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WHO PICKED PALIN?
« on: September 30, 2008, 07:18:35 AM »
   How did Palin get on the ticket with McCain?  Did he choose her when the GOP wouldn't go along with his choice,Lieberman?  If McCain couldn't have Lieberman, and didn't want Romney or Pawlenty, did he do a knee-jerk and opt for Palin? That would fit HIS pattern but what was the GOP reaction? I wonder if she is having second thoughts about getting into this shark-pool? She's ambitious but is limited in her previous exposure to THIS level of warfare. She is a good person who is going to be hammered by the realities as well as all the special-interest groups which,up to now ,she has only read about! 2 things are tied together that scream for the Republican pair to be defeated, McCain's age and her lack of experience.Talk about "One heartbeat away from the Presidency of the USA" It is scary! There isn't a major industry in the whole world that would select a CEO or even a division head ,heck, even a department head on her qualifications! She could do better than "w" though with the same string pullers. Who are the puppetmasters anyway? George,it's time to empty your shoe again!

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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 08:36:13 AM »
Whoever it was they are pretty smart.  She's about the only chance we have of keeping Osama out of office.
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2008, 09:01:44 AM »
I think the question you should ask yourself is... "Who has more experience, Palin, or Obama?"

Palin has had WAY more experience at running a state as governor, and a town as mail, than Obama has had in his 140sum odd days as a senator.

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2008, 09:14:14 AM »
I'd rather risk a somewhat inexperienced American capitalist being one heartbeat away from the presidency rather than having a slightly more experienced Euro-Marxist drawing EVERY heartbeat of the presidency. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 09:16:37 AM »
exactly where is obamas experience, has he ever had a job?
Palin can fish and kill moose that puts her ahead of obama, has he ever had a
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She is Gov. of Alaska and has been a mayor has obama ever had a job?
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 09:25:29 AM »
2 things are tied together that scream for the Republican pair to be defeated, McCain's age and her lack of experience.Talk about "One heartbeat away from the Presidency of the USA" It is scary! There isn't a major industry in the whole world that would select a CEO or even a division head ,heck, even a department head on her qualifications!

As least she would be a heartbeat away, if Obama wins he would be the heartbeat.  Now if you want to get into Obama's qualifications...  Uh oh,  wait.....  he doesn't have qualifications to be a store manager either.

She is just as qualified as Obama is.  Maybe more so since she isn't a Lawyer, like the rest of Washington D.C. is.  I'm afraid you may be falling for the same old story that the Elites want you to consider.  There are way too many Lawyers in Politics now, and when somebody like Palin comes along it automatically discounts her if she doesn't have a Law Degree from Harvard, Yale or Princeton.  And Heaven forbid that she was a contestant in a Beauty Pageant.  (GASP)

Of all of the Candidates being considered for the highest level of public office, Palin is the only one without a Law Degree.  She is just as qualified as Billary Clinton is.  (Which is who may be behind most of the trouble Palin is being held subjected to)
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 01:15:38 PM »
   How did Palin get on the ticket with McCain?  Did he choose her when the GOP wouldn't go along with his choice,Lieberman?  If McCain couldn't have Lieberman, and didn't want Romney or Pawlenty, did he do a knee-jerk and opt for Palin? That would fit HIS pattern but what was the GOP reaction? I wonder if she is having second thoughts about getting into this shark-pool? She's ambitious but is limited in her previous exposure to THIS level of warfare. She is a good person who is going to be hammered by the realities as well as all the special-interest groups which,up to now ,she has only read about! 2 things are tied together that scream for the Republican pair to be defeated, McCain's age and her lack of experience.Talk about "One heartbeat away from the Presidency of the USA" It is scary! There isn't a major industry in the whole world that would select a CEO or even a division head ,heck, even a department head on her qualifications! She could do better than "w" though with the same string pullers. Who are the puppetmasters anyway? George,it's time to empty your shoe again!

