Author Topic: Recoil (Read 957 times)

T_Baz_204 · « **on:** September 10, 2008, 09:26:22 AM »

Just got my first NEF in 22-250. Love it I told my brother not to even bother looking at one because you'll want one. Sure enuff he came home with a .223. I warned him. Anyways my question is , is there any way to help with the recoil jump ? It has a little more then I was expecting. Any tricks I should know about?

Swampman · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2008, 09:28:19 AM »

You can fill the hollow part of the buttstock with lead shot.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2008, 10:22:43 AM »

Quote from: danitrev81 on September 10, 2008, 09:26:22 AM

Just got my first NEF in 22-250. Love it ... is there any way to help with the recoil jump ? It has a little more then I was expecting.

22-250? <snicker> recoil? <chuckle> jump? <choke - gag!> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

No... okay... I'm sorry

Really....

Tell ya what you do there Slick... Since you love your Handi - don't we all - go get yo'sef another one; this time in 45/70! Then get young Master Tyke to recommend some handloads for you to try... This might give you a new perspective on the recoil issue...

Sorry, I'm never really much help... just a smart mouth.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2008, 10:40:06 AM »

I think the OP wants to reduce muzzle jump so the target can be seen at impact, something not likely to happen with a 22-250, weight at the forend would be better advice IF the forend stud was attached better, but it's not, so that's not such good advice. Best advice is to add a 204 Ruger accessory barrel instead of weight to the butt stock.

Tim

T_Baz_204 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2008, 11:02:40 AM »

I know puny .250 and I'm talking about recoil. But quickdtoo was right I was expecting to see my shots is all.

GoodOlBoy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2008, 11:04:58 AM »

If you do have a swivel stud are you using a bipod attached to it? (Wal-mart here carries a decent one for around $45, or hit cabelas or midwayusa) If not consider it. The extra weight will help and you get a steadier rest up front. After that its down to weight in the stock etc.

Gotta be honest never seen a 223 jump enough to be a problem, but then again I have never shot one in a handi rifle.

GoodOlBoy

petemi · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2008, 11:37:21 AM »

I guess I never worried a bunch about recoil in my .22-250. It does jump a little, but if I'm shooting 2 or 3 hundred yards, I can usually see the bullet hit. Mine is a synthetic stock, and I may put a little lead in it, not as much as I put in my "06, but perhaps a pound. or 12 oz. Or, I may just put a wood stock on it and be about the right weight.....perhaps.

Hey Ty, tell the man about recoil!!!

PartsMan · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2008, 11:43:35 AM »

My 223 does better if I use the bipod and put a 1/2 pound in the stock.
What scope do you have? Have you tried turning it down a little?
Turning the power down increases the field of view.

tykempster · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2008, 11:45:00 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apA5dLb21cs

I don't think the muzzle jump is that bad, just focus on you non dominant eye right after shooting to see all the action downrange!

LaOtto222 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 10, 2008, 12:05:10 PM »

Drill some holes around the top of the barrel at the muzzle, that will help keep it from jumpin' around.

seriously - Many people add a muzzle break to reduce muzzle jump in varmint rifles for the very reason you described, not to reduce recoil.

T_Baz_204 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 10, 2008, 12:41:24 PM »

I don't think I want to drill any holes in the barrell.I will try a bi-pod and maybe a little weight in the stock.

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 10, 2008, 12:45:53 PM »

If you add weight make sure its in the butt not the forarm ( very BAD ) also you could have a break added that has a directional porting to keep the jump down but ne warned it's LOUD .

stimpy

petemi · « **Reply #12 on:** September 11, 2008, 08:05:38 AM »

Quote from: PartsMan on September 10, 2008, 11:43:35 AM

My 223 does better if I use the bipod and put a 1/2 pound in the stock.
What scope do you have? Have you tried turning it down a little?
Turning the power down increases the field of view.

