New Remington brass 6mm Rem

[Brithunter]

Hi All,

     My new Remington brass in 6mm Rem finally showed up and first thing I noticed is the new plastic bag packaging. The first lot came in a clear plastic bag holdign 100 pieces now it's in a fancy Green plastic bag holding 50 pieces and the price has gone up  However I had tp s,ile at the back of the packaging which proudly claims that:-

Remington reloading components are the finest available for top quality handloads

I added the italics on finest 

Some claim that. Now I hope this lot proves better than the original lot which has not been very long lived and before soemone asks why I brought a second lot  that's because they are the only ones I seem to be able to get as 6mm Remington is not a popular cartridge here.

The plan is to take 20 pieces of brass size, trim and weigh so that theya ll weigh the same and use just these 20 pieces of brass and log the number of loads, times requiring trimming before they too show signs of failure. Looking at the new brass in the bag, as yet unopened , I notice tha some of the necks have a coppery hue  but no signs of annealing? and wonder if it would be a good idea to anneal?

Ahh a thought just occured  why don't I anneal 10 of the 20 cases and see if they lst longer than the ones not treated?

Comments? thoughts?

[wncchester]

It would be good to FL size and trim all the brass to the same length before weighting.  Then trim them to no more than .010" shorter than max.  I would want to weigh ALL the cases and segregate them into three or four piles that are near the same, not identical.  Given the accuracy limits of factory rifles, getting too picky with brass is pointless.

You can be assurred that the case necks were annealed during manufactoring.  No need to do so now and, if not done correctly, it's very easy to do more damage than help.  Wait until the necks are getting too hard and then anneal so even if you mess up you won't lose much.  How long the necks will last largely depends on the dimensions of the necks in your chamber and size die.

Remington brass, bullets, powders and bullets are all very good but they are made for hunting, not intended for the Bench Rest crowd.  The cases are made in huge lots and forming dies do wear so it's not all identical.  The price is sufficently low that I don't mind selecting the very best cases for serious work and then use the others for play and short range shooting.

The .244/6mm Remington is a fine round.

[Swampman]

The 6mm Rem is not very popular here in the US either.  The .243 Winchester pretty much killed it.  I've been buying a lot of new Remington ammo and the brass has worked fine.  I usually just buy loaded ammo and reuse the brass because Remington ammo is cheap.


I agree that "Remington reloading components are the finest available for top quality handloads."

You just can't beat Remington products. 

[yooper77]

Not much different from your other post.
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,152712.msg1098647707.html#msg1098647707

I second the 6mm Remington not being very popular, I shoot the 243 Winchester which is 95% as much.  Some people do use the 6mm Remington with good success.

Remington brass is very high quality and Yes, it’s been annealed, it’s part of the forming process.

All the Remington rifle brass I have bought in the old or new green bags have been 100 pieces per bag.  100 each 30-06 Springfield was $28.49 from Cabelas 3 months ago, now they are $31.99.  I have bought Remington brass in the past in the all clear bags, the change to the green bags are probably for attractive store displays and marketing.

coppery hue?  Brass is any alloy of copper and zinc.

If your prices are correct, I am glad to see Remington is actually collecting that kind of mark up in the UK.

In London last year, I paid $30.00 USD for 2 pint beers for my wife and me and 3 scoops of ice cream for my child at a restaurant.

yooper77

[HL]

I've been using a 6mm since 1968. There's nothing in Texas you can't take with the 6mm. Low recoil and accurate as all get out. I also shoot a 7mag and 308 norma, but the 6mm is just plain good and fun to shoot.

The brass you get new, is already annealed, so I wouldn't waste the time doing it again.

[Brithunter]

Not much different from your other post.
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,152712.msg1098647707.html#msg1098647707

I second the 6mm Remington not being very popular, I shoot the 243 Winchester which is 95% as much.  Some people do use the 6mm Remington with good success.

Remington brass is very high quality and Yes, it’s been annealed, it’s part of the forming process.

All the Remington rifle brass I have bought in the old or new green bags have been 100 pieces per bag.  100 each 30-06 Springfield was $28.49 from Cabelas 3 months ago, now they are $31.99.  I have bought Remington brass in the past in the all clear bags, the change to the green bags are probably for attractive store displays and marketing.

coppery hue?  Brass is any alloy of copper and zinc.

If your prices are correct, I am glad to see Remington is actually collecting that kind of mark up in the UK.

In London last year, I paid $30.00 USD for 2 pint beers for my wife and me and 3 scoops of ice cream for my child at a restaurant.

yooper77

  Thank you all for your comments  I have brougth quite a bit of new unprimed brass over the years but this is the first time I have seen such a coppery colour on brass, new brass that is, tarnished brass is a different matter  the store display for the bags seems right as the bags are so designed so that they can stand in their base on a shelf, hadn't noticed this when I psted this a couple of days ago  .

If your prices are correct, I am glad to see Remington is actually collecting that kind of mark up in the UK.

In London last year, I paid $30.00 USD for 2 pint beers for my wife and me and 3 scoops of ice cream for my child at a restaurant.

Unfortuneatly the prices are correct  although I have this horrible feeling that Remington might not be getting the extra, Mr Brown will be taking his cut in import taxes and VAT however it is the Importer who seems to be making the huge mark up  and it's no surprise they fairly recently built a new multi million pound facility, sure they have to make a profit but I am sure they are putting excessive mark ups on the good they handle  . As for prices in London  yep they rip you off but all I can say is that the likely hood of those doing it being English are slim as there are not many English left in London  about 75% of the folks in London are not English, heck a lot are not from the UK period  . They try to rip every on off especially central London arround the tourist areas like the Thames, Tower of London, Hyde Park etc please don't judge us all on those low lifes.

Yes I did post in two forums to get the best chances of good responses and information  .

Remington brass, bullets, powders and bullets are all very good but they are made for hunting, not intended for the Bench Rest crowd.  The cases are made in huge lots and forming dies do wear so it's not all identical.  The price is sufficently low that I don't mind selecting the very best cases for serious work and then use the others for play and short range shooting.

I only wish they were low priced  sarry to say there are not here. The same importer quoted me $242 US for 100 rds of factory Remington Express 6mm ammunition about a year ago which is why I didn't buy any plus I doubt they had any in stock. The rifle in question is a heavy barreled varmint rifle and should be capapble of producing fine accuracy. however this has not been the case but I cannot fathom out why, it's been re-bedded and has a floated barrel (floated originally from factory and glass bedded but some previous owner had mucked with it  ) trigger is et up with no creep at around 2 1/2lbs weight and I have tried at least 3 different scopes on it plus two different mount set ups yet so far have not got the accuracy 1/2-3/4MOA which I would expect from such a rifle  .

Oh I always size new brass  and I trim to the length recommended in the manuals (Hodgdon, Speer, Vhit) this time I will weigh the brass after trimming and sort out into lots so that I have 20 cases as identical as I can find and use them for testing. Once I finally  get a good accurate consistant load them I can think about taking it hunting.

[wncchester]

"...importer quoted me $242 US for 100 rds of factory Remington Express 6mm ammunition..."

Oh, my God.  That's maybe 2 or 2 1/2 times what I would expect to pay for it here.  Sorry.  It's a mess this side of the Atlantic but even with the current politically driven credit mess we aren't that bad!  But, if Ob and Biden get in, taxes and gun regulations may well be just as bad here within the foreseeable future. 

Ob will raise taxes as if we were 57 states!  An Biden will work to be time traveled back to 1929 so he can get on TV to help FDR warn people about what's going on with the big bad corporations!