Wait a minute here.  What foreign experience did Reagan have prior to his election?  Or Clinton or Bush Jr,?  These were all past governors of States, not foreign diplomats or admirals.  Carter at least had some foreign expericnce with the Navy, even though his foreign policy was terrible.  Just what makes someone question the foreign policy experience of an ALASKAN GOVERNOR, when compared to other governors that were elected to office?   Let's talk about her experience.  She beat a former 20 year US Senator that resigned to be Alaska's Governor and overwhelmingly beat this incumbent in the primary.  She then went on to thoroughly beat a former governor and Anchorage Mayor in the general election.  She fought her own party chairman over oil taxation disputes.  She carried an 80% popularity with her constituents in Alaska within both parties, the highest gobernatorial popularity in the entire US on the date of her selection to be VP.  Her job as Mayor and Governor mandated decisions from the highest level and not as a board member, akin to Congress.  The buck stopped with her.  Obama has the same amount of time as a Senator, as Palin has as a Governor and she at least, has accomplished something other than voting present more times that yea or nay on any issue.  She supported dividends back to the residents of Alaska for windfall profits from oil taxation, as the commodity went skyrockting price wise.  She has an open accounting of state spending and where it goes.  I think she's as eminently qualified to be President as any we have had in the last 100 years.  She is honest, not only has strong beliefs, but practices them, is not and has not been a professional politician, supports gun rights, and has middle American values.  What is the problem with this picture?  Nothing I can think of.  I think this poster has the cosmopolitan attitude like Obama, that someone from small town America isn't and couldn't, be qualified to be an elected official of the entire nation due their small mindedness.  What a crock of BS.   
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 01:27:52 PM »
Way more experience than Obama. The pres doesn't need to be an expert on everything, they need to know how to lead. Has Obama demonstrated any of those skills? Even the mayor of a small town has to be a good leader, and judging from her popularity there she was good at it.

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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2008, 01:39:04 PM »
KODY   what do  you  hope to  accomplish  here?   we  can  disgust  this  after  we  dispatch  OSAMA.  i  will  ask  you  not  to cast  any  doubt   on  our  ONLY  hope of  stopping  OBAMA NOW.    are  you  a   democrap  trying  to  Davide  and  conquer?........democrat  the  first  name  is  demo to  destroy[the 2nd amandment]
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2008, 01:58:26 PM »
Kody I don't know who the genious was that picked Sarah Palin, but it sure was a great choice.

BTW Kody, I'm still willing to give ya advice on your finances since you had said in another post that life is so bad under the Bush administration for you.
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 02:00:31 PM »
Kody this has got to be one of the less intelligent and thought out posts I've seen in a while. Hell she's more qualified than the person running for President on the other ticket so why are you making such a big deal of it? What's the motiviation here?


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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 02:07:38 PM »
KODI  we  ask  you  a  question.........
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2008, 02:24:30 PM »
Kody I don't know who the genious was that picked Sarah Palin, but it sure was a great choice.

BTW Kody, I'm still willing to give ya advice on your finances since you had said in another post that life is so bad under the Bush administration for you.

Her name was first proposed by Newt Gingrich in a talk with Rush.  It was an off the wall conjecture by Gingrich but Rush kinda pushed her name a bit more after this aside. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2008, 02:58:35 PM »
Who picked Obama?  ;D
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2008, 03:55:19 PM »
"There isn't a major industry in the whole world that would select a CEO or even a division head ,heck, even a department head on her qualifications! "

Actually, they had a couple of big wigs on TV that said they would hire Palin in a minute as their CEO....so your not entirely correct on that one.

I figure there have been governors already who jumped right into the presidents spot...skipped the VP altogether...since it has already happened numerous times,  it kind of puts the damper on the experience thing...don't it?

And finally, since Obama has less experience than all of them, I think eveyone needs to forget about this qualification thing. 

Besides...she actually did some reform already...the other guys just talk about doing it.  That in itself puts her one notch up over the rest. 



