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Offline ironglow

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Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« on: August 27, 2008, 05:26:04 PM »
  Not very well, I am afraid..or not so many would be considering him as a "messiah"...

   Here's some info...

           www.americanissuesproject.org/             check out the video etc.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2008, 07:24:59 PM »
Ya, about as objective as moveon.org.... ::)

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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2008, 07:38:18 PM »
Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor responds:

The fact that John McCain dispatched his paid consultant to launch this despicable ad from a so-called ‘independent’ committee shows how desperate he is to change the subject from his shocking disconnect with the economic struggles of the American people. He knows that Barack Obama has denounced the detestable crimes that Bill Ayers committed 40 years ago.

Instead of invoking Paris, Britney and obscure '60s radicals, Sen. McCain should take the day off at one of his seven homes to consider whether his support for outsourcing, tax breaks for companies who ship jobs overseas and continued spending of $10 billion a month in Iraq is really putting "country first." To us, it sounds like just more of the same.

What is American Issues Project?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-hasen/is-the-american-issues-pr_b_121512.html

Do we REALLY know, Ironglow?
Do we REALLY know Ironglow?
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 01:18:34 AM »
  Dakota;
  Sure they are about as objective as  moveon.org  and the  huffingtonpost.com  !

   The question should be, Has Wm Ayers ever repented of founding the "Weathermen" and bombing the capitol building of the United States ? (He has not )
 
   Did BHO launch his political career at a fund raiser facilitated by Wm Ayers ? (he did)

  Did BHO make statements about what a fine man and citizen Wm Ayers is ? (he did) ..In my book, fine men & citizens don't run  mobs that bomb their nations capitol
   and murder policemen..

  Other related character questions;
       
    Who has as his "mentor" a radical , Communist "poet" ? (Frank Marshall)

    Who attended an Afro-centric "church" where hate is regularly preached ?

    Who attended a "church" during the time when that church gave a special "lifetime acheivement award" to the greatest Muslim proselytizer
         and hate preacher in America ? (remember "Calypso Louis" Farrakhan ?)

    Who has a convention chairperson that runs a church that demands "reparations" from the rest of us and shouts "THEY OWE US"...  (talking about you and me,
    although I never borrowed anything from them)

      ...And what ever happened to the demands of Democrats in 2004...that anyone who hopes to become president MUST have served in the military, AND in
  a combat situation ?
     Will you please list for us the military units BHO served with ? (Please list only American forces, foreign or Muslim irregulars don't count)
   
   BTW: Crusty; during the 2004 campaigns, did you question the seven to ten homes John Kerry has, especially the one in France where he spends MUCH time. ?
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 03:58:38 AM »
Let's be realistic.  We don't really know any of them -- candidates, politicians, generals, corporation executives, etc.  I suspect that most of us don't really know half of the people we work with every day or even the ones we worship with on Sunday.  That's why true friends, family, and a strong faith are vital to any degree of peace in our earthly journey.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 04:01:31 AM »
My problem with obama is.
with all i have heard about his childhood, how he was Raised, where he was raised, where
did the money come from to go to an Ivie league college, must have been one great attorney
to come up so fast. IMO their are lots of unanswered questions about this man that has said we need to send more aid to Africa, where he seems to spend lots of time, at costume parties.
If i am not mistaken McCain's wife has more money than most, income of $5mil a year, beer sells pretty good
maybe she bought those houses, but we should hold that against McCain
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 04:27:07 AM »
The only thing I need to know is that he thinks we cling to guns and religion because we are backward and afraid.  He's a democrat.  As a Christian, I can't vote for a democrat.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2008, 09:02:49 AM »
YEP HE'S JUST LIKE MMCAIN BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY BIG MONEY YOU GUYS ARE SICK THIRD PARTY.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2008, 09:22:28 AM »
You mean big money like the NRA?  There is no (and never will be a) 3rd party.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2008, 09:44:15 AM »
    Being neither Democrat or RepublicanI wouldn't mind third party..especially if it is a strong liberal one ! That would split the lib votes, handing
  the elections to conservatives, just as "third party" candidates do already, only on a grander scale ! :D
   I am a member of neither major party, being registered with the Conservative party..makes my party something like third or fourth party..does
   it not ? Don't forget the Liberal party also...So, we already have a third and a fourth party.

