Obama platform for the Outdoorsmen

[ironglow]

 
  From the lessons of experience, we must look suspiciously upon any program the Democrats put forth as for "outdoorsmen"...
  unless those "outdoorsmen" are bird watchers, eco-freaks, mushroom hunters, toad lickers or growers of whacky-weed..

     You will kindly note the insertion of the term "outdoorsmen" rather than "hunters & fishermen"...

   Just like the Democrats support for "sensible" gun laws...obviously "sensible' to them means only the police and politicians can have
  real firearms. The best John Q gets is an airsoft or BB gun...

[swiftman]

I am from Ill , if the Dems from Chicago had their way the only way we could hunt would be with rocks and they would have to be registered and be of a minimum caliber and be locked in a safe when not in use.  The Mayor Daley run mob, I mean democratic party have had some legislation entered and tried to pass that would basicly have us hunting deer with .410 shotguns, tried to pass serial numbers on every round of ammo ect ect. Obama came out of this machine. Our governor doesn't even live in the state capitial he lives in Chicago to be closer to his boss mayor Daley.
Chicago and its suburbs are only behind Wash DC in restrictions on firearms. I never heard Obama speaking up for their right to protect themselfs there let alone hunt.
 They also have gutted our DNR and Soil Conversation offices , so much for caring for the wildlife and outdoors. I guess they needed some more welfare and parking lots in Chicago. There were several  State Parks that were shutdown last week because they took all the money that was suppose to go to their operation and spent it on God knows what.

[ironglow]

  There's Obama's program for outdoorsmen..right from a resident of his "home" state, where the Democrats "machine" prevails

[45-70.gov]

it  is  settle  we  don't  like  McCain   to much  but  love  Sarah palings   and  will  vote  for  them    even  if  bob Barr  looks  better  because Hussein  ob am  and  bidden  are    too  dangerous  to  take  any  chances  that  they might  win.    never  under  estimate  the power  of  idiots  in  large numbers.  it  appears  there  are even  2  people  on  this  forum  that  are  stupid enough  to  vote for  Obama.   any  one  that votes  for  Obama  is  stupid   any   one  that  doesn't  support  McCain  is  just  hard headed  and  has  little  good  choices . i  didn't vote  for  the  first  Bush  over  his  attempted 25 shot  clip  ban  and  then  we  got slick Willy's  assault weapon ban..  once  we  are  down  to  single  shots  they  will  ask  for  reasonable  gun   laws  and  ask  us  to  compromise  and  have  no more  than  a 4 power  scope.......i  suggest  you black ball  any one  you  encounter  that   supports Bidden or Obama or  any democrap...even   a  good democrap [few out  there]  will help  the  likes  of  Obama pelocy boxer Schumer ect

[Cement Man]

ISRA Press Release:
'Nobody Knows Obama's Record on Guns Better Than I Do,' Says ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson
 

SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Sept. 24 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):

"One of the most blatant lies ever to come from a politician's mouth," is how the ISRA is characterizing a recent statement by U.S. Senator Barack Obama. Speaking in the latest issue of "Field & Stream," Obama claims that Illinois sportsmen know him as an advocate for their rights. On the contrary, Obama's voting record while a state senator clearly indicates that he has nothing but contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner.

"Any sportsman who counts Barack Obama as one of his friends is seriously confused," said ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson. "Throughout his tenure in the Illinois Senate, Obama served as one of the most loyal foot soldiers in Mayor Daley's campaign to abolish civilian firearm ownership. While a state senator, Obama voted for legislation that would ban and forcibly confiscate nearly every shotgun, target rifle and hunting rifle in the state. Obama also voted for bills that would ration the number of firearms a law-abiding citizen could own, yet give a pass to the violent thugs who roam our streets. And, inexplicably, Obama voted four times against legislation that would allow citizens to use firearms to defend their homes and families."

"Let us also not forget that Obama served as a director of the Joyce Foundation," continued Pearson. "While on the Joyce Foundation board, Obama funneled tens of millions of dollars to radical gun control organizations such as the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence and the Violence Policy Center."

"If Senator Obama considers his legislative record and his philanthropic endeavors to be acts of advocacy on behalf of sportsmen's rights, then I submit that the Senator is seriously confused as well," asserted Pearson.

"Nobody knows Obama's record on guns better than I do, and it's rotten to the core," said Pearson. "I've been involved in Illinois politics nearly as long as Obama has been alive. In that time, I have never encountered a legislator who was more hostile towards or more disinterested in sportsmen's rights than Barack Obama."


The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful and responsible firearms ownership. Founded in 1903, the ISRA represents the interests of over 1.5 million law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.
 

[Brett]

Read this to get a better idea of Obama's true platform for outdoorsmen.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-and-the-attempt-to-destroy-the-second-amendment/

[Datil]

I am for Lip stick not Dip Stick!
 We know where she stands.
 Marv.

