Did McCain Just Win the Election?

[Dee]

Please get back to the origianl discussion.  Can I get a Sarah for VP bumper sticker?

I don't know, but if you get one, get one for me too. To heck with McCain, vote Sarah.

[torpedoman]

no it is not won yet but this is a real big step in the right direction now if he'll only promise to croak early in his first term.

[Johnny Reb]

I'm pretty sure that I Timothy 2 is in refernce to a woman's role in the church, not in the world/politics. 

[Dee]

I'm pretty sure that I Timothy 2 is in refernce to a woman's role in the church, not in the world/politics. 

Johnny,1st Timothy 2 (he didn't define WHERE in Chapter 2) just happens to be the first thing that popped into the swamper's head. If he DEFINED what part of Chapter 2 he was talking about, then you would know immediately that he is as weird as he truly is. His use of scripture doesn't necessarily PERTAIN TO ANYTHING concerning this conversation.
He is some what trollish, and will take YOUR thoughts and claim them for his own, often repeating a quote from you, in such a manner, that he wants others to believe it is his.
He did so about 11 or 12 posts back on this forum. He is taking it from another thread, where he was repeating everything I said, while trying to argue a point. I pointed it out using three of my previous posts, and advised him to have an orginal thought. He has now took this comment of mine, for his own.

[Johnny Reb]

Thanks for the warning.  I'll remember that in future.

[lgm270]

It is impossible not to fall in love with Sarah, if for no other reason that she's a woman who is into guns and hunting....and who is attractive enough to wear skirts    instead of pant suits .

I can understand the groundswell of  support for her because of her honest, forthright presentation and the fact that she is a genuine authentic American heroine and not a phony empty  suit created by public relations professionals.

That being said, I don't trust the GOP.  First of all, their motto: "Country First." 

 Well said, but which Country? 

McCain has already flown to Israel to get his marching orders.  Although Palin  has not yet  reported for duty to  Tel Aviv, she has an Israeli flag in her office and has affirmed her "deep commitment" to Israel.  Israel has its own government.  Can't we have ours?  Can't Americans  have leaders loyal to us who are deeply committed to the American people, not to a foreign country half way around the world?

McCain is a fraud. He thinks millions of third world vermin should be able to walk across our borders and take our country away from us without firing a shot.  Mexicans have transformed  most of metropolitan Southern California into filthy, stinking Mexican slums. McCain calls Mexicans "God's Children."  Well what the Hell are we?  What are the rank and file Americans who are being dispossessed of our own country and  who can't even afford to own a house, much less to own so many that we can't even remember all of them, like McCain?

McQuisling will be the President. Not Palin.

Sarah is appealing  but I have voted GOP too many times just because the Democraps were so despicable. At one level I want to rally to the GOP, at another level I know that McCain is is a fraud. He will tell whatever lies suit him to win.  He will run the show.  Palin is window dressing. 
  

[Swampman]

Israel is the only reason America exist.  When we turn our back on her(and we will) all is lost.

"He will tell whatever lies suit him to win."

He's a politician isn't he?  That's what they do.

[deltecs]

Although Palin  has not yet  reported for duty to  Tel Aviv, she has an Israeli flag in her office and has affirmed her "deep commitment" to Israel.   

Just where did you get this info?  I don't recall ever seeing the Israeli flag in her office.

[lgm270]

Although Palin  has not yet  reported for duty to  Tel Aviv, she has an Israeli flag in her office and has affirmed her "deep commitment" to Israel.   

Just where did you get this info?  I don't recall ever seeing the Israeli flag in her office.

I saw photos all over the internet that show the Israeli flag in her office behind her. It's a small one, but it has been widely discussed actually.  After she received the nomination she received an extensive "briefing" from AIPAC, the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

AIPAC is a very wealthy, powerful Jewish lobby that lobbies the government for Israel. 

WHO LOBBIES THE GOVERNMENT FOR COMMON, EVERY DAY RANK AND FILE AMERICANS? l

[deltecs]

Although Palin  has not yet  reported for duty to  Tel Aviv, she has an Israeli flag in her office and has affirmed her "deep commitment" to Israel.   