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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2008, 04:47:04 PM »
Thank you deltec for the ONLY answer I received vs. 13 opinions. Nearly all of those opinions and your answer attacked Obama . Now that's a stretch worthy of any politician, but it was an uncomplicated question that could be answered with facts I could learn from or opinions which we all have ,just as we all have---    Anyway, you did have a rethink and also went the opinion route. Billy offered me finances--no, it was financial advice but I'm not sure of his qualification and will ask him for his resume and fees.Im not hurting financially from this administration ,so far, we'll see when all the shoes have dropped.Greybeard saw a lack of intelligence , stated his belief that I hadn't thought out my post,and questioned my motivation. WELLLLL that's coming from the top so it is one set of questions I WILL try to answer.  In reverse order; My motivation was to learn how Palin ,whom I had never heard of , got picked. I heard all kinds of stories, non of which I had any means of veryfiing .I condensed and ran that list in my post. I wanted to know as much of the truth as I could find. You, being from Alaska had a lot of facts to share and you did ,and I thank you again. As far as thinking out these posts ,I feel I did quite well ,other than asking a question that seemed to offend people just by asking???  That might indicate the lack of intelligence, but if you were to read all of the opinions too , well, I am way at the back of that line. DAMMIT that's an opinion too and we all know what that's worth !   I never ONCE called anybody a babykiller!  Jimster:well stated, more opinions but some good facts too,a regular breath of fresh air.

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2008, 05:16:34 PM »
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Thank you deltec for the ONLY answer I received vs. 13 opinions. Nearly all of those opinions and your answer attacked Obama


Kody, might be because you didn't just ask a question, but rather asked a question loaded with your OWN OPINIONS.  Next time if you don't want opinions, don't load your questions that way.   ::) ::)
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2008, 05:18:20 PM »
I am glad that I did not offer an opinion, but asked a question, whew!  :D
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2008, 06:23:29 PM »
Her name was tossed into the ring due her high popularity as governor and her accomplishments for the short time in office against all political machinery odds.  Those in the political arena have to wonder how she did this without major university education or political background and pull.  Naturally her opposition to some in her own party could not have gone unnoticed by those with the experience and political machinery behind them not to.  The answer was her committment for better government, smaller government and government by the people.  She is a Maverick politician hockey mom that wants a better world for her children without the excessive tax burden placed on them through government.  She is an outdoors person who has worked hard for her success, much like most conservative middle America, which she can easily relate to with conviction.  My intent was not to criticize your post so much, as to enlighten those that had no idea what and where she stood, especially in light of the media's smear campaign supported by Obama and the Democratic party.   Obama's cosmopolitan comments and attitude toward Palin on her selection, indicated a bigger and holier than though attitude, which your post alluded to and irritated me.  Naturally I stood my ground and defended her right and correct positon to accept the VP slot on the Republican ticket.  There is much more that I can relate with complete honesty with regard to Palin but the post would be too long for most to read thoroughly.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2008, 09:27:39 PM »
First, she has just as much if not more experience than ANY of the other three running for office.  NONE of the other three have any experience (that I know of) as a chief executive of anything at any level of government.  None of the other three have any experience as a CinC of any type of military unit.  At least McCain has military experience.  Biden has been in Congress for most of his adult years and has accomplished nothing.  Not once has his "leadership and experience" led to a balanced budget.  He has no foreign policy experience.  Senators don't set foreign policy.  Obama has zip experience in anything.  He has been in the Senate about the same amount of time that Palin has been governer.  We all know how much responsibility is given to junior Senator's right???

Second, who has knowledge of foreign policy, dealing with terrorists, economics on a national (and global) level, etc?  NO ONE PERSON has all of that experience.  They ALL have to read up on it.  That is how they learn about it.

Third, that's what experts are for.  That's why you hire a SecState, a SecDef, Cabinet members etc.  You hire experts to advise you.  They hire experts to study, learn and give advise to them.

The President just has to be able to make the decisions...  he/she is NOT an expert, just a decision maker.


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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2008, 12:57:39 AM »
OK   good  question     WHO PICKED PALIN?       but  then  you  suggested   it  may    just   be  a  KNEE-JERK PATTERN  and  made  several  other negative comment        .....as Greybeard  and  i  ask  WHAT  DO  YOU  HOPE  TO ACCOMPLISH ?          i  don't  think  i will  waste  another  minute  on  your thread ..except  to  see  if   you  can  answer  a  simple question..something  you are ashamed  to  do......who  picked Palin?   good  question [good choice]   a  simple  question   that  would  have  a  simple  answer  had  you  not  used  this  space  to  bash  her , McCain   and  the  republicans.........WHY  DIDNT YO  JUST  ASK  INSTERD  OF  THE  ADLIB?
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2008, 03:34:30 AM »
cause he is a wingnut.

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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2008, 04:22:23 AM »
I'm sorry Kody, but if you have access to the internet to make this post, you have access to www.google.com
This is a search engine that will give you the available links to articles to answer your questions...

