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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2008, 06:48:37 AM »
I for one can see some good come out of this.  Take Katrina for example, what did the local police do?  Most hauled AXX, the remaining few joined in the looting.  A lot of people were unable to leave because the people they were dependent on for transportation left.  With no one to help them out of town they were stranded.  The army could have gotten them out fast, and saved many lives in doing so.

The army being stationed here is not a big deal to me, we have lots of bases through out the country stationed here.  One unit being tasked with training for crowd control to be used here in the US is not a big deal either, since all it takes is the signature of the President to have them all here doing crowd control.  The Army is not my fear, it's the person at the top who has a hidden agenda that I fear.
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2008, 06:51:14 AM »
Link please heather???
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2008, 06:55:43 AM »
Link please heather???

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/cc/baker1.html

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

The first link is where I found where it is listed.  The second link is where you can find the Constitution.

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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2008, 07:06:45 AM »
I get ahead of myself sometimes.  I don't know where it is in the constitution. I can't find it anywhere.  Sorry for the misguided links.  Maybe Matt will know.

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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2008, 07:11:06 AM »
From : http://www.llrx.com/features/posse.htm

"The language of the Act calls for two instances when the Act does not apply; when an exception is expressly authorized by the Constitution, and when Congress expressly authorizes an exception. The first of these provisions has created much confusion in the application of the Act since the Constitution contains no provision expressly authorizing the use of the military to enforce the law. Much of the literature discussing the constitutional exceptions of the Act therefore focuses upon the conflict between the implied and inherent constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. "

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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2008, 07:15:43 AM »
thank you
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2008, 07:25:27 AM »
"Glad someone still remembers the constitution..."

So now that its been established, that yes, It can be illegal for the US military to be used agains its own civilians, (posse comitatus act) Where does this pertain to knowing the constitution? 

Unless were talking about the US military using US civilians homes as quarters... then it pertains... but that's off topic...
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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2008, 09:20:45 AM »
Is their any chance that "SWEET NANCY" through this out at this time just to make
people think exactly what some are thinking, the national Guard has been
POLICING storms, prison riots and the like for years why not the military.
IMHO i just can't see any riots coming from this bailout, lots of demands
yes, did you notice that the congressmen up for reelection voted no
MSN said they got over 2000 calls from people against it, you can imagine
how many the politicos got. i think Nancy is trying to use scare tactics.
At least i hope so. she has got to know what would happen if she tries
to sick the military on the American people.
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2008, 11:20:11 AM »
I don't think it was Ms. Pelosi who called in the calvary.  I don't think she has that much power.  That had to come from higher up. 

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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2008, 01:43:27 PM »
  Well the date is October 1, 2008 and ahhh wheres this martial law? As I said I was waiting and seeing. Now if and when it does come, trust me I will be the first one starting a shooting war even if I am alone in my resistence. But this was just another example of false silly internet stories being taken seriously.
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2008, 02:10:14 PM »
  Well the date is October 1, 2008 and ahhh wheres this martial law? As I said I was waiting and seeing. Now if and when it does come, trust me I will be the first one starting a shooting war even if I am alone in my resistence. But this was just another example of false silly internet stories being taken seriously.

Troops are here!!!!  They are in training
"Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks."(The Army Times)
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2008, 03:21:17 AM »
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"Troops are here!!!!  They are in training"

When My dad was in the Army during the Vietnam war, he trained for riot control.  Another friend of my fathers, got so used to spraying tear gas on protesters, that he didn't even wear a gas mask when spraying the crowd...

So really you can't say that this is the first time that US Military Troops have been trained to control riots and such...
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2008, 03:53:43 AM »
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"Troops are here!!!!  They are in training"

When My dad was in the Army during the Vietnam war, he trained for riot control.  Another friend of my fathers, got so used to spraying tear gas on protesters, that he didn't even wear a gas mask when spraying the crowd...

So really you can't say that this is the first time that US Military Troops have been trained to control riots and such...

Did I say that somewhere, or are you referring to the video, or someone else?  It seems to me that the lady in the video is reading straight from the ArmyTimes newsletter. 

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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2008, 05:02:44 AM »
For my part, I'm a lot more scared of Nancy Pilosi than I am of any of our military.  And then there's the nightmare possibility of Osama as president.  Now that's something to terrify the stoutest among us.
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2008, 05:08:54 AM »
  Well the date is October 1, 2008 and ahhh wheres this martial law? As I said I was waiting and seeing. Now if and when it does come, trust me I will be the first one starting a shooting war even if I am alone in my resistence. But this was just another example of false silly internet stories being taken seriously.

Troops are here!!!!  They are in training
"Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks."(The Army Times)
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2008, 05:17:53 AM »
  Well the date is October 1, 2008 and ahhh wheres this martial law? As I said I was waiting and seeing. Now if and when it does come, trust me I will be the first one starting a shooting war even if I am alone in my resistence. But this was just another example of false silly internet stories being taken seriously.

Troops are here!!!!  They are in training
"Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks."(The Army Times)

Thanks for clearing that up for me.  My brain doesn't work well this time of the morning.  The way I read it they are not stating that it first time, rather that is just the title of the military unit.  I won't pretend to be an Army expert or even have vast knowledge on the subject, that is just the way I interpret it.
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2008, 05:34:37 AM »
Just my humble opinion, but after 4 or more years of Obama/Biden, we will have a Supreme Court loaded with justices for whom the Constitution means whatever they want it to mean, and Posse Comitatus would not hinder a tyrannical executive branch, backed by a sympathetic congressional majority.  Life in the United Socialist States of America (USSA) could take a nasty turn.  Pray hard.

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« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2008, 01:04:58 PM »
Oct. 2, 2008, still no martial law here?

So the United States military training for domestic issues is new? Just them training is a precursor forr martial law? HMMM I musta had some incorrect recolections abour my times in the Army in the late 80's early 90's All this hooey is just hype of the over imaginitive blogger here on the web. Trust me I will be the first of the bullet throwing resistance if or when martial law is imposed on America, but none of this imagnary BS is what will bring down martial law. Heck I have a feeling I might have some fun when this starts. :D :D
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2008, 01:18:27 PM »
Oct. 2, 2008, still no martial law here?

So the United States military training for domestic issues is new? Just them training is a precursor forr martial law? HMMM I musta had some incorrect recolections abour my times in the Army in the late 80's early 90's All this hooey is just hype of the over imaginitive blogger here on the web. Trust me I will be the first of the bullet throwing resistance if or when martial law is imposed on America, but none of this imagnary BS is what will bring down martial law. Heck I have a feeling I might have some fun when this starts. :D :D
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« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2008, 01:22:38 PM »
Nope Dale I have a feeling, The American soldiers will be shooting at the same targets I am. Both my kids are enlisted in the MN National Guard.  I'll be looking for a little more of the left leaning targets. I have a great memory of where the supporters of the socialist dems live.
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Re: If you weren't scared before....Soldiers to police citizens!!!!
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2008, 01:39:44 PM »
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