Just where did you get this info?  I don't recall ever seeing the Israeli flag in her office.

I saw photos all over the internet that show the Israeli flag in her office behind her. It's a small one, but it has been widely discussed actually.  After she received the nomination she received an extensive "briefing" from AIPAC, the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

AIPAC is a very wealthy, powerful Jewish lobby that lobbies the government for Israel. 

WHO LOBBIES THE GOVERNMENT FOR COMMON, EVERY DAY RANK AND FILE AMERICANS? l

Oh, I can think of hundreds, though you may not like them.  AFL/CIO, NRA, GAO, NAACP, Chamber of Commerce, Oil Petroleum Institute, Greenpeace, American Civil Liberties Union, Isaac Walton League, League of Women Voters, HCI, American Realtors Association, National Federation of Police Officers Association, AARP, etc and hundreds more.  That is reason we have so many problems, too many lobbyists telling government contradictory needs and wants, in which someone else is denied privacy and individual rights. 

[phalanx]

Guys my wife has worked for and with Sarah Palin ,i was talking about her on another site 3 years ago.
Trust me she not going to be anyone's show girl , America has not seen her get serious yet and i am sure she has been told to go easy right now.
Pit Bull ,Barracuda ,Palin the impaler she didn't get these names being June Cleaver.
Sarah has a habit of whoever she is about to meet with of putting a flag from their state or country in her office.
When Hillary was in Alaska Palin invited her to come chat ,Hillary dodged Palin like the plague ,and is terrified of Sarah.
Look how Hillary acts when the name Palin comes up , and i believe McCain has met someone who WILL end up telling even him what to do.
I think both party's fear her ,they know that she can be as ruthless as Putin ,and they don't want to lose their phony baloney jobs.
The Clinton's know this , And Putin has to be smiling about the entire thing , He only respects Leaders and Bush showed him that Bush is full of it . Even Putin told Bush( Do not lecture me about how the security of your country is the motivation behind what you are doing around the world. Save those lies for your own people and not for the people of Russia !! You barely attempt to control your own southern Border ,and you stay in League with Mexican Dictators and Thugs at the expense of your own People and their safety. I want no part of your Globalist Agenda , You have gambled the faith the American People have put in you ,and you were elected to protect them not Mexico . It seems like you are trying to make the life styles and culture of your own Country, that of an inbred ,ignorant ,corrupt Dictatorship South of you , with total disregard for being the sworn Leader and Man even i once thought you were ) .
Did you see Putin putting his finger in the face of Bush in Beijing ? We never heard what he said here , but the reporters of other Country's sure did.
There is a book out written by an American about Putin , When we see Russia acting like the old USSR , it is because Putin does not trust Bush , and believes Bush is part of something to bring the standard of living in America down to a level that when the people are needing help , They will do exactly what they are told.
Putin likes leaders , not BS artist Dancing to another cause while lieing out there teeth.
In this book , at first Bush and Putin got along great , at the Bush Ranch in Crawford Texas the Author says that one night Putin and Bush talked until late at night . Five Months ago i posted here that Bush had a late night meeting with the heads of Congress ,and Home Land Security. He talked about an Economic catastrophe in September and asked HLS if they could handle Americans with guns who may not follow instructions . HELLO , this story came out on Radio Moscow and everyone blew it off.
The staff were bringing them Coffee on and off ,then they heard Putin get angry , The translator could barely keep up, but Putin asked Bush ( Are you Crazy ?? Who else is in on this ??  No ,No, i will be leaving in the Morning , Russia is a Sovereign Nation , and we will have nothing to do with this ,Good Night Sir )......

[jcn59]

SO!  What do you think of the rumor that Biden will bow out for health reasons (his 2 aneurysms 10 years ago) and have Hilary take the VP candidacy   Huh?  Huh?

[Mike Britton]

Do you think Hilary would take the VP after Obamama basically told the world he didn't think she was fit, or qualified for the office?

[jcn59]

No question about it.  She's a political whore.  If she gets a chance, she'll go for it. 

It's a good question but it arises from the assumption that these people are human.  They are not.  Our hunting dogs have more pride than politicians.  The most recent example of a subhuman is that Idaho senator who was playing queer footsie with a man in a Minnesota restroom.

