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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2008, 01:17:15 PM »
Well Palin will have her chance to shine tonight in the debate.  Let's just hope she speaks her own mind and not what her advisers told her to say.  She will do muuucccchhhh better that way.

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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2008, 01:50:20 PM »
Well Palin will have her chance to shine tonight in the debate.  Let's just hope she speaks her own mind and not what her advisers told her to say.  She will do muuucccchhhh better that way.

+1 Heather, and don't worry, she will shine, shine, shine. She is going to sound like Socrates compared to that Joe Biden.
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2008, 05:50:55 PM »
Who picked any of them?  The power in this country is the group that decides who will run, and who will get talked about in the media. You get to validate their choices.  Who picked Palin is a good question.

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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2008, 05:55:54 PM »
Kody, maybe you understand better if you watched the debate, what a buttkicking!!  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2008, 06:35:58 PM »
Sara did good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2008, 06:44:02 PM »
Well, this should stop the critics from saying she's not qualified to debate against Washington insiders.  This is the Palin we know up here.  She connected with the people and made her points with class, satire, and Main St American values so important in this election.  She gave better than she got. 
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2008, 01:10:09 AM »
she kicked @$$!  i was riled up after watching her last night.  if'n mccain wants to win, they need to unleash this woman.

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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2008, 04:30:55 AM »
KODY    still  hasn't told us  what  his motivation is     [i  think he  is a closet democrat]
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2008, 05:01:08 AM »
KODY    still  hasn't told us  what  his motivation is     [i  think he  is a closet democrat]

If you were a Dem, wouldn't you be ashamed? I know there are some folks in my area that are going to vote
for that thug, they are on Gov aid & they only think of themselves. So, if it means just a $100.00 more per month in cash or benefits they will sell their birthright in a minute. Of course there are some Libs who are "saving" the planet, I am just refering to some of the folks around here who are ashamed to say they will
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2008, 06:20:57 AM »
My condolences to Gov. Palin. She deserved a better partner to run with. When McCain votes YES to the bail out he lost his slim chance of getting into the WH. That was the chance he had of voting in the interest of the taxpayers and distance himself from the Bush Admin. and Obama. He blew it Big Time.  Very Sad !!
Every Senator and Congressmen that voted yes should not have a chance to EVER get reelected IMO.
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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2008, 06:40:40 AM »
45-70 govt. .....my  agreement  with  you  is  overpowered by  my contempt  for OBAMA  and  the democrats......by the  way   that  is  a  catchy name you  have  here
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2008, 10:22:41 AM »
Who picked Palin..? That would be McCain's chief financier of course.  Cindy had her hands all over his pick.

...TM7

Obviously in error again without any knowledge.  If one looks at the beginning of the VP choices under conjecture, it was Newt Gingrich in conversation with Rush Limbaugh, who first brought her name to national attention.  Rush went further on his radio program and attempted to gather support for her selection.  It was not Cindy, though once Sarah's name was under serious consideration, I'm sure she probably put in her tcw.
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2008, 12:56:55 PM »
I guess I'm fortunate.  I'm married to same woman for over 37 years.  Neither have been married before.  We still like one another and live remotely for months, without seeing anyone except each other.  I wonder if many can say the same.  She also has her own commercial fishing permit and commercially fishes.  So where does the money go.  Into the same account jointly.  WE both worked for it, so we both spend it from the same account, or transfer from one checking into the others as need arises.  I talk to her regarding decisions, but in most families there is always going to be a time when disagreements happen.  I make the final decison for the welfare of my family, as this my cultural background through heredity.  Please enlighten me as to the inside knowledge, where Cindy proposed, demanded, and bullied McCain into selection of Palin with facts, instead of one would be writer and non Alaskan fishing crew member in Bristol Bay.   Maybe one could be found on 9/11 Fact.  How's that for humor.
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2008, 01:12:12 PM »
Palin is throwing heavy punches!!! :D :D :D :D :D


Palin says Obama pals with 'terrorists'

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin slammed Sen. Barack Obama's acquaintance with a former anti-war radical on Saturday, accusing him of associating "with terrorists who targeted their own country." Palin's comment delivered on the McCain campaign's announcement that it would step up attacks on the Democratic presidential candidate.

