Author Topic: Constitution Party (Read 2880 times)

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #30 on:** September 23, 2008, 03:37:21 PM »

I live in a small town in SW Pa where the population is about 95% white people. I was driving down the road today and saw a van with posters all over it. I did not have time to read but one of them and it said 50% black 100% wrong. I turned to my wife and said I would like to see him ride around Pittsburgh with those signs. I bet in the bad neighborhoods there he would only make it a few blocks before being shot at. Dale

45-70.gov · « **Reply #31 on:** September 23, 2008, 04:56:00 PM »

dale...OBAMA IS WINNIG IN YOU STATE NOW.....i suggest you put a few signs on your truck....right now he is behind in my state.....Tim

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #32 on:** September 23, 2008, 05:09:09 PM »

Tim ( 45-70.gov ) and I go back about 25 years and we share many of the same thoughts and feeling of our country among other things. Tim I will be putting a McCain sign in my yard. With most a definite protest from my wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am still trying to steer her in the right direction but I think she is hopeless. Dale

45-70.gov · « **Reply #33 on:** September 24, 2008, 03:21:18 AM »

we appreciate your efforts for trying to save her and take back half the mean and nasty things we said about you for fraternizing with the enemy......if she proves unusable steer her towards the green party ....Tm IT WILL BE MCCAIN OR OBAMA

magooch · « **Reply #34 on:** September 24, 2008, 03:59:58 AM »

The sign was wrong. It should have read, Obama, 50% American, 100% Black and 100% Wrong. And the guy with the sign would probably be fine driving through the rough neighborhoods of Pittsburgh. Most of the inhabitants probably can't read anyway.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #35 on:** September 24, 2008, 04:20:06 AM »

one should not confuse Arab with other(s)!

deltecs · « **Reply #36 on:** September 24, 2008, 07:20:00 AM »

We know Obama is 1/2 Arab, but he, himself claims to be 100% black. Do you think this self portrait was designed to be more acceptable to Americans in general and the black community in particular? I do.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #37 on:** September 24, 2008, 08:08:46 AM »

when OBAMA attended a Catholic school in Indonesia he was registered there as a Muslim look up you tube,,,,,,,,,don't talk about my mama....i think thats it......if not its still funny

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #38 on:** September 24, 2008, 09:03:51 AM »

45-70 GOVT. cause we married folk ( MAN AND WOMAN ) tend to raise children that keep the country going when you and i get to old to do so ! At least it was that way back in the day !
Trust me your taxes don't come near the cost of raising children ! And that's why same sex UNIONS should not have the same rights , CAUSE ITS ALL ABOUT THEM !!!!!!!!!!!!
I Don't judge them , GOD will do that ! But if they want something then they should give something !

45-70.gov · « **Reply #39 on:** September 24, 2008, 03:52:17 PM »

i raised 3 kids without a wife paid the birth bills out of pocket...no government hand outs here..i payed for these kids birth selling fire wood after work...i now have 3 kids in college...i know what it cost and i cook and do laundry too...without a wife.... that is the life i chose and the tax code shouldn't change for different people i am 53 and i can retire when i feel like it.. i am an un educated carpenter that saved and invested well .. i don't smoke or drink so that money went into realestate....i think i will puke if i hear OBAMA tell me how hopeless our situation is again....any one that doesn't succeed in America just didn't want to.....Tim

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #40 on:** September 25, 2008, 04:42:38 AM »

Eh... I'm still voting 3rd party as my view is to vote for the best person for the job. McCain nor Obama are the best people for the job. I think we'll all be surprised when we see the third party (s) numbers way up. Yeah they won't get elected because the media(s) don't give them any coverage. People refuse to do any sort of research on their own as to who IS the best person for the job. So just keep watching CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, FOX... keep listening to talk radio - Rush, Sean, Boortz, because clearly, both forms of media form an open and honest opinion about all the parties, candidates and who is best for the job...

I will admit that I enjoy listening to Michael Savage when I get the chance because he seems to be equally hard on all forms of politics and administrations.

It'll be a long cold day in hell before I vote for McCain or Obama...

So let me ask you this question... Why IS McCain the best man for the job? What qualifications does he have to make him a good president and leader of the free world?