Here's a thought question:  Would YOU leave a good life in Alaska to be the VP in the rectum of the free world (D.C.)?  If Palin was a real person, she wouldn't even consider it.  Nonetheless, she gets my vote no matter who is on the ticket with her.

[lgm270]

Although Palin  has not yet  reported for duty to  Tel Aviv, she has an Israeli flag in her office and has affirmed her "deep commitment" to Israel.   

Just where did you get this info?  I don't recall ever seeing the Israeli flag in her office.

I saw photos all over the internet that show the Israeli flag in her office behind her. It's a small one, but it has been widely discussed actually.  After she received the nomination she received an extensive "briefing" from AIPAC, the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

AIPAC is a very wealthy, powerful Jewish lobby that lobbies the government for Israel. 

WHO LOBBIES THE GOVERNMENT FOR COMMON, EVERY DAY RANK AND FILE AMERICANS? l

Oh, I can think of hundreds, though you may not like them.  AFL/CIO, NRA, GAO, NAACP, Chamber of Commerce, Oil Petroleum Institute, Greenpeace, American Civil Liberties Union, Isaac Walton League, League of Women Voters, HCI, American Realtors Association, National Federation of Police Officers Association, AARP, etc and hundreds more.  That is reason we have so many problems, too many lobbyists telling government contradictory needs and wants, in which someone else is denied privacy and individual rights. 

You think these groups represent "rank and file" Americans?  I don't think so.

The ACLU represents elitest millionaires in their goal of destroying freedom of choice and freedom of speech (except for pornographers).

The NAACP is a racist organization that represents the separate and distinct racial interests of Blacks, who make up 13% of the US population.

The AFL/CIO represents a dwindling number of organized laborers and is  strong supporter of the Mexican invasion of the US because they think Mexicans are potential union members.

The Chamber of Commerce also argues for the Mexican, third world invasion of the US, so that wage rates and cost of labor will be reduced for employers, and Americans will be screwed out of  jobs that will be given to Mexicans and other third world invaders.

As for the Oil Petroleum Institute, I never heard of it and I have no idea who it represents. Certainly not me.

The NRA has several million members and crosses all party lines.  It's fundamentally a civil rights organization supporting second amendment rights for all people, regardless of race, unlike the racist NAACP which is based on asserting the rights of Blacks, who make up  13% of  the US population.

I never heard of the Isaac Walton League.

As far as the Realtors and Police organizations, they're dedicated to looking out for their professional members. 

When I say rank and file Americans, I mean Americans who believe that America has a "Right to exist" and that the primary obligation of the US Government is to represent the interests and well being of Americans, not Israelis and not Mexicans.  John McCain always refers to invading Mexican hordes as "God's children."  What the Hell does he think we are?

If you want to perform an interesting experiment,  go to a public town hall meeting and ask a candidate for public office or a public official if he /she believes the jewish state of Israel has a "Right to exist."  Like trained seals, or Pavlov dogs,  they will bark out  "Yes. Of course." 

Then ask this question,  "Does the United States of America have a right to exist?"  I have done this.  They always  kind of flinch or have some other physical reaction. Then they pause and think about it.  After an awkward moment, they say things like:
 
      "Huh?"  

      "Gee, nobody ever asked me that before." 

      "Gee, I never really thought about it."

      "Well that's kind of a trick question, isn't it?"  

 

[SHOOTALL]

who's PALIN running with ?

[deltecs]

Although Palin  has not yet  reported for duty to  Tel Aviv, she has an Israeli flag in her office and has affirmed her "deep commitment" to Israel.   

Just where did you get this info?  I don't recall ever seeing the Israeli flag in her office.

I saw photos all over the internet that show the Israeli flag in her office behind her. It's a small one, but it has been widely discussed actually.  After she received the nomination she received an extensive "briefing" from AIPAC, the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

AIPAC is a very wealthy, powerful Jewish lobby that lobbies the government for Israel. 