So, go to www.google.com, type in "HOW DID SARAH PALIN BECOME VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR REPUBLICAN PARTY?" and then start reading...

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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2008, 05:02:03 AM »
Hey Kody, there is so much crap flying around the internet on ALL the candidates...in order to learn more about Palin I had to search all news before 2008....I actually did hear of her before she got picked for VP...but not a whole lot.  Bottom line is...it's election season, and it's hunting season for the candidates, especially Palin, since she poses the MOST threat to the opposing party...that's my take on it.  There are good news articles on her from 2005 to 2008....people got the boot in government....and it did not make her all that popular with either party...or the press.  People in high places are aiming at her for sure.
Don't know if she can hold up under that,  hope so...


There are those who have much more education....Harvard, Yale...that does not mean much to a guy like me,  they don't teach good judgement and logic at those places.

If McCain wins...Palin can be briefed on all that is going on, same as Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and many other governors that walked into the presidents seat.  Judgement and the ability to do things that are not popular is what is really needed for a leader IMO.   There is no way any person will make the ALL the people happy, because half the people do not agree with the other half....so I guess a leader need to get ready to be boo'd...no matter what.

I decided a while back I did not care about experience on foreign policy....there are 535 people in Congress and the secretary of defense to help give advice....just like they always do for any president, or VP that steps up to the plate.  Actually...experience...hasn't been working so far anyways....has it?  LOL!

take it all with a truck load of salt....if I had my way, I'd fill Congress up with at least 500 people from all over the country, right out of factories,  out of small businesses,  small town people, farmers...
and I assure you they would be plenty smart enough compared to what we have had.

It does not take that much smarts to be logical and serve the people. 
We don't need more "experience"   my opinion...they will vary






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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2008, 06:28:47 AM »
Upon being elected Governor, the first thing Sara Palin did was undo the firing of Tom Irwin, placing him back as the Chief Of Dept Of Natural Resources.  She also gave him his marching orders to pull the gas leases at Point Thompson.  Big Oil took her to court and lost.

Now to explain that to non Alaskans.  Previous Governor Frank Murkowski fired Tom Irwin for bringing up the point that Big Oil had not followed up with the terms of their leases, by not producing the Natural Gas and bringing it to market. Big oil had been sitting on those leases for over thirty years.  Therefore the leases should be revoked.  Big Oil screamed and Tom Irwin was fired.  When Tom pulled the leases, BP and Exxon Mobil screamed, Sara smiled.  Big Oil said we will take you to court and keep this tied up for decades!  Sara smiled, then told the State Attorney General what she wanted to do.  The State won, leases were pulled, and negotiations were started for a pipeline company to bring Point Thompson Gas to Alaskans, and on to the lower 48. 

Not only did she beat Frank Murkowski by a landslide during the primary, she beat the Democrats the same way during the general election.  Andrew Halcrow a Democrate running for Governor was trounced so bad he is looking for revenge.  Sara as a peace offering to the dems hired Walt Monagan as the Cheif Of Public Safety, with strict instructions to hire 50 new Troopers.  Sara also said to stop the overtime pay, that helped increase the troopers retirement pay.  Monagan did not follow instructions, he bowed to the union and used the money she gave him to hire new troopers to pay overtime for Troopers.  By doing that he helped the Troopers raise their pay and the amount that is used to calculate their retirement pay.  She fired him, end of story, till Andrew Halcrow started blogging and built something out of nothing.  Hence Troopergate.  And with the quite backing of Big Oil, the propaganda machine is alive and well.

But, if the people of the US are too stupid to see through all the lies and smears, your loss.  Send her back, we can really use her here.    
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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2008, 10:39:15 AM »
You wrote it better than I did and more concise.  Good post, Sourdough.
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« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2008, 12:13:19 PM »
I think Palin was picked for her sex appeal for the male vote.

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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2008, 12:34:16 PM »
I think Sarah was picked for McCain's running mate because McCain knew I would not vote for him, but MIGHT vote for Sarah. Oh, and by the way. Might (mite) is a little bitty bug on a chicken.
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2008, 12:41:08 PM »
Dee: I think you are right.
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2008, 01:05:25 PM »
better to ask who picked bidden this is the guy whos favorite brag is "I wrote the assault weapon ban"
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