TribReady · « **Reply #41 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:16:32 AM »

I don't think we've had "the best man for the job" in many, many years. The best qualified people to be president would never run and would probably not be electable. They're too busy with successful careers and such.

What it comes down to is a choice. These are the candidates put before us, that's it, make the best choice of those. You're in the only open restaurant and are hungry. The menu choices are spaghetti and a burger. You've been hungry all day for a steak and know that a steak would really satisfy you, but it's not on the menu. Do you still order the steak? Do you not eat at all? Or do you make the best choice you can of the 2? (I know, not the best analogy or anything, but c'mon, I just thought of it fast

)

Also, sometimes, like many have stated on Graybeard and elsewhere, it's just as important to keep someone out as electing someone in.

lrs · « **Reply #42 on:** September 25, 2008, 07:03:08 AM »

Quote from: TribReady on September 25, 2008, 05:16:32 AM

I don't think we've had "the best man for the job" in many, many years. The best qualified people to be president would never run and would probably not be electable. They're too busy with successful careers and such.

What it comes down to is a choice. These are the candidates put before us, that's it, make the best choice of those. You're in the only open restaurant and are hungry. The menu choices are spaghetti and a burger. You've been hungry all day for a steak and know that a steak would really satisfy you, but it's not on the menu. Do you still order the steak? Do you not eat at all? Or do you make the best choice you can of the 2? (I know, not the best analogy or anything, but c'mon, I just thought of it fast )

Also, sometimes, like many have stated on Graybeard and elsewhere, it's just as important to keep someone out as electing someone in.

I would gladly settle for spaghetti or a burger. I'm not all that hard to please.
But I won't settle for a crap sandwich or tainted meat.

Hooker · « **Reply #43 on:** September 25, 2008, 07:37:22 AM »

Quote from: lrs on September 25, 2008, 07:03:08 AM

Quote from: TribReady on September 25, 2008, 05:16:32 AM
I don't think we've had "the best man for the job" in many, many years. The best qualified people to be president would never run and would probably not be electable. They're too busy with successful careers and such.

What it comes down to is a choice. These are the candidates put before us, that's it, make the best choice of those. You're in the only open restaurant and are hungry. The menu choices are spaghetti and a burger. You've been hungry all day for a steak and know that a steak would really satisfy you, but it's not on the menu. Do you still order the steak? Do you not eat at all? Or do you make the best choice you can of the 2? (I know, not the best analogy or anything, but c'mon, I just thought of it fast )

Also, sometimes, like many have stated on Graybeard and elsewhere, it's just as important to keep someone out as electing someone in.

I would gladly settle for spaghetti or a burger. I'm not all that hard to please.
But I won't settle for a crap sandwich or tainted meat.

Third party votes will most likely get you the same results as a vote for OB or not voting at all. I hope you enjoy your meal.

Pat

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #44 on:** September 25, 2008, 07:39:54 AM »

I've got to agree w/ Iris... but also remember that there is more than 2 choices on the menu. Its not un-patriotic to vote for X or Y... Its doing your civil duty to vote period. Just because a person decides that he/she isn't going to take part in a corrupt, 2 party system doesn't mean that they throw their vote away. In a sense it actually means more (in a civil duty standpoint) to no longer take part in a "lesser of 2 evils" vote and do what was intended and vote for the person that the individual thinks is best suited to take care of the country.

This cracks me up because people are saying that a vote 3rd party is a vote for Obama. I still haven't seen any facts as to what makes either McCain or Obama qualified. Or how my vote for a 3rd party makes me less American or endangering America!

Hooker · « **Reply #45 on:** September 25, 2008, 08:16:29 AM »

I fully understand where you are coming from and to a point I agree.
No I do not think less of a person who votes third party. I vote that way quite often, But it is more important to me that we don't lose to much ground to the left.
With every inch we lose it makes it that much harder to get back where we were. I believe we stand a much better chance of recovering from McCain than we do from Obama.
McCain is not my top choice for the job,But he is head and shoulders above Obama.
There is no viable alternative in the third parties at this time, they can't win this go round. So I contend that McCain is the best choice we can make in this election. Think of it as saving something for the future. If and when we get the right candidate in the job he must have something to work with.