WHO LOBBIES THE GOVERNMENT FOR COMMON, EVERY DAY RANK AND FILE AMERICANS? l

Oh, I can think of hundreds, though you may not like them.  AFL/CIO, NRA, GAO, NAACP, Chamber of Commerce, Oil Petroleum Institute, Greenpeace, American Civil Liberties Union, Isaac Walton League, League of Women Voters, HCI, American Realtors Association, National Federation of Police Officers Association, AARP, etc and hundreds more.  That is reason we have so many problems, too many lobbyists telling government contradictory needs and wants, in which someone else is denied privacy and individual rights. 

You think these groups represent "rank and file" Americans?  I don't think so.

The ACLU represents elitest millionaires in their goal of destroying freedom of choice and freedom of speech (except for pornographers).

The NAACP is a racist organization that represents the separate and distinct racial interests of Blacks, who make up 13% of the US population.

The AFL/CIO represents a dwindling number of organized laborers and is  strong supporter of the Mexican invasion of the US because they think Mexicans are potential union members.

The Chamber of Commerce also argues for the Mexican, third world invasion of the US, so that wage rates and cost of labor will be reduced for employers, and Americans will be screwed out of  jobs that will be given to Mexicans and other third world invaders.

As for the Oil Petroleum Institute, I never heard of it and I have no idea who it represents. Certainly not me.

The NRA has several million members and crosses all party lines.  It's fundamentally a civil rights organization supporting second amendment rights for all people, regardless of race, unlike the racist NAACP which is based on asserting the rights of Blacks, who make up  13% of  the US population.

I never heard of the Isaac Walton League.

As far as the Realtors and Police organizations, they're dedicated to looking out for their professional members. 

When I say rank and file Americans, I mean Americans who believe that America has a "Right to exist" and that the primary obligation of the US Government is to represent the interests and well being of Americans, not Israelis and not Mexicans.  John McCain always refers to invading Mexican hordes as "God's children."  What the Hell does he think we are?

If you want to perform an interesting experiment,  go to a public town hall meeting and ask a candidate for public office or a public official if he /she believes the jewish state of Israel has a "Right to exist."  Like trained seals, or Pavlov dogs,  they will bark out  "Yes. Of course." 

Then ask this question,  "Does the United States of America have a right to exist?"  I have done this.  They always  kind of flinch or have some other physical reaction. Then they pause and think about it.  After an awkward moment, they say things like:
 
      "Huh?"  

      "Gee, nobody ever asked me that before." 

      "Gee, I never really thought about it."

      "Well that's kind of a trick question, isn't it?"  

 

For your information, these organizations are all special interest groups that represent Americans.  Americans are extremely diverse in ethnic, religion, philosophy, race, society, ethics, and work.  So, each group represents a major sector of those "WHO LOBBIES THE GOVERNMENT FOR COMMON, EVERY DAY RANK AND FILE AMERICANS?"  The lobby you are referring to is our elected representatives.  Remember who are the people who voted them in office.  Educated idiots, committed reformists, radicals, and elitists.  These are the same people who would turn governments into socialism for the sake of fellow man.  There is no common, every day rank and file Americans.  We cannot even agree on this site with our committment to keep, maintain, and uphold the 2nd Amendment without major conflict with some members.  You can ask that question to thousands of people and get substantially different answers from different areas of the country.  Ask that question in LA and you will get a socialist point of view.  Ask that question in rural Alaska and you'll get a different point of view, ask that question of native Indians in the Dakota's and you'll get a different point of view, ask that question in SC and you'll get a different point of view.  Just where in hell are you going to find a common, every day, rank and file American.  I just happen to agree with you on the point that not only does America have the right to exist, it has the right to exist to choose its elected officials.  In this case and year, I hope it will be McCain/Palin because they are the only candidates with a chance of winning and maybe in the process, change some government policies and judges back to constructionist principles.

[jcn59]

er.....OVER HERE!    I'm one of those "common, everyday, Americans".

AND DON'T TRY TO TELL ME I'M NOT!

[deltecs]

er.....OVER HERE!    I'm one of those "common, everyday, Americans".

AND DON'T TRY TO TELL ME I'M NOT!

I'm not trying to tell you that you are not one.  I feel that I too am one, but as to common every day American, so can Obama say the same.  So can Palin and McCain.  Name anyone who would say that they are not.

