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Hoss Power vs Firepower on Rooters :?:
« on: December 15, 2002, 12:04:11 PM »
I'm just a settin here, thinkin on murderin pigs :lol:

Now we have a choice of blowin a gapin hole in em with a bigbore like the 444, or the 45-70.  Hmmmmm, that's proved fearsome effective.

Or, could slide in with sumptin like the BLR 308 and empty a couple a clips in em.

Which way to go?  Share your thoughts and experience.  Rip em up, or, Fill em up?

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2002, 03:06:02 AM »
Are you talking about one pig, or shooting into a pack of em to see how many you get?   For me, it's one shot, one kill that excites me.  I've never been fond of unloading and waiting till the smoke clears to see what I hit.  I prefer one well placed shot with which ever firearm I've decided to carry that day, handgun or longgun.  

Now one time I did pop one young boar with the Taurus .44 and the round went through his neck and hit a pig behind him in the head and they both went down at the same time.  Never happened before or since then.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2002, 03:16:01 AM »
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Yah but, what happens when yopu light em up and they DON't die for ya like ya want?  That kinda was my point.  Once you pull the trigger you made a commitment, now ya gotta finish the job.  Onlyest way I know of to do that is keep shootin till nothin is movin :lol:

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2002, 04:33:26 AM »
Coug,

This year I decided to take a different route with regard to hogs (which is very similar to your way of thinking). :)

On the big 250 lb hog that I shot this year with my .300 Win. Mag. with 180 Barnes X bullets, I was about 50 yards away in a tower blind.  The hog was under the feeder and I shot him on the base of the neck angling down.  At the shot, the hog dropped, but did not squeel.

However, his back legs were kicking, so I decided to take another shot at him.  So I shot him somewhere in the neck.  Well, his rear legs kepts on kicking, so I shot him a third time, I think in the same area.  This time, there was no movement, which doesn't mean that he's dead, but at least he's not running off.

Yes, pigs have a habit of coming back to life, but after 3 shots from a big gun with big strong bullets, I figured that he was down for good, and he was.

My point is that I've learned, at least with bigger hogs, to keep on shooting 'em at least 2 or 3 times just in case.  Last thing I want is a "single shot" hog coming after me with a vengence. :evil:

Best advice of the day "Shoot big hogs more than once!" :twisted:

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2002, 07:08:09 AM »
Can't say as I've had one refuse to die when I was using a centerfire weapon.  Shotgun w/buckshot yes, centerfire rifle or handgun no.   They kick their legs because they are a bit like a reptile in the respect that they have a primitive CNS.  Even humans kick a bit when they are shot and dead.  Seen it happen enough times in 20 years as LEO to know.  

Most pigs don't need more than a single round if it is placed in the right spot.  They may kick, but so far none of mine have ressurrected from the dead.  Kinda humerous to me when someone fires round after round because the animal keeps moving.  Even deer do that to some extent.  

For example, my most recent, and only hunt in S. Texas a month back, I shot a young boar hog at 80yds right in the top of his head.  There was even a perfect .444 caliber hole through one ear.  He immediately dropped into the road and kicked.  Now upon reaching him, we found a bit of gray matter on the road and a sizeable chunk missing from his noggin.   :eek:  He didn't need another round, just because he kicked some.  he was dead.   He wasn't going anywhere.  You guys are hunting some serious possessed hogs or something  :-)

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Re: Coug,
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2002, 09:59:46 AM »
Quote from: markc
You guys are hunting some serious possessed hogs or something  :-)


I am suspect that the hogs of the warmer climes area different breed than the Russians up here in the North. x13 pigs are getting spread around in the game preserves as they produce a much more spectacular hunt all around.

Spent a year in Texas when I come back from Nam.  We used to whack "dillers" (armadillos) as they then, were the pest that the woodchuck is up here.

Because they have a nervous system like an amoeba, we were unable to make clean kills on em with 243, 308, 30-06, 270, even the 350 Rem Mag.  Onlyest thing I found that would stop em cold was a 12 ga slug.  You could blow the heads clean off em with a load of birdshot, an they would hop an flop for some 10 minutes!  Course these were dillers and not of a mind to rip up or kill off what had kilt them.

Now Rooters, they don't take a shine to diein.  As I've said time and again, they are notorious for comin back to life, and dirt mean.  Rule of thumb is if they so much as twitch, pump em fulla lead!  Or arrows, or spears, or keep on stabbin em till the breathin stops.

Apears your pigs die easy, that takes some serious fun out of the equasion :-D

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Now come on Coug
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2002, 02:34:23 AM »
Are you telling me you had trouble killing an armadillo with those big rounds?   Must be the shootin since we drop em with ease with a .22mag.  They aren't bad eating, taste kinda like fish.  They may flop,  but they are dead as a chicken with it's head cut off.  They run around too,  but they are not alive.

Don't know if the hogs down here are a different breed or not, seen alot of very large hogs dropped with small caliber rounds with a single well placed shot.  Like I said, so far none of mine have come back to life.  If they do, they will get another round.    If the gray matter is gone, or the spinal cord is severed, they are not going anywhere, can't.  

I gotta try for one of those monster hogs up north some day.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2002, 03:51:22 AM »
Markc

Ya'll gotta do it!  Once you get inta these hogs life will never be the same. You'll have a whole new religion :D

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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2002, 08:21:57 AM »
well i havent got me a hog yet but all the corn and stuff we put out is gone and the area around them is rooted up so i figer they aint gone they justa hidin ill get me one oh by the way me and my brother in law kills our armadillos with .22 rimfires and he killed one with his .223 with a jacketed hollowpoint bullet well guess i hollar at yall later


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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2002, 08:33:10 AM »
I don't necessarily agree that hogs kicking their legs just means their nervous system is reacting to the shot and that they are dead.  

I have seen quite a few shot hogs that kicked their legs and took off after a few minutes.


When it comes to hogs, especially big ones, I don't take any chances. :twisted:

Zachary