Sig Sauer DA/SA or DAK triggers?

[NYH1]

My wife is in the process of getting her pistol permit. She isn't going to get a carry permit, just a permit that will allow her to possess to and from the range and possess in the house. She has no desire to carry.

She doesn't like my Glocks. They don't fit her well. She likes my SW1911, but still wants to look at as many pistols as she can. She has looked at a few Sigs P226 and P229, she is leaning towards a 9mm but has looked at the P220 too. She is going to look at a bunch more. The question with Sig's is the different triggers available. She likes the idea of the long DA/SA trigger pull for the first shot followed by a short trigger pull thereafter. Neither one of use has ever used the DAK trigger system.

What are the pro's and con's of both the DA/SA and the DAK trigger systems? It's my understanding that the DA/SA triggers don't have a manual safety but rather a decocking lever instead. Is that correct? How do the DAK triggers compare to the Glock triggers? Is one of the Sig's trigger systems more reliable then the other?

Thanks!

[jhm]

Both of my sig's are dak/sa the 239 which I carry on a daily basis and I have a 229 which I have tried to carry concelled however I dislike the extra thickness of the grip for ccw, If she is looking at a 9mm have her take a look at the 239 it is a little smaller than the 226/229.  And the reason I like the da/sa is I like the option of being able to cock the weapon for a much accurate 1st. shot.   Jim

[Empty Quiver]

   The DAK trigger is a Glock like trigger, not the same by any means but that is as easy a way to explain it as any. It is preferable to a straight DA trigger which is also available, at a lower cost. The DAK has a different trigger reset compared to the DA as well as a lighter not as stacky pull. DAK is a DA style same pull every pull trigger though. The DA/SA with a decocker has a learning curve of two distinctly different pulls on the trigger. The decocker also requires a deliberate action to safe the pistol whereas DAK or DA only require a release of trigger to return weapon to a safe condition.


    Spending several hundred rounds at the range using a DA/SA as a DA by decocking every shot will easily train one to decock as well as train on the tougher trigger pull.  Many more knowledgeable shooters than I prefer the DAK to all other triggers. I have never shot one, only dry fire. You may want to try a P250 as it has a trigger feel all it's own, a long rather light smooth pulling DA.


    Something that Sig also has available is a short trigger for most models, which can really make a difference for people with short fingers. A P239 is a good suggestion it is a single stacked mag, with a nice narrow grip like a 1911. It is all metal so it soaks up recoil nicely, but is a smaller size gun somewhere between a G19 and the baby Glock.  Yep a SAS P239 in 9mm with the DAK trigger (SAS is the dehorned wood grip model) that would be my rec'y to try next.


    All the Sig triggers are reliable, generally speaking they are smooth and get better with use.

[VARMONTER]

DAK or double action Kellerman.
There is actually two distinct trigger pulls in the Dak.
The original is about 6.5 lbs.After that there is a shorter release point that allows the shooter to
pull again at about an 8lb pull.This is accomplished by a second fulcrum point internally allowing a
shorter reset or quicker second shot . Here is a paste from an article in shooting times.
I have a p239 sas dak in .40 sw (daily carry) ..I love this trigger system.

After initial firing, the shooter can control the trigger reset either to an intermediate point with a shorter pull distance and two-pound heavier weight (the trigger bar intersects the hammer arm closer to the pivot point) or fully reset to the original longer and lighter weight position.

Externally, the only visible difference between a SIG DAK mechanism and a conventional SIG DAO mechanism is that the DAK trigger has a slightly slimmer profile and the DAK hammer sits completely within the frame when at rest, while the DAO hammer protrudes slightly. Other attractive features include the fact that the slide must be locked back and the magazine removed to disassemble, and it can be disassembled without having to pull the trigger.

[Tonk]

My wife has owned 2 Sig P-239's, both DA/SA action and still does own and shoots a Sig Sauer P-239 in the all black version. She had an SAS model too but didn't like the shinny look of the top slide later, while shooting it at the range in the bright sun.

Now the first shot out of both her P-239 models (.40cal) was at a 10-lb trigger pull, this is factory set by Sig. The next series of shots were all at 4.5-lbs of trigger pull. It does take a lot of shooting this type of pistol to become proficient hitting the target on the first shot. Most women and some men, have a tendency to pull the barrel downward, while pulling the double action trigger back on the first shot, then a surprise comes on the second shot, as it is much easier to pull. A lot of range time and one can sort things out but NOT if you fire other pistols with different trigger pulls too!

The Sig P-239 is a very well made pistols but takes sum getting used to with first time pistol shooters and the initial first pull is something that must be mastered by women who sometimes struggle with a 10-lb trigger pull. Sig does do a "spring job" which will lighten the first shot DA pull down to 8-lbs but a good gunsmith can take it down further.