[jcn59]

I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR THE SILENT MINORITY OF "every day" AMERICANS.  NOT PICKING A FIGHT WITH ANYONE.


But Obama is not one.

[SHOOTALL]

get 3 please

[deltecs]

Although Palin  has not yet  reported for duty to  Tel Aviv, she has an Israeli flag in her office and has affirmed her "deep commitment" to Israel.   

Just where did you get this info?  I don't recall ever seeing the Israeli flag in her office.

I saw photos all over the internet that show the Israeli flag in her office behind her. It's a small one, but it has been widely discussed actually.  After she received the nomination she received an extensive "briefing" from AIPAC, the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

AIPAC is a very wealthy, powerful Jewish lobby that lobbies the government for Israel. 

WHO LOBBIES THE GOVERNMENT FOR COMMON, EVERY DAY RANK AND FILE AMERICANS? l

I'm not attempting to create any conflict here, but to show the posters that the Dems are really worried about Palin.  The quote below argues that Palin is anti Jewish and anti Black.  The lies by Dems regarding Palin is absolutely unbelievable in light of here marriage to a part Native minority.  If this presidential contest isn't about race and religion, I've never seen one.  And it is the Obama campaign that repeatly say it isn't.

Democratic Congressman Warns Jews, Blacks to Beware of Palin
by Stephen Clark
Thursday, September 25, 2008
 

Florida Rep. Alcee Hastings on Wednesday warned two minority groups to beware of Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”

Hastings, who is black and a Democrat, made the comment in Florida at a panel discussion hosted by the National Jewish Democratic Council. The group recently criticized Palin’s invitation to an anti-Iran rally held during Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinajad’s visit to New York to speak before the U.N. General Assembly.

Hastings was explaining what he intended to tell his Jewish constituents about the presidential race.

“If Sarah Palin isn’t enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention,” Hastings told the audience, which burst into laughter and applause, according to individuals present.

Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella declined to comment. The Republican Jewish Coalition strongly condemned Hastings’ statements.

“Rep. Hastings stooped to the worst kind of divisive politics yesterday,” RJC Executive Director Matt Brooks said in a written statement. “Hastings’ unconscionable remarks do nothing but sow seeds of fear and divide people. There should be no place in our country for this sort of political discourse. We can constructively disagree on the issues without denigrating others.”

Other members of the panel were Tennessee Rep. Steve Cohen, who is Jewish and represents a mostly black district; Alabama congressman Artur Davis, who is black; and Peter Edelman, a law professor at Georgetown University who was a legislative assistant to Robert Kennedy.

Davis denounced Hastings’ comments.

“Alcee Hastings is a friend and I know Alcee well enough to know that he uses provocative humor to make a point. In this instance, however, I didn’t like his comments when I heard them and they don’t sound any better reading them in print,” he said in a written statement sent to FOXNews.com.

“I have repeatedly said that while Sarah Palin’s ideology and her thin resume are legitimate issues, it is a great mistake for Democrats to ridicule her cultural roots,” Davis added. “I don’t know how many Americans strip moose, but a lot of the ones I know tote guns and the Democratic Party had better win enough of those gun toters if we are to be successful.”

Hastings, a former federal judge, was impeached and removed from the bench in 1989 for perjury and corruption. Elected to Congress in 1992, he supported Hillary Clinton during the primaries until she conceded the race.

Historically, Jews have overwhelmingly voted Democratic, but the McCain campaign is vigorously courting that constituency as Obama has fought off false Internet rumors that he is a Muslim with an anti-Jewish agenda.

Obama also came under fire in April for describing small-town Americans during a closed San Francisco fundraiser as people who are “bitter” over job losses and who “cling to their guns and religion.”

Hastings’ office and the Obama campaign did not immediately respond for this story.

Imagine the opinions and belief of these men to be credible, when one was impeached from federal judgeship, another is race oriented, and the rest of them just repeating Democratic criticism without justification in order to discredit her experience.  It is voters in these idiots constituency that elected them to the party in control of Congress and we wonder why America is in trouble.  This would be reason enough for me to vote against Democratic party policies.