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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2008, 03:22:56 PM »
Deltecs...
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Please enlighten me as to the inside knowledge, where Cindy proposed, demanded, and bullied McCain into selection of Palin with facts,
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I never said or impuned that...your obvious distortion of what I said.  You need to get out and see more people.  I said Cindy had her hands all over the pick. No,, I'm not going to devulge my sources. It doesn't matter that much to me.  What matters to me is Palin's politrics and views on things. Also important that not everybody has Palin star dust in their eyes.

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Heather....I reckon in the next few weeks you will see why Palin has been 'tapped' for her position and the dark side..watch what topics they give her to focus people on.  Are you ready for the PPP.?

...TM7
Who picked Palin..? That would be McCain's chief financier of course.  Cindy had her hands all over his pick.

...TM7

Obviously in error again without any knowledge.  If one looks at the beginning of the VP choices under conjecture, it was Newt Gingrich in conversation with Rush Limbaugh, who first brought her name to national attention.  Rush went further on his radio program and attempted to gather support for her selection.  It was not Cindy, though once Sarah's name was under serious consideration, I'm sure she probably put in her tcw.
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You're obviously too logical and lacking humor; and obviously incorrect. Don't care what Newt and blowhard Rush said....no body in the GOP gives Rush much concern so long as he continues to pound out the GOP talking point memos day in day out till listeners are numbed, and he stays off dope to remain half creditable.

You married..?  Cindy had the final say ... cause she pays the bills, too....jmo


.....TM7

You stated that I was incorrect in my previous post, so I attempted to enlighten you with the truth.  Then you did impune it by stating categorically I was incorrect, without any facts to support this conclusion.  I'm just posting your words and comments, which obviously conflicts with Palin's popularity in comparison with your preferred choice in Ron Paul.  Not everyone agrees with Ron Paul or his party platform regarding isolationist policies.  That does not mean that my beliefs are any less conservative than others.  Paul may be a Rep in name but like Liebermann an Independent, neither are their true political philosophy. 
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2008, 03:38:45 PM »
This is about the 12th time you have incorrectly called RP and isolationist. He is not..he is all for normalized non-interventionist honest relations and trade.. You see not wanting to empire build, not wanting to export the euphimistic 'democracy', not invading and occupying foreign countries, not cooking intell, not engaging in covert or other pre-emptive strike, not beleiveing in some tribber mytholgy, not having military in 135 countries, and not exporting billions of taxpayer dollars from our debt ridden coffers does not make anyone an isolationist...IT MAKES YOU A SANE STATESMAN AND AMERICA 1ST BUILDER. On the other hand doing all these things, and more, makes you at best (by default) a nutcase radical; and at worst a treasonous anti-american.

...TM7

I hope to meet you someday and then will show you a true treasonous anti American.  Your choice of weapons.  Don't try brains cause I wouldn't want to waste the 2 points of IQ it would take to kick your ass.  Your personal attacks are much akin to Pauls philosophy and yours that you hate so much
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« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2008, 03:49:01 PM »
Your comments are the same as Obamas campaign rhetoric.  It isn't his fault, he is a liar and con man.  I'm going to be in Texas on the 24 th of Nov.  I'll be glad to meet you anywhere in the Dallas area.  And just what is the difference in an isolationist than what you posted was the polical policy of Paul?  It is one and the same to me.  Or is it semantics in verbage and you didn't mean it that way?
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2008, 06:05:24 PM »
Heather....I reckon in the next few weeks you will see why Palin has been 'tapped' for her position and the dark side..watch what topics they give her to focus people on.  Are you ready for the PPP.?

...TM7


PPP?? What's that?

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« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2008, 06:08:54 PM »
Your comments are the same as Obamas campaign rhetoric.  It isn't his fault, he is a liar and con man.  I'm going to be in Texas on the 24 th of Nov.  I'll be glad to meet you anywhere in the Dallas area.  And just what is the difference in an isolationist than what you posted was the polical policy of Paul?  It is one and the same to me.  Or is it semantics in verbage and you didn't mean it that way?

 It is clear that you got your ideas of RP's views on foreign policy from Bill O of one of the other media puppets. Why not take a few minutes and read the mans views from his own website so that it get it from the horses mouth and not the horses ass as you do now.