[swiftman]

A lie told often enough becomes the truth. (Vladimir Lenin)

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from waisting the labor of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves from tyrany in government. ( Thomas Jefferson)


An appeaser is the one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last.
Wiinston Churchill

Socialism is the philosphy of failure, the creed of ingnorance, and the gospel of envy, Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.  Winston Churchill

The great dem. gov  from ILL aka Chicago is willing to shut down the state parks and the soil conservation offices for more money to spend on his pet projects. Sounds like a party who cares about the outdoors to me. The same political machine Obama came out of.
The right to bear arms is still not about DUCK HUNTING OR HUGGING TREES.

[billy_56081]

Swiftman as I posted earlier in this thread, this post has been nominated for the stupidest post ever on GBO. And I'm sure it's a shoo in to win.

[Cement Man]

swiftman,

Some shenanigans from our Chicago/Dem governor with a "platform" for the Outdoorsmen

Last night the Governor “quietly” signed SB790 into law.  This robbed $9 Million from hunter and angler fees and will steal an additional $15 Million annually in Federal Aid to DNR unless it gets fixed.  The bolded text below gives some hope that the Governor’s office is considering not sweeping the illegal funds (remember – this bill gives the Governor the authority).  We need to up the pressure to the Governor with basically the same message as before.  Don’t’ sweep the sportsman’s accounts (Habitat, Pheasant, Duck, Fish and Wildlife Endowment, Wildlife and Fish, Habitat Endowment). 

 

With your help we can “encourage” the Governor to leave those accounts alone.  I also assume that now that this has passed the US Fish and Wildlife Service will be sending the Governor an official notice that the sweeps are illegal and the consequences (I’ll keep working on that). 

 

Every hunter and conservationist should be outraged knowing that the user fee they paid so the DNR can manage the wildlife resources and provide quality experiences is now headed to a drug treatment program and that the state will be losing millions more for habitat.

 

Call the Governor.  217-782-6830. When I called I asked to share my opinion about the signing of SB790.  When I was redirected I said:

                My name is Matt Bradshaw and I am a hunter, angler, and member of Pheasants Forever.  I am disappointed the Governor signed SB790 which swept dedicated funds from 6 dedicated sportsman’s accounts tied to federal aid.  I would like to encourage the Governor to review those funds and remove them from the sweeps so not to cost the state an additional $15 Million a year in federal aid.

 

The person on the other end of the phone said – thank you, your opinion has been noted and will be shared with Senior Policy staff.

 

Lets tie up the Governor’s line for the next week – daily calls are encouraged.  Let me know when someone gets a nasty response.

 

A similar plea will be posted on our state website soon.

 

Taken from St. Journal Register…

Gov. Rod Blagojevich has quietly approved the funding bill to restore more than $220 million in state budget cuts, but not acted yet on the measure to actually restore the spending cuts.  Blagojevich on Tuesday evening signed into law Senate Bill 790. That is the bill authorizing more than $220 million in “fund sweeps,” or taking money out of state funds dedicated for special purposes.  Blagojevich spokeswoman Kelley Quinn provided a statement about the signing this morning but did not say why the governor didn’t announce the signing Tuesday.  “The governor did sign the funds sweep bill yesterday. However, there are some funds included in the bill that agencies have expressed concern over. At this point, we don't know how much will actually be available, so it's too soon to say how far this money will go,” Quinn said in the statement.  Quinn said the governor had not decided yet what action to take on Senate Bill 1103. That’s the measure lawmakers approved last month to restore spending so two-dozen state parks and historic sites wouldn’t have to close and hundreds of state workers wouldn’t be laid off.  Blagojevich now has until early December to decide what to do with that bill.  “At this point, we have to see how much money is available to spend,” Quinn said.

 

 

Matt Bradshaw

Regional Wildlife Biologist
Pheasants Forever, Inc.
113 Chickasaw Lane
Loda, IL 60948
Direct:  (217) 386-4324
Cell: (217) 379-7014
Fax:  (217) 386-4324

mbradshaw@pheasantsforever.org
www.pheasantsforever.org

Sorry - Don't mean to get off the Obama topic, but the REAL MINDSET of the Illinois/Chicago/Liberal Dems will dismantle our outdoor and shooting pursuits.

[buffermop]

The State of Confusion (Massachusetts) tried the same thing several years ago.only to have it backfire in their face. The Feds threatened to stop the Grant - Pitman funding for wildlife into the state. They considered real fast to leave our funds alone.

[mirage1988]

Reminds me of a famous poem.
In Germany
-they came first for the communists-I didn't speak up because i wasn't a communist.
-then they came for the trade unionists--I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
-then they came for the jews-I didn't speak up because I wasn't a jew.
-and then...they came for me...and by that time there was no one left to speak up.
And my rewrite-
In America
-They came first for the assault rifles and the handguns-I didn't care because I own neither.
-Then they came for the bolt action sniper rifles with scopes-I didn't care cause I don't own one.
-Then came came for the single-shots-I didn't care because I have a muzzleloader.
-Then the came for my muzzleloader-and threw me in jail because my encore was registered as a pistol with the BATF and nobody cares because everyone else had their guns taken away already.


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As sportsman, hunters, and outdoorsman, we need to stand united against this threat to our rights. Whats important to me may not be as important to someone else but we cant stand back and let them take any right away. And by the way-I do own a black gun, as well as a sniper rifle, so I do care.

