accu trigger

[guzzijohn]

I am perplexed by some of the negative opinions concerning Savages and accu triggers. Can someone tell me in more specific terms why they do not like the accu trigger? I have owned and shot quite a few different rifles some with after market triggers and one with double sets. I do not see any problem with the accu trigger concerning feel, break, overtravel, etc. I think i is a great trigger setup especially from an economical stock rifle.
GuzziJohn

[Val]

I have one Savage with an accutrigger. Although I don't have a problem with the accutrigger, I find it unnecessary for me. Once a trigger is set where I like it, I don't change it. The Savage triggers prior to the accutriggers could be adjusted to eliminate creep and to lighten them. This worked just fine for me.

[R.W.Dale]

see the sig line

I'm on of the biggest savage fanboys out there, but I won't own a Savage with an unaltered accu/glock trigger.

At one time i wouldn't have owned one period, but since then us savage shooters have figured out that the appendix like glock blade can be removed leaving a flawless well engineered trigger that works as a trigger should.

[trotterlg]

The accutrigger is simply a trigger with a safety that is on until it is moved to off when you start the trigger pull.  The spring is very light and can be made lighter, after the blade is pulled back the trigger operates like any other.  It is a solution for a nice light factory trigger that they could not market without the adding this extra safety feature.  It is easliy removed with one smalll pin if you want it gone.  For a factory trigger they are very good.  Larry

[Bart Solo]

A few years ago factory rifles all had lousy triggers.  I heard somebody intone with all seriousness that after spending hundreds on a new Weathwinminguger he would immediately take it to a gunsmith to remove the lousy lawyer trigger and replace it with something else.  The reason for the lousy triggers was fear of product liability. The manufacturers were scared to death that a light trigger pull would result in an early discharge causing an injury or death. 

Savage came up with the accu trigger to gain a competitive advantage. It is sort of a trigger mounted safety. You naturally pull it as you are preparing to fire.  It is really a modern update of an old 19th century idea.  The accu trigger worked.  It became an immediate success.  The rifle industry responded by installing improved triggers on many models.  These days most new firearms still come from manufacturer with heavy trigger pulls, but the manufactures allow the user to lighten the trigger pull.  The theory is that if the user lightens the pull he takes responsibility for accidents.  Some of the manufacturers even tell you that if you lighten the pull you void the manufacturers warranty.  I just bought a new Weatherby Vanguard. It came complete with instructions for adjusting the trigger.  It still won't let me adjust the trigger below 3 1/2 pounds--which is fine by me. 

A lot of purists don't like the accu trigger because they don't want to admit that Savage came up with an "advance" that forced Weathwinminguger  to actually improve their product.  Being the fan boys they are many rifle shooters won't admit there favorite  manufacturer's product can be improved.  I would say the "dislike" is pure jealousy.  By the way my son has one of those accu trigger rifles and never has had a complaint.

[R.W.Dale]

A few years ago factory rifles all had lousy triggers.  I heard somebody intone with all seriousness that after spending hundreds on a new Weathwinminguger he would immediately take it to a gunsmith to remove the lousy lawyer trigger and replace it with something else.  The reason for the lousy triggers was fear of product liability. The manufacturers were scared to death that a light trigger pull would result in an early discharge causing an injury or death. 

Savage came up with the accu trigger to gain a competitive advantage. It is sort of a trigger mounted safety. You naturally pull it as you are preparing to fire.  It is really a modern update of an old 19th century idea.  The accu trigger worked.  It became an immediate success.  The rifle industry responded by installing improved triggers on many models.  These days most new firearms still come from manufacturer with heavy trigger pulls, but the manufactures allow the user to lighten the trigger pull.  The theory is that if the user lightens the pull he takes responsibility for accidents.  Some of the manufacturers even tell you that if you lighten the pull you void the manufacturers warranty.  I just bought a new Weatherby Vanguard. It came complete with instructions for adjusting the trigger.  It still won't let me adjust the trigger below 3 1/2 pounds--which is fine by me. 

A lot of purists don't like the accu trigger because they don't want to admit that Savage came up with an "advance" that forced Weathwinminguger  to actually improve their product.  Being the fan boys they are many rifle shooters won't admit there favorite  manufacturer's product can be improved.  I would say the "dislike" is pure jealousy.  By the way my son has one of those accu trigger rifles and never has had a complaint.

The problem with this is CZ had their EXCELLENT single set trigger out long before the savage lawyers saw a glock trigger and said "HEY! that's what we need." and on top of that the old three screw savage triggers were just as good as anything Savage has now if you spent the 15minutes it took to adjust them properly.

 The whole line that we were in the trigger dark ages till savage shone the light is pure bunk. All the accu/glock trigger did was turn an OK trigger cowering behind lawyerly trigger attachment into a successful marketing ploy.

[Bart Solo]

My comments had to do with American manufacturers.  If you remember back bitching about triggers on new rifles was damn near universal in the Remington, Winchester,  Ruger crowd.  Good trigger technology was there all along. The lawyers stopped the manufacturers.  What Savage did was break the lawyer deadlock. As I said Savage took applied old time technology, although I think they did get a patent for some part of it.   

[Swampman]

The Accu-Trigger seems too easily damaged to me.  I don't like it.  I've tried to get use to it but I can't so far.