   Neither the Conservatives nor the Liberals (third & fourth parties) have made any great inroads into the overall political system..  Dreaming of
   any surging newcomer party is like "whistling in the wind" !
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2008, 09:57:00 AM »
i never hear much about his mother is she still living? and if so were is she. . as far as his wealth i would like to know that too. same as Jesse jackson where is his church /
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2008, 11:37:01 AM »
  Unlike Barack Hussein Obama, McCain's life is pretty much an open book ! One can trace his family history in America at least as far back as 3-5 generations
  of all loyal Americans, serving America. Yes, he has been divorced, but upon seeing his first wife interviewed it is clear that most all Obama supporters are
  much more bitter about that than is his former wife !
   There is no doubt about his love of country, his word being his bond and his obvious courage. No; he's not going to march into the Rep convention in
  a purple bordered white toga, nor will he wear a crown as BHO may do for his swooning fans. I doubt there will be a host of angels singing  great hosannas.
  That they will probably leave to the adulating Democrat, Barakite Abomanists.

   In case anyone is ignorant of the history of this "All-American"..just go to..     youtube.com.   then initiate a video search for..     John McCain: courageous service
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2008, 11:56:12 AM »
If he becomes president, this country turn into another South Africa.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2008, 12:06:50 PM »
   There is already talk from Democrats about " If Barack does not get elected, that will prove that America is a racist nation."

   As I see it, we are being warned that.." If we don't get our way, America better be prepared for riots !"

    So, what is OUR best strategy..cave in to the threats, or stand up against them and elect McCain ?
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2008, 12:19:28 PM »
  Well You are judged by the friends you keep. And Barrak Hussien Obama keeps some pretty scummy friends. I find ANYONE who supports him and his filthy baby murdering, gun grabbing socialist ideals to be beneath contempt.

  I cannot beleave anyone that supports the antigun candidates would post one a board like this. I understand that in America we have the right to free speach . (If you keep quiet less people know that you are a moron.)

  Now I do not see John Mc Cain as a great candidate, but that said I see if Barrack Hussien Obama gets elected this country in a civil war, or him being assassinated. But I am sure Hitlary will set up a "hit" to keep him from getting elected better than any Republican group will ever come up with.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2008, 12:36:10 PM »
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If he becomes president, this country turn into another South Africa.  THAT GOES FOR MMCAIN TOO.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2008, 01:13:43 PM »
Do your parents know you are playing on the computer instead of doing your homework?
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2008, 02:41:18 AM »
Do your parents know you are playing on the computer instead of doing your homework?  NO BUT YOUR WIFE DOES.
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2008, 03:18:50 AM »
All I can say about Obama is put a bow tie on him instead of the triditional tie he is wearing and ask yourself why in the hell is anyone listening to him!!!   Jim
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2008, 02:03:49 PM »
 jhm;


   Or like this....
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2008, 04:26:57 PM »
you never really know anyone. but in his case is he really american born? I think he has some real socialist ideas. He is a devoted gun grabber. I listened to his speech he is very good, ( know your enemy) but how is he going to pay for all those programs, save social security, universal health coverage for everyone, and cut taxes for 95% of americans? I'm just a dumb ole country boy but my math don't work like his.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2008, 06:39:54 PM »
Well....  Do we really know McCain?  As a POW, he was kept at a location when no torture was ever documented...  Yet, he contends he was brutalized.  Was he programed by his captors? ???  Will he get a phone call the first night in the White House triggering the Manchurian Candidate to destroy the country from within. ??? ??? 

Wow, that was fun!  Maybe I will beat this horse even after it's dead.  Heck, many of you folks like to repeat stuff just as stupid... ::)

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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2008, 06:58:47 PM »
Quote from: ironglow on August 28, 2008, 11:37:01 AM
   Yes, he has been divorced, but upon seeing his first wife interviewed it is clear that most all Obama supporters are
  much more bitter about that than is his former wife !
   

If one can't keep his wedding vows, why wouldn't anyone trust them with the Oath of Office?  McCain showed that promises made to God mean nothing to him.  Matthew 19:6 says, "Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
Matthew 19:9 tells us, "And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."

Sorry, but I have never knowingly voted for an adulterer.

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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2008, 07:41:17 PM »
Dakotaliberal, now you lie, you willingly voted for your hero Clinton.
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2008, 11:37:09 PM »
    Guys;
     We're in real trouble now !
     It is always a sign of desperation when liberals start quoting Scripture ! ;) :D ;D
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2008, 10:45:29 AM »
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Sorry, but I have never knowingly voted for an adulterer.

Jim

While I DO NOT believe that to be a truthful statement as I suspect you voted for slick willie let's take it at face value. You can't vote for an adulterer but have no problems voting for someone who wants to allow the premature death of millions of infants or who supports gay marriage.

You beez one of the problems with this country today.
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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2008, 10:50:46 AM »
Sorry, but I have never knowingly (or unknowingly) voted for a faux documented alien muslim.

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Re: Do we REALLY know Obama ?
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2008, 01:58:30 PM »
Swampy;
    Dittoes !
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