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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2008, 04:57:05 PM »
I guess myself to overturn Roe VS Wade, I'd give a jury pardon to anyone who commited a crime against an abortion clinic or doctor. Simple country boy justice.
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2008, 04:09:32 AM »
After this bailout you won't have to worry about your gun's.  I don't think you will be able to afford to shoot them.

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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2008, 07:27:18 AM »
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I will blame him just as I did before.

And THAT would be most ignorant.   ::)
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2008, 08:19:00 AM »
They did hold the majority for a while, but that does not explain how the President would overturn RBW, as stated before when the Rep. Congress passed the partial birth ban, a Judge overturned it.

So again I ask, how would the Pres. do this alone & by what legal means?

For the record, I know how laws are passed and I know there are, and should be more, limitations to the power the president holds. I just find it funny that he can jump through hoops and declare war without congress, but he can't make it illegal to kill babies.  I guess he can break the law to end lives, just not save them. 

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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2008, 09:37:02 AM »
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I just find it funny that he can jump through hoops and declare war without congress

When, exactly, did this happen?   ::)
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2008, 01:48:16 PM »
GW did nothing, and that is ignorant and murderous.

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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2008, 06:43:22 PM »
GW did nothing, and that is ignorant and murderous.

Cheese

You are not being logical or factual. I am not a Bush fan, but do you think that if Congress had passed a bill that Bush would not have signed it? He said he would & again, while the Rep. were in power in Congress, they passed the partial Birth ban & he passed it & a "Judge" overturned it. Do yo actually think Congress would then try a general ban after the "judge" overturned the partial ban, why? He appointed the Judges on the Supreme Court that he was allowed to appoint. Do you know that the Socialist Demoncraps have kept him from appointing scores of lower level judges? Where is your evidence that he would have not signed an abortion ban? Now, without a bill from Congress to sign, how would this President or any other President ban abortion. By what legal means would he do it. Only by answering that can your statement have any validity. We are still waiting.

To just say he is a murderer is just like Spike Lee saying Bush blew up the levee in New Orleans. One is as logical as another.
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2008, 02:17:54 AM »
I am just trying to be contrary and radical for the sake of it, just to make a point. I understand it is mostly baseless and I am not ignorant. We are all in this together, including GW and he could be proactive but is not. He just plays the blame game.

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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2008, 04:02:02 AM »
Casull , what don't you understand ?
new laws with new wording may not get struck down .
if the buck dosen't stop with the pres. where does it stop ?
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2008, 08:32:58 AM »
When did our pres declare war w/o congress?  You have got to be kidding me.  I was only in high school when this happened and I still remember the controversy.  Guess this was before some people began noticing our country had a problem.

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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2008, 08:54:43 AM »
Check out the war powers act . He can start one but can't fund it long with out approval and support of Congress . It is often debated but stop and think , if we were being invaded or our security was at stake would you want the same debate about what to do like we are seeing on the economy ?
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2008, 12:30:15 PM »
 heather i wish we could all review every speech bush has given..
  hes always tried to do what needed to be done.. you and other liberals just buy into the medias and the movie makers con totally..
 it is the great deception of our time..i wonder sometimes how the man achieved anything with liberal congress an media, trying to make him appear wrong at every turn..oh an by the way that war that was such a disaster has somehow been pretty close to won even tho the media would never admit it.. no president is perfect .. but if hes an conservative hes sentenced to 4 yrs of very biased reporting ..
 actually they criticise the democrat president also,, as they would rather see our whole system fail and full blown socialism replace it..you have the right to totally disagree heather.. i expect you to..
 don t let this hard won and kept right,, be lost to those who just plain want some form of village,commune, socialistic gov ..
 if it happens .. you deserve what you wanted and i do also for not doing enough to stop individual rights and pursuit of happiness from being lost in this country..im gonna vote but this is really in the creators hands ..jmo.. seems like it might be our time to mourn the loss of individual freedom..

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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2008, 03:13:55 PM »
Now back to the subject, If you are silly enough to believe that the @nd amendment will be safe under Barrak Hussien Obama, you might consider sending you chidren to daycare with a sex offender. :D :D
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2008, 04:10:21 PM »
I am just trying to be contrary and radical for the sake of it, just to make a point. I understand it is mostly baseless and I am not ignorant. We are all in this together, including GW and he could be proactive but is not. He just plays the blame game.

Cheese

Aside from abortion, I agree with you. On given issues most of them play that game.
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2008, 04:12:08 PM »
Now back to the subject, If you are silly enough to believe that the @nd amendment will be safe under Barrak Hussien Obama, you might consider sending you chidren to daycare with a sex offender. :D :D

I don't think anyone can believe that, at least I hope not! If they do, wow! ::)
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2008, 04:57:08 AM »
Believe me, there's many out there that feel "he'd never touch our guns. Shucks, it's just a hunting rifle."

You'll have gun owners supporting him just as there are evangelical Christians that support him  :o  ::)
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2008, 08:15:47 AM »
Did he not say we should only have single shots ? or agreeded with the UN as to such ?
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2008, 10:34:27 AM »
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Casull , what don't you understand ?
new laws with new wording may not get struck down .
if the buck dosen't stop with the pres. where does it stop ?

I don't care how it's worded, no law banning abortion is going to pass the SCOTUS until we have at least one or two more conservatives that might overturn Roe v. Wade.  What part of that don't you understand?
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Re: Hey, the 2nd will be safe under Obama
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2008, 11:01:28 AM »
Oh i understand your words , just don't agree !
but that's nothing to worry about !
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