Most of you are more experienced with these than I am, although I had an original one in Nam, in '68'. Lately I've studied, shopped, looked at the gun shows, and it's pretty much preference, as some on here have mentioned. My decision ended with the new Charles Daly. Why? Probably because it hasn't been out long enough to get any negative feedback, because all I've heard is good reports. I didn't know it at the time, but it is made in the U.S. using the DoubleStar Lowers, and depending on which build,(Wilson Barrels). And these guns are the blackest of all the black guns I've seen.