[243dave]

Let me say this before I start, I'm no gunsmith, but I love to tinker with guns. Adjusting maybe 15 or 20 triggers definately don't qualify me as a expert, but I think I have a idea. Before the accutrigger most bolt rifles had adjustable triggers. Some were better than others. Most of my friends believed a gunsmith was needed for this, of course it wasn't for all. I always thought remington and howa had good triggers and maybe winchester and savage would adjust down safely for a varmint rifle. Ruger m-77 mark II had no screw adjustments, stoning and polishing required.   With the accutrigger now my friends believe you don't need a gunsmith because the instuctions tells us how and supplies us with the little tool to do so with, this is why the accutrigger is so nice, anyone can set it. IMO the accutrigger is much better than the old savage 2 or the 3 screw type trigger. Even the 3 screw type after adjusted so low, the safety didn't function properly. I've owned old and new savages and for me the accutrigger is a welcome change. Is the accutrigger better than my old remingtons ? Nah, not after adjusted.  Dave

[Coyote Hunter]

First, let me say that while I have more Rugers in my safe than any other kind and that I’m an unabashed fan of the M77’s, M77 MKII’s, #1’s and the Blackhawk and Super Redhawk revolvers.  With that out of the way, let me also state that I have nothing against Winchester, Remington, Savage, Weatherby or most other brands.

This morning I was at the range shooting a Remington M700 and a Savage 111, both in .30-06, at ranges out to 500 yards.  The Remington trigger has been  adjusted to my taste, the Savage AccuTrigger is just as it came from the factory.

Frankly, I like the AccuTrigger – it feels very much like the target trigger on my Ruger Varmint/Target .22-250 which intentionally has some take-up before moving the sear.  The difference is that with the Savage you are moving a separate piece of metal rather than the whole trigger. 

[poncaguy]

I have 2 Savages, 17 HMR and a 308 with the accu-trigger. I like it just fine. My Marlin XL7 has one like it and I like it too.................

[Swampman]

The Marlin XL7 does not have an Accu-Trigger.  It just looks like one.

[poncaguy]

I know, I said one like it..................

[R.W.Dale]

I know, I said one like it..................

Just ignore swampy, he's just always gotta attempt to be right.

[Swampman]

I am right.  The XL7 trigger is nothing like an Accu-Trigger.  It works in a completely different manner.

[Cement Man]

I like the Accu-trigger.  I have five Savages with them .17HMR, .22LR, .223(X2), and a ML10 muzzleloader. Savage has always been an excellent value - solid, accurate beyond my expectations, at a very reasonable price.  To me, getting a safe, adjustable trigger like this on a moderately priced rifle that really shoots, has been a big reason I bought these.  I haven't been disappointed.  It does resemble a two-stage trigger.  A light pull through on the tab, and when your finger pad engages the trigger, you know you're there. Works for me.

[R.W.Dale]

I am right.  The XL7 trigger is nothing like an Accu-Trigger.  It works in a completely different manner.

 SHURE! Other than the fact it's a trigger that uses a glock like articulated blade to prevent accidental discharges, other than that it's completely diffrent

And NO you are not right because NOBODY said the xl/7 trigger is identical to an  accu/trigger. Why don't you make an attempt to grow up just a little bit. I mean come on you're retirement age yet you act like a 15 yr old know it all teenager.

Your posts are very much like when a autistic person just spontaneously starts talking about something off the wall without provocation.

[Swampman]

I just figured facts would be better than disinformation.  The 2 triggers are totally different.  Both create the sensation of a long creepy trigger pull but use a different design to accomplish that result.

From Shooting Times magazine.

"One of the more important innovations that came along at the last minute was the trigger. We started with an MR-7 trigger, but at the 11th hour, we moved away from it and created something totally different," Rozum said. "It took about six months from concept to production. We wanted to offer the customer something that was user-adjustable and very safe."   The Pro-Fire trigger system has an articulating trigger-release lever that moves through a slot in the trigger bow and will not allow the trigger rearward until it is depressed. Parts are housed in an alloy casting, and sear engagement and overtravel are preset by the component's geometry. Pull weight is adjusted by first loosening a jam nut on a threaded set screw protruding from the front of the housing and then turning the set screw either in or out with an Allen-head wrench.  Turning the set screw in will increase the pull weight, and turning the set screw out reduces the pull weight. The pull weight ranges from can-hardly-make-it-go-off heavy to 2 1/2 pounds, where the unit bottoms out. Triggers come from the factory preset at 3 1/2 pounds.  Unlike the Savage AccuTrigger, which can be tripped without releasing the sear and then has to be recocked, the Pro-Fire trigger can be either pulled rearward or not, something determined by the position of the articulating trigger-release lever

[R.W.Dale]

I just figured facts would be better than disinformation.

OMG hell hath just frozen over!


Swampman and FACTS? ......ERROR....ERROR....BAD INPUT FILE:DOES NOT COMPUTE

BTW you gonna answer the question?  No of course you won't.

[poncaguy]

Well. I know that when I pull the trigger on my 2 Savages and the XL 7, they "seem" to do the same thing and feel the same and the rifles go bang, more accurately than Remingtons.............

[jmayton]

What we need is a Swampman vs. krochus forum...something just for you two to argue in so it doesn't invade everything else. 

That said...I have a pre-accutrigger savage and I've adjusted it down and stoned it.  It's about 3.5# right now.  I know a gunsmith could do a better job and the accutriggers i've tried get there with just a turn of a screw.  I'd have one.  Different way to do the same job.  It's got it's pros and cons like any other system.