I will make it easy for you here is a link... http://www.campaignforliberty.com/


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« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2008, 07:07:12 PM »
Your comments are the same as Obamas campaign rhetoric.  It isn't his fault, he is a liar and con man.  I'm going to be in Texas on the 24 th of Nov.  I'll be glad to meet you anywhere in the Dallas area.  And just what is the difference in an isolationist than what you posted was the polical policy of Paul?  It is one and the same to me.  Or is it semantics in verbage and you didn't mean it that way?

 It is clear that you got your ideas of RP's views on foreign policy from Bill O of one of the other media puppets. Why not take a few minutes and read the mans views from his own website so that it get it from the horses mouth and not the horses ass as you do now.

I will make it easy for you here is a link... http://www.campaignforliberty.com/


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To promote and defend the great American principles of individual liberty, constitutional government, sound money, free markets, and a noninterventionist foreign policy, by means of educational and political activity.

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isolationism-A national policy of abstaining from political or economic relations with other countries.

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and a noninterventionist foreign policy, by means of educational and political activity
mean the same as the dictionary term for isolationism.  And I didn't get the info from Big O, who I generally do not watch. 

These quotes are directly from the web link and dictionary, so it is not just my perception.  It definitely has similar meaning according to the English language.  Both refrain from political intervention in foreign policy and the economics in the mission statement finishes the economic relationship.
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« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2008, 08:10:12 PM »
RP has never once tagged himself as an isolationist.... so why look it up? oh yeah cause that is the word the media used in the primary and it stuck with you... now what word did RP use? [wiki=Non-interventionism]Non-interventionism[/wiki] Yeah thats the one... so give it a look see...

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« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2008, 09:31:12 PM »
I guess it's about time to put campaign stickers on the truck.

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« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2008, 03:21:31 AM »
got  mine  friday  and  2  eard  signs
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OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
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« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2008, 09:28:46 AM »
RP has never once tagged himself as an isolationist.... so why look it up? oh yeah cause that is the word the media used in the primary and it stuck with you... now what word did RP use? [wiki=Non-interventionism]Non-interventionism[/wiki] Yeah thats the one... so give it a look see...

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Well, I haven't been to a politically correct school lately, so my interpretation of isolationism was old school from the 60's Promblems of Democracy classes.  It hasn't been until, get this, 2005 according the same encyclopedia that the term non interventionism even distinguished betweein isolationism and non interventionism.  See below for the history of the term.

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This is the United States foreign policy stance that has been advocated at various times in the country's history. George Washington, the first President advised the country to avoid "foreign entanglements". The policy of non-intervention was a serious issue for World War I, the inter-war years, and World War II.

Extreme forms of this policy take the position of isolationism.

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« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2008, 10:16:45 AM »
TM7 you'll take ANY words written ANYWHERE by ANYONE to mean whatever you wish them to even if no one else in the world other than you interpret them that way. That is one thing that is abundantly clear to me.

You seem all over the place in your posts with the only commonality being your adverse hatred for Bush and anyone remotely associated with him, your hatred of Israel and love of muslims. Beyond that for the life of me I can see no common thread try tho I might. OK I'll grant you one more you have a certain small group of folks here that no matter what they say you disagree. I think if some said the sky is nice and blue today and the grass sure is a pretty green you'd say nope that grass looks red and the sky brown to me.

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« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2008, 10:18:57 AM »
Rather than put my entire quote in your remarks make them totally bias.  The term non interventionist with its current definition is a product of very recent semantics.  I refuse to debate with someone who will not recognize the semantics of early America with those of recent definitions, much more politically correct.  Also, by not quoting the entire part, you are intentially misleading the readers that this policy is the exact policy of our founding fathers, USING TERMS THAT HAD DIFFERENT MEANING BEFORE 2005 USING THE SAME SOURCE QUOTED AS MEANING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN MY INTERPRETATION PRIOT TO 2005.  This tactic of not telling the whole truth is BS.
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« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2008, 10:24:28 AM »
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nonintervention
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) non·in·ter·ven·tion        [non-in-ter-ven-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun
1.   abstention by a nation from interference in the affairs of other nations or in those of its own political subdivisions.
2.   failure or refusal to intervene.

