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Offline Macthediver

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Dry Dirt
« on: September 14, 2008, 02:57:19 PM »
Today it finally rained some, so far barely enough to hold the dust down, but it's still trying. It got me to thinking though! I don't have any dry dirt put away. It's been so dry most all summer I haven't given it a thought, the grounds been like powder. I need to get busy and set several pails in the shed in case come trapping season it rains every other day. Then there is always the freezing issue.
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How many of you out there have your dirt put up yet??

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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 02:11:33 AM »
viagra ads on every thread now? kind of a nuisance...

got about 200 gals of dry dirt put up- if I can get another 50-75 gals it will be a bonus, but not really needed.

I pick it up 5 gals at a time while gopher trapping from gopher mounds- what nice  with this, is that you can see the color of it when dry- I avoid all brownish, sandy stuff- and gather only good black dirt- it will dry lighter, and be just perfect for my needs.
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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 05:03:39 AM »
Steve
I bet them gophers got that dirt all sifted nice and fine too? Huh?
You ever try waxing any of that dirt? There was a fellow trapper across the river in MN that made some real sweet wax dirt. He was going to have me over and show me how when he was working on it. Thing is he got killed back in January cutting a tree. I should have took his offer sooner.
I did try waxing dirt on my own a few years back and had only mediocre results.


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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 06:17:55 AM »
presifted is right- when I see hindredso f mounds a day, we can pick ones with "good dirt".

no, never tried waxed dirt, althought I feel once I do, i'd never go back. I talk to far too many that use it, and love it. You are right, the gopher dirt would be ideal.

problem is, so to speak, I cna get byb with dry dirt. The majority of my canine trapping takes place before the real cold and snow, so usually dry dirt and peat moss do the trick. Then later winter, once its stabilised, dry dirt again does the trick.

stef has tried waxing everything- dirt, sand, peatr moss- and he likes waxed sand better- has less weight per pound being main advantage, plus it beds a trap well.

don't know if this is permitted, but there are several good threads on waxed dirt, sand etc with pics on CRU.

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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 08:59:09 AM »
I don't know what part of the country you guys are from but around here we have a lot of sage brush.  Out in the open when the ground has taken on some moisture and it is beginning to freeze up hard, I find a clump of bushy sage brush and it will usually have dry dirt under it.  It usually doesn't keep the trap bed from taking on water/snow melt, but it sure is easier to bed the trap with than frozen chunks.  I will usually mix a little plain table salt with it and that will "winterize" it for a while.  Not as good as waxed dirt, but might help in a pinch. 
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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 09:40:56 AM »
Have any of you guys used waxed dirt..................I live here in Northern Maine it gets down right cold fast and the ground will freeze up quick... I make waxed dirt.......Stuff will never freeze and can be used year round.....  You do have to make it when the sun is at it's hottest, during the summer, I have cooked a bit in the oven but the wife seems to dislike this idea(DON'T KNOW WHY, IT'S ALL IN THE QUEST FOR FUR)  But you have to sift your dirt in a 1/4 in screen, dry it on a tarp, then sift it throught a house screen, put it in a 5 gal pale put the lid on and stick it in the sun, any condensation on the inside of the lid means moisture, dry it some more.  Take canning wax, 1.5lbs per 5 gal of dirt, grate it on the irt , cook it or put it in the sun.......Mix it in and your done......I have better directions then that but you get the idea.........


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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 11:55:45 AM »
I've used waxed dirt it works great.It's a pain to make enough to get me through the season though.I've got 2 barrels of dry dirt already.I have coal shale veins around here so I'm going to get a couple of barrels of coal shale for bedding then top dress with dry dirt.I've tried peat moss.It works but it's a pain to bed a trap in and the wind around here can uncover your sets even when top dressed with dry dirt.If the weather gets real nasty,hard to trap in I'll just go to snares.I have to run more snares numberwise but I can still get good numbers snaring.
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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 04:17:39 AM »
Finding dry dirt has only been a problem for me during really wet weather. I've gotten dirt from under bridges, inside old farm buildings, and under the floor of old corn cribs. I just thought it was interesting that the weather has been so dry I could fill a bucket form the back yard. Yet I didn't think to do it till it started raining. Right now we are still so dry I can get dirt most any where. I do recall years though when I had the garage floor covered with plywood and was raking the dirt daily to dry it.
Since there are few fox here anymore and no real fox market. I don't do much for K-9s anyway. So that said a few 5 gallon pails stashed in the garage get me by.
Has anyone ever made their wax dirt with a cement mixer and a propane heater? I've heard of that one.

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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 07:24:27 PM »
I've tried the cement mixer and propane torch(weed burner) method.Be careful as it's easy to burn the wax getting it too hot.Coyotes don't want to work the burned waxed dirt sets,bobcats don't seem to mind.
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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 01:28:41 AM »
I run  the metal cement mixer  and hold a propane torch wand just  even with mixer  barrel opening.  The sand and wax  will melt giving your sand or medium a dark or wet look and its done .  You cant put torch inside  barrel opening as it will go out as not enough oxygen.  This method will keep you from burning  wax.   As soon as  sand or medium is dark i empty into wheel barrow and let cool and then put into five gallon buckets   and dont put top  on bucket till next day to facilitate total cooling.  This method works for me  , have 300 gallons done so far.   

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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 04:40:10 AM »
most of the ones that make any quanity of dry dirt, use the mixer.

trapping in WY was all sage and greasewood- love'd it!

although, when it snows, sure are alot of little sage bushes with holes under them that look like dirtholes- Got so i'd flag that exact sage I was setting under and it didn't deter coyotes 1 bit.
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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2008, 05:19:15 AM »
trapping in WY was all sage and greasewood- love'd it!

although, when it snows, sure are alot of little sage bushes with holes under them that look like dirtholes- Got so i'd flag that exact sage I was setting under and it didn't deter coyotes 1 bit.

Also those side hills full of juniper trees are good.  Seems like all the area under them is dry year long.  They also work good for hanging bobcat flags.
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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2008, 06:19:39 AM »
I bet those sidehills would be good- but wasn't allowed to trap them- elk season was on when I was out there- I stuck to the flats, etc
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Re: Dry Dirt
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2008, 04:30:40 PM »
about 100 gal. dry woods dirt, and 1 1/2 bales dry peat. 2 to 1 peat to dirt mix goes a long way as my set patterns are small.