06:31:29 AM »
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Thats's easy , just exchange them for the lazy assed crack dealers that do nothing but sell drugs and shoot up neighborhoods .   at a 1 to 5 ratio , 1 good for 5 bad . 

stimpy    Where do you think these dealer get there drugs from the Rich man. THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH ARE COUNTRY THE RICH MAN JUST GREEDY DOESN'T WANT TO SHARE THE WEALTH.

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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2008, 06:58:33 AM »
I really don't have a problem with any one coming here LEGALLY . If we have any leadership in goverment with balls it would be easy to stop . No aide what so ever medical, food, schooling if you are not legal. combined with a $100,000 fine for each illegal worked you get caught employing. you get caught with 600 illegal workers $600,000,000 payable with in 7 days or we liquidate your company to get the money. if they could not work or get aid they would stay home
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Agree. This would ensure no companies hire illegals and they would be forced to properlly vet each hire.this alone would put an end to th eflow/demand for illegals.

No one has the "Right" to come here illegally, steal someone's identity, anyones job and then raid our country of a the free services. Illegals do not support our economy, they drain it and cost incresed taxes on legals.
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 07:16:37 AM »
It's about time!  It's too bad that we can't round up all illegals and send them back, we don't have the resources.  Yeah, it's hard on the familiies, but that is the price that is paid when you flount the law and get caught.  Let's see what happens to the plant owners and management who knew what was going owhen they hired them!  They need jail time, not just fines, and the fines should be personal fines, not just company fines.

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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 07:49:27 AM »
Elizabeth Alegria who can't even speak English but drives a big SUV no doubt without a driver's license says:

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They got handled like they were criminals.

So what the hell does she think they are? Criminals is exactly what all of them are. That's exactly how they should be handled as that's what they are.


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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 09:19:35 AM »
Elizabeth Alegria who can't even speak English but drives a big SUV no doubt without a driver's license says:

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They got handled like they were criminals.

So what the hell does she think they are? Criminals is exactly what all of them are. That's exactly how they should be handled as that's what they are.

I'll second that 
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2008, 12:29:10 PM »
Yep, unfortunately, it's a drop in the bucket.

You want to come here you need to stand in line and wait your turn like a legal immigrant does, not sneak across the border in the middle of the night.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2008, 12:45:04 PM »
Stimpy, you have some good ideas.

I really have a problem with people referring to the illegals as "immigrants". To me, an immigrant is is someone who has gone thru the process to be here legally, not someone who snuck in the backdoor.

Read an article a few days about Mexico whining about what they were going to do about the ones we're sending back. They said they just don't have the resources to take care of them. They are citizens of Mexico, why do they think they should be our problem. Deal with it,Mexico.

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2008, 01:57:40 PM »
Stimpy, you have some good ideas.

I really have a problem with people referring to the illegals as "immigrants". To me, an immigrant is is someone who has gone thru the process to be here legally, not someone who snuck in the backdoor.

Read an article a few days about Mexico whining about what they were going to do about the ones we're sending back. They said they just don't have the resources to take care of them. They are citizens of Mexico, why do they think they should be our problem. Deal with it,Mexico.

The non-PC term is called "illegal alien". Your correct, there are only immigrants who are legal.

Mexico's government stinks. They apply a double standard on everything related to illegals. Someone who crosses into Mexico's southern boarder is subject to being shot on the spot. They criticize the USA for not taking better care of their citizens who are here illegallly in the USA. When asked to take back their illegals who are being deported, they claim they can't take care of them and criticize us for not keeping their unlawful people.

What a bunch of trash and the main stream media never points out the hypocrisy. The bottom line is Mexico simply thinks little of its own people and they want us to feel obligated to tak ecare of them.
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2008, 02:07:50 PM »
An undocumented worker can come to America, work 5 years, return to Mexico & retire for life.  Nothing will keep them out.  The cost to deport them is 200 billion+ dollars.  Employers who contribute big money to politicians want reliable labor.

The only way to stop them is to eliminate ALL socialism in the US.  As long as Americans draw government checks to do nothing they will not work crap jobs.
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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2008, 03:49:06 PM »
I even read somewhere back that the Mexican Government put out a book on how to immigrate to the USA. Dale
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2008, 05:26:09 PM »
I read about one in comic book format. I guess they wanted to help the ones that can't read get here too.

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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2008, 05:36:49 PM »
And the employer had no idea that they were illegal, Honest sheriff andy we had no idea, just because they couldn't speak english and all had the same drivers license and 20 had the same social security no. we had no reason to suspect they were illegal.
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