Pat

lrs · « **Reply #46 on:** September 25, 2008, 09:08:14 AM »

Maybe, who knows. I do believe there is one who has all power, and he is ultimately in control. And it ain't me.
History has shown that evil exists, it grows, and it spreads, when good men lay idle.
Typically it flourishes until it is destroyed. Historically, it is allowed to gain strength until it is almost too late. It has always been that way.
I don't think McCain is evil, but I do think BHO is. McCain, to me, seems to be horribly misguided.
I think a catastrophic era in American history is inevitable.
If bho wins, it will get here fast, say within 2 years.
If McCain wins, it will only be delayed.

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #47 on:** September 25, 2008, 09:59:10 AM »

Bush is horribly mis-guided, but he was a governor before he became president. He at least had executive exp.

Neither Obama nor McCain have any executive exp. McCain has been a senator since Noah got off the Ark, Obama doesn't really have much exp. as even a senator, but he gets the charisma vote.

I hate to say it, but a lot of Americans are just tired of a republican administration. There is going to be a TON of voters that will vote Barak just because he's not a Repub... to vote Repub, means to vote in another 4 years of a Bush like administration. So those are the people that you should at least try to sway 3rd party... then their votes aren't going to Obama.

I refuse to vote McCain just because of his Amnesty bill... Talk about the downfall of American sovereignty...

powderman · « **Reply #48 on:** September 25, 2008, 10:35:40 AM »

I believe you 3rd party guys really want osama to win but are ashamed to admit it, you should be. POWDERMAN,

deltecs · « **Reply #49 on:** September 25, 2008, 10:59:29 AM »

Quote from: Singleshotsam on September 25, 2008, 09:59:10 AM

Bush is horribly mis-guided, but he was a governor before he became president. He at least had executive exp.

Neither Obama nor McCain have any executive exp. McCain has been a senator since Noah got off the Ark, Obama doesn't really have much exp. as even a senator, but he gets the charisma vote.

I hate to say it, but a lot of Americans are just tired of a republican administration. There is going to be a TON of voters that will vote Barak just because he's not a Repub... to vote Repub, means to vote in another 4 years of a Bush like administration. So those are the people that you should at least try to sway 3rd party... then their votes aren't going to Obama.

I refuse to vote McCain just because of his Amnesty bill... Talk about the downfall of American sovereignty...

I cannot believe I read this. Here is a pro gun ticket in McCain/Palin and the worry is about illegal Amnesty? What other candidate possibly electable is going to change that, in addition to enacting gun control? Certainly not Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Ross Perot, Jesse Ventura, or any other is going to have any significant input into whether or not an Amnesty Bill is enacted, except as a vote in Congress. And one is worried about McCain as President supporting such a bill. He had better worry about Obama supporting such a bill with the inclusion of all citizen rights and privelges without paying taxes for them, registering these illegals to vote through ACORN as liberal Democrats, firearms and ammo restrictions, regulations, and outright ban, and appointment of liberal judges to SCOTUS. And McCain is the problem with a position that I personally do not agree with on amnesty, but the balance of his policies I do, especially in light of the liberal Obama policies. So vote your conscience to a third party and we will wind up just as we did with Clinton. A President who committed perjury, many scandals, Brady Bill, total lack of foreign policy, embassy bombings, no homeland security, illegal immigration without prosecution and lack of national economic policy that resulted in different accounting methods demanded by government and directives to lend to unqualified applicants, which placed us is the current economic crisis. Go ahead and then your conscience will be clear, but the rest of the nation will suffer because you used emotion instead of logic, to accomplish nothing but the opposite policies of a primary goal.

swampratt · « **Reply #50 on:** September 25, 2008, 11:03:26 AM »

Did I miss something in grade school..Maybe i just got jacked around too much in life but ,I heard somewhere that it is not a vote of the people but ...Electoral votes that determin the presidency...

And if who you voted for did not get the popular vote then your vote goes to your second choice...
The electors do not have to vote for the candidates that they are officially pledged to..What a mess

Another thing that EARKS me is , democrat and republican ,among others, a lot of times if one has a good idea the other goes against it. AAAHHHH being divided...

UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

we need to cut the bull and all pull together for America no matter republican --democrat . black-
white - brown -green ....

45-70.gov · « **Reply #51 on:** September 25, 2008, 03:54:25 PM »

IT WILL BE BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA OR MCCAIN.......IS ANYONE HERE STUPID ENOUGH TO BELEIVE ANY DIFFERENT?

??......don't tell me how the 2 party system is wrong ...or 3rd parties will never get going if every one thinks they will never win.....i am with you 98% of the time ......without telling me what should be or what could be and deal with what IS and explain what you hope to accomplish by not helping stop OBAMA......your vote WILL influence the out come in a very small way if you vote for one or the other........but
if you don't care which and you think sending a message is more important than who wins then vote 3rd party.............but explain your self dealing with what is not what should be

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #52 on:** September 26, 2008, 06:11:28 AM »

Why would you say that a vote 3rd party is a vote for Obama? A vote 3rd party is a vote 3rd party. I am not throwing away a vote. The great thing about America is that until the ticket tells me otherwise I can write in whoever I want. And the great thing is that my vote counts as my vote. It is not a vote for Obama, nor is a vote for McCain!

Should I only vote for the pro-gun/anti gun ban ticket? I've bought my "assult rifle". I have my ammo stocked up. I've prepared for another inevitable "assult weapons" ban. If not an ammo ban. If you are not doing so, then do not complain when it happens. I'm a member of the NRA, and Gun Owners of America. But I don't have to vote for who they endorse...

Yes, one of the major issues of the election is the American Citizens right to bear arms. But when the economy is headed down the crapper, When the Sovereignty of our Nation is at stake, and a ton of our jobs are heading overseas, its not the only factor when voting. 3rd party rules and i'm still a patriot for voting!

deltecs · « **Reply #53 on:** September 26, 2008, 09:28:48 AM »

Whoever votes for a third party candidate with more conservative policies than the Rep ticket will send a vote to Obama. By not voting for McCain and relative conservative policies, the only other electable candidate is going to be Obama. So by voting third party with this vote not only ineffective, it is one lost vote for McCain while Obama still retains his constituency. In Alaska's last State House election, the vote was tied for 2 candidates and was decided by a coin toss. So a vote for anyone other than McCain by those with conservative principles is a vote for Obama, with the result that he will probably win with an electorate voting third party. His liberal policies then will be implemented in total contradiction with the third party's philosophy. So effectively a person voted for Obama. That is the truth. That is the facts. That is the way American politics works. Any other justification not only doesn't recognize the truth, it is voting for emotional junk instead of logic in getting some of what is needed.

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #54 on:** September 26, 2008, 09:54:54 AM »

I guess I'll just go ahead and vote for Obama then...

45-70.gov · « **Reply #55 on:** September 26, 2008, 09:58:55 AM »

lets simplify the math 4 morons vote for OBAMA ......3 of us get sick but force ourself to vote MCCAIN ...3 make a very well intented statement and vote for BOB BARR who wins???/

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #56 on:** September 26, 2008, 10:11:14 AM »

Nope, Sorry. All of you 2 party system people have made it VERY clear that a vote 3rd party is a vote for Obama...
I can't stand the fact that my 3rd party vote is getting thrown away... So I am stuck w/ no choice but to vote for Obama. There is no math involved.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

powderman · « **Reply #57 on:** September 26, 2008, 10:32:12 AM »

4570 govt. I fear you have made it too simple, others here can't seem to do the math.
sglshotsam. I guess you believe that theres no reason for citizens to own guns, that killing babies is birth control, and homosexuals are just another lifestyle. Yep, you and osama will get along fine. POWDERMAN.

ms · « **Reply #58 on:** September 26, 2008, 10:53:02 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Y1ougODMo

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #59 on:** September 26, 2008, 11:09:04 AM »

Other than the guns, I suppose I'm fine w/ a Bush admin as well... Hell under the Bush Admin. Gay marriage is now legal in some states... Abortion is still legal...? Not to mention our deficit...

Why vote in another republican when they are doing all the right things for the dems?

This of course is absurd and so is the notion of 2 party voting. Do what you feel is right and vote for the person you feel is going to do the best job. Be it party 1, 2, or 3... or is it the Mystery Box?