DIY trigger work on Rossi Single

[cbxboy]

Anybody pull down there Rossi Single for trigger lightening?  I would like to give it a try and see if I can do it.  Unfortuantely I don't have a ton of knowledge on doing it but am not afraid to give it a swing.

Anyone do this themselves and ok with talking through it?  The trigger pull is not horrible and far better than many of my milsurps but a nice trigger is a nice trigger!

Open for suggestions.............

[mrbigtexan]

i would like to hear some on this myself, i have thought about maybe a stronger hammer spring for mine so that i could also fire cheap army ammo in mine. if you give it a try then please post all the info about it.

[mrbigtexan]

just  wondering if you tried it yet?

[mrbigtexan]

where did you go cbxboy?

[cbxboy]

I'm still here...just been busy.  I am More of a milsurp guy and deer hunting is coming up....add to this a Mrs, 3 kids and the obligatory 60 hours of work and I never get to my "projects" until 6 months AFTER I get the big idea.   Heck Fall is coming and my yard is 1 foot deep in leaves

Did add some shelves in the gun room for reloading equipment and added a stash of x39 brass.  Did my first reloads and had a minor "new guy" moment and wrecked 3 casings. 

I haven't even looked into tearing my Rossi apart yet.  I have no experience in this at all and would still liket o see if someone else has experience.  If I do it I will try and take pics and show how it is done.......anyone?? 

[cbxboy]

Well tore down my .270 tonight and was going to attempt a teardown and reassemble......didn't go perfectly smooth as of yet.  I need to spend alot of patient time with it.  2 springs are causing me "which order" dilemna.  Not uncommon and as you pull the trigger guard down your shooting blind and can't see exactly how it was prior to removal.

I have it somewhat figured out but neded to walk away for a few moments-days.

I'll post more later.  I may need to take it completely apart and reassemble from the top??

I took the plunge and as of now the .270 is out of service....which doesn't matter much anyway

[mitchx3]

Have you found any schematics? I was going to try to put a heavier hammer spring in my 7.62x39 but I don't want to just start pounding random pins out.

[cbxboy]

No schematics, but I can tell you the hammer spring is not a "spring" as in coil spring it is similar to a Clothespin spring.  I am wondering if there even are heavier springs available.

Why you need a heavier spring anyway?  Are you shooting Wolf ammo?  I have had no issues at all with any of my Rossi rifles and "commercial" ammo.  I have had issues with S&B and Wolf not igniting well.  All others have been fabulous.

[mitchx3]

I won't own an ammo selective gun, especially one that won't fire the cheapest and most common ammo (Wolf) available to me. Since I bought this on a whim for $100 I don't mind doing some work and I have this problem where I take apart everything I own. AGI has a course on making springs that I have viewed and it looks doable.

I don't want to just pull pins and see what flies but I think it might come to that.


Edit: Just found found the manual at the Rossi site. It has a crude exploded diagram on one of the last pages.
manual: http://mitchx3.googlepages.com/SINGLESHOT.pdf

[gooser]

yes, I lightened up the pull on my rossi .223hb. I have it at about 1 1/2lb and made it smoother,its real nice now.
One thing is to just hone the parts,dont file anything.I filed the hammer angle wrong and the sear would not engage at all......so, I refiled to the correct angle and honed it.That got it working again. I thought I would have to replace the trigger but luckily didn't. Even though the file work was very slight,just to remove some roughness,I don't recomend it.

I have a print somewhere I'll find and post it with more info on this.But, I need to dig through my work room first. I should respond soon with it.

gooser

[cbxboy]

Gooser,

Thanks much, I will either take a few more pins out and try to reassemble "top down" instead of Bottom up OR send to Braztech with a note that says "I did this" and have them reassemble.

I "have it down" as HOW it goes.  The longer spring is tougher than heck to get to sit in place correctly, I am most intesreted in finding out how to get the long spring to sit in place.

[gooser]

ok, I found the prints. A very important hint is to make a replacement pin for the big pin at the rear of the trigger group (above the trigger), it is number 27 on the print. I made the mistake of driving it right out the first time. then you have your hands full to line up springs and things.....but it can be done.
 The replacement pin I made is .195 x .672.   Drive out the existing pin with this "tool", LEAVING THE TOOL IN PLACE to hold the group together. Just tap it in   untill the trigger assembly will come out.
The pins are staked on the right side of the receiver,so you will drive them out from the left side.Replace from the right.
 Just remove the 2 pins directly above the trigger assembly, being numbers 52,27.

This is how it was on my rifle.
Hopefully yours will be the same.

gooser

[gooser]

I have two more prints here.

[gooser]

ok, last one. I hope these help you out.

Let us know how you did.
Thanks,
gooser

[gooser]

cbxboy , make a pin..."tool", as I described above and reassemble  your group using the tool. then leaving the tool in place,simply insert the trigger group into the  reciever...............I know, easier said than done 

[cbxboy]

Gooser,

Thanks a ton for the Schematics.... and the tips.  Great minds think alike.  I was thinking about making a "pin" to help with the reassembly portion as well.  I was getting kind of lazy and thinking I'd have Braztech send a replacement or 2 and then they are perfect huh?  Cut to length and be done.

I'll get this together again someday, I haven't been worried about going too fast, just do it before I forget     That one spring is my bain to getting it all done.

Tim   

[gooser]

Glad I could help out. 

[cbxboy]

Gooser and all,

I have abandon the idea of doing this myself.  Here is why, I called Braztech Customer relations this morning (finally) and asked how much.  He responded FREE.  I said HUH?  "I didn't send in any warranty cards etc"  he said I don't care.....send it and we will fix it up for free if you have all the parts.

I was FLOORED by this ...... quite impressed.

SO to TOP IT OFF I asked how I pay ship both ways......he said DON"T I only need to pay to get it there.  They pay return ship.

I was/am shocked.  I haven't had such good PR in quite awhile.  I have 3 Rossi's and think I'll go find that one in 30.06 as well.  Why not???  For less than $225 total I can have a single shot with a nice 3x9x50 on top which does great groupings.  All 3 of mine shoot well.  I may get a bum someday but not yet!!!