[mirage1988]

Reminds me of a famous poem.
In Germany
-they came first for the communists-I didn't speak up because i wasn't a communist.
-then they came for the trade unionists--I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
-then they came for the jews-I didn't speak up because I wasn't a jew.
-and then...they came for me...and by that time there was no one left to speak up.
And my rewrite-
In America
-They came first for the assault rifles and the handguns-I didn't care because I own neither.
-Then they came for the bolt action sniper rifles with scopes-I didn't care cause I don't own one.
-Then came came for the single-shots-I didn't care because I have a muzzleloader.
-Then the came for my muzzleloader-and threw me in jail because my encore was registered as a pistol with the BATF and nobody cares because everyone else had their guns taken away already.


.

As sportsman, hunters, and outdoorsman, we need to stand united against this threat to our rights. Whats important to me may not be as important to someone else but we cant stand back and let them take any right away. And by the way-I do own a black gun, as well as a sniper rifle, so I do care.

[Cement Man]

FROM RICHARD PEARSON...................



October 10, 2008
Fellow Sportsman,
Hello, my name is Rich Pearson and I have been active in the firearm rights
movement for over 40 years. For the past 15 years, I have served in the Illinois
state capitol as the chief lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association.
I lobbied Barack Obama extensively while he was an Illinois State Senator. As a
result of that experience, I know Obama’s attitudes toward guns and gun owners
better than anyone. The truth be tol
d, in all my years in the Capitol I have
never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for the law-abiding firearm
owner than Barack Obama.
Although Obama claims to be an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, his voting record
in the Illinois Senate paints a very different picture. While a state senator,
Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and
target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the
state police to raid homes of gun owners and forcibly confiscate banned guns.
Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers
including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also
voted for a bill that would prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more
than one gun per month.
Without a doubt, Barack Obama has proven himself to be an enemy of the law
abiding firearm owner. At the same time, Obama has proven himself to be a friend
to the hardened criminal. While a state senator, Obama voted 4 times against
legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of home and
family.
Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a “friend” of the law-abiding gun
owner?
And speaking of friends, you can always tell a person by the company they keep.
Obama counts among his friends the Rev. Michael Pfleger - a renegade Chicago
priest who has openly called for the murder of gun shop owners
and pro-gun
legislators. Then there is his buddy Richard Daley, the mayor of Chicago who has
declared that if it were up to him, nobody would be allowed to own a gun. And
let’s not forget Obama’s pal George Soros - the guy who has pumped millions of
dollars into the UN’s international effort to disarm law-abiding citizens.
Obama has shown that he is more than willing to use other people’s money to fund
his campaign to take your guns away from you. While a board member of the
leftist Joyce Foundation, Barack Obama wrote checks for tens of millions of
dollars to extremist gun control organizations such as the Illinois Council
Against Handgun Violence and the Violence Policy Center.
Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a “friend” of the law-abiding gun
owner?
By now, I’m sure that many of you have received mailings from an organization
called “American Hunters and Shooters Association(AHSA)” talking about what a
swell fellow Obama is and how he honors the 2nd Amendment and how you will never
have to worry about Obama coming to take your guns. Let me make it perfectly
clear - everything the AHSA says about Obama is pure hogwash. The AHSA is headed
by a group of left-wing elitists who subscribe to the British view of hunting
and shooting. That is, a state of affairs where hunting and shooting are
reserved for the wealthy upper-crust who can afford guided hunts on20exclusive
private reserves. The AHSA is not your friend, never will be.
In closing, I’d like to remind you that I’m a guy who has actually gone nose to
nose with Obama on gun rights issues. The Obama I know cannot even begin to
identify with this nation’s outdoor traditions. The Obama I know sees you, the
law abiding gun owner, as nothing but a low-class lummox who is easily swayed by
the flash of a smile and a ration of rosy rhetoric. The Obama I know is a
stony-faced liar who has honed his skill at getting what he wants - so long as
people are willing to give it to him.
That’s the Barack Obama I know.
Sincerely,
(original signed)
Richard A. Pearson
Executive Director
Illinois State Rifle Association
420 E. Locust, P.O. Box 637, Chatsworth, IL 60921
Phone: (815) 635-3198 or (815) 635-3166 Fax: (815) 635-3723 Website:
www..isra.org

[Troyboy]

The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It is there for you to be able to protect yourself and your country. Our fore fathers would have never allowed this nonsense. Myself i do not hunt. I care nothing for it. I am a gun owner and i am an american. We must protect the second amendment at all costs. Hunter, Collector, Range Rat, makes no difference. That Obama Platform is as transparent as amnesty for illegals. What a joke


                                                   Troy


                                                   

[powderman]

The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It is there for you to be able to protect yourself and your country. Our fore fathers would have never allowed this nonsense. Myself i do not hunt. I care nothing for it. I am a gun owner and i am an american. We must protect the second amendment at all costs. Hunter, Collector, Range Rat, makes no difference. That Obama Platform is as transparent as amnesty for illegals. What a joke


                                                   Troy

YEP. But there are some here that will support him by voting 3rd party, knowing they will help him, but don't care. POWDERMAN.