I think turning down the power on the scope is the best and easiest idea. I think that is probably why I see most of my bullets strike out of all the calibers I shoot at distance. I always use the lowest possible power for better clarity, light, faster target acquisition and field of view.

And, Stimpy did say LOUD!!!

Graybeard · « **Reply #13 on:** September 11, 2008, 12:13:41 PM »

You are NOT gonna see the bullet impact on an NEF .22-250 PERIOD. Nice if possible but ain't gonna happen. Really even with my R700 Varmint with huge honking full bull 26" barrel and a gross weight close to twelve pounds I pretty much can't. Now with my .17 Fireball that's a whole different story.

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2008, 03:13:33 PM »

I agree with GB also Tim about the only one I get a good impact sight on is my 204 I don't have the 22-250 but I got 225win bull and the 223 bull and at those ranges I don't see it happening and if ya screw up with the weight in the forearm you will tear off the the screw mount from the bbl. Kurt

tykempster · « **Reply #15 on:** September 11, 2008, 03:43:28 PM »

Put a dang brake on it, that's about the only way to see hits. Or dig some holes to put your bipod feet in and then cover them up a bit.

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 11, 2008, 03:57:41 PM »

There is always the old standby , chain it down to a D9 cat , that should hold it just fine .

I can't see the hits with mine either so I just live with it or get a spotter .

stimpy

henry1 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 11, 2008, 04:54:54 PM »

I have a .223 sprlight, and i filled the plastic stock with as much shot as it would hold (its quite a bit I would say at least 5lbs!). I wanted to see prarie dogs flip up and out of the scope! and this did help alot! Hope this helps ya bud.

Now this brings another question up. If you welded the barrel lug, you could add all the weight you wanted to the forearm couldnt you? I might have my neighbor weld my lug if this is the case. then itl be rock solid!

Thanks fellas!
Henry

T_Baz_204 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 12, 2008, 01:52:14 AM »

I think what I'll do is start with the 10ga,12ga then the 300 ultra , 7 mm, .270 buy the time I get to the .250 it'll seem like a bb gun.

tykempster · « **Reply #19 on:** September 12, 2008, 02:54:47 AM »

300 Ultra in a Handi may be a bomb.

I suggest 45-120 if you want to get accustomed to recoil. When shooting from the bench without a lead sled make sure the hammer doesn't eat your cheek.

PartsMan · « **Reply #20 on:** September 12, 2008, 03:58:12 AM »

Quote from: tykempster on September 12, 2008, 02:54:47 AM

300 Ultra in a Handi may be a bomb.

I suggest 45-120 if you want to get accustomed to recoil. When shooting from the bench without a lead sled make sure the hammer doesn't eat your cheek.

Some people have other guns that arn't handis.

PartsMan · « **Reply #21 on:** September 12, 2008, 04:01:55 AM »

Quote from: henry1 on September 11, 2008, 04:54:54 PM

If you welded the barrel lug, you could add all the weight you wanted to the forearm couldnt you? I might have my neighbor weld my lug if this is the case. then itl be rock solid!
Thanks fellas!
Henry

Be very careful welding on a good barrel. It would be very easy to ruin it.
A barrel band would take the stress off of the stud all togather. Much easier to fix later if you don't like it too.

petemi · « **Reply #22 on:** September 12, 2008, 04:25:55 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard on September 11, 2008, 12:13:41 PM

You are NOT gonna see the bullet impact on an NEF .22-250 PERIOD. Nice if possible but ain't gonna happen. Really even with my R700 Varmint with huge honking full bull 26" barrel and a gross weight close to twelve pounds I pretty much can't. Now with my .17 Fireball that's a whole different story.

I missed a crow this morning with the .22-250 at about 325 yards...pilot error. He was broadside and the bullet passed over his shoulders by what I would guess 3 or 4 inches and tore up alfalfa, rainwater and dirt. Could it be I saw that because I shoot with both eyes open?