[Origin: 1820–30; non- + intervention]

—Related forms
non·in·ter·ven·tion·al, adjective
non·in·ter·ven·tion·al·ist, noun
non·in·ter·ven·tion·ism, noun
non·in·ter·ven·tion·ist, noun, adjective
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now for isolationism http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/isolationism

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) i·so·la·tion·ism        [ahy-suh-ley-shuh-niz-uhm, is-uh-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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the policy or doctrine of isolating one's country from the affairs of other nations by declining to enter into alliances, foreign economic commitments, international agreements, etc., seeking to devote the entire efforts of one's country to its own advancement and remain at peace by avoiding foreign entanglements and responsibilities.

[Origin: 1920–25, Americanism; isolation + -ism]

So which one of those words did you say had been around the longest?
Oh and by the way RP wants to trade with ALL nations not just those that will do what we want them to.

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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2008, 11:00:51 AM »
Look, I'm not attempting to debate the beneficial qualities of the current definition of non interventionism compared to  isolationism.  It was my interpretation that the definition between both, were as I was taught in high school, much earlier than 2005.  You pointed out that there is a definite difference in current PC regarding the two terms.  I do not disagree entirely with the current definition of non interventionism.  However, I do not think that all foreign entanglements cease and desist.  If it wasn't for Frances intervention in the Revolution, we probably would still be a British colony, regardless of France's current alliance with the US.  The Monroe doctrine prevented further colonization by European powers.  The Boxer Rebellion prevented further colonization of China, again regardless of current alliance.  Does anyone believe that the Axis alliance would not have caused many more deaths on American shores, had we not entered into agreements with Russia, Britain and many other nations?  I think diplomacy is the better choice than war.  Does anyone now with the results clearly history, believe that NATO alliance was not crucial to disrupting the spread of communism and ultimately let the economy of the world reduce the Soviet Union into bancruptcy by the use of detente?  With several nations of the world having not only the means, methods and technology to have WMD, it behooves us for our own security to have alliances that deter power grabbing governments.  I do agree that we should not be the world's policemen.  I do believe that other nations must take an equal share in the responsibility.  Only by these alliances can detente be acheived, thus permitting the economic effects to have time to do its magic.  All people are materialistic.  Those that have less than their neighbor will attempt to gain equality, thus the Jones principle.  That is why capitalism will work in developing nations and especially in those nations with stringent religious views.  That is why America is the target.  It threatens those religious leaders in power and influence among its own citizenry.  With an entirely non interventionism policy against these alliances, there is not time for the people of these nations to understand the benefits of a democracy compared to the caste mentality, dictatorial mandates by its leaders and the massive restrictive power of organized religion on them.  People are mass and it takes force from a different direction for this mass to change course.  These principles of Newton apply equally as well to people as a whole, as it does to physics.
In conclusion, I think Palin/McCain ticket to be the best choice for our country at the current time, especially when one considers Obama, the economy, exteme religious regimes, the liberal tendency of the American public that prevents construction of cheaper and cleaner energy policies, taxation and the liberals determined attacks on the 2nd Amendment.  I cannot be any clearer regarding my views.  And I certainly do not care for being called as cited
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On the other hand doing all these things, and more, makes you at best (by default) a nutcase radical; and at worst a treasonous anti-american.
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Greg lost his battle with cancer last week on April 2nd 2009. RIP Greg. We miss you.

Greg
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2008, 11:18:49 AM »
deltecs though we agree on some points there are still many more that we dont yet...
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Re: WHO PICKED PALIN?
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2008, 12:00:15 PM »
I think one of the points we can agree on, is the fundamental and individual right to arms.  My position is that without this particular recognized right, all other rights are subject to restriction, limitation, or nulified altogether.  This is also the only right that prevents or hinders government excesses or usurpation, with the means to enforce the will of the people.  Palin is a staunch pro supporter of the 2nd.
Greg lost his battle with cancer last week on April 2nd 2009. RIP Greg. We miss you.

Greg
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Detente: An armed citizenry versus a liberal society
Opinion(s) are expressly mine alone and do not necessarily agree with those of GB or GBO mgmt.