What makes a Democrat or for that matter a Republican?--a QUESTION!

[Dee]

How many of you believe there is a right to privacy in the constitution?

This was YOUR QUESTION. Since asking it, you have made very little sense concerning the question. Now you are off on another subject which sounds more like a rant. I think you need to get some rest. I am.

[jdinil]

Mr Byers, I think you have some things wrong. Your comment about "original thinking" following your discussion of Orwell's 1984 is a bit baffling. Refering to "1984" is not much along the lines of original thinking. But, your most obvious error is stating this is all one country and that the concept of  Red and Blue states is nonsense. A person would have to be legally blind not to see that two countries do, in fact, exist. In my own state, there even exists two states! Northeastern Illinois and the rest of the state. It's also interesting that it is always the Libs who spout the litany of the country coming together, or being one. The problem is they want it to come together only on their terms! A lot of the country will never accept the liberal point of view or the liberal lifestyle. It just won't happen. Furthermore, I sincerely believe that if the self appointed messiah, the Marxist leaning, Obama is elected, the country will further divide. Probably more than your wildest dreams. Ole Joe Biden said this is the most important election you will ever vote in. He's right. But not for HIS reasons! 

[jimster]

I'm not sure the idea of the constitution has yet been grasped.

It gives us NO rights....does not matter if it lives and breaths, or is dead...
the rights of the people were pre-existing before it was written, and the only thing it does is tell us...the rights contained inside were pre-existing, and government can not infringe or interfere.

considering those facts...not much matters...if it's re-written...we simply do not have to follow it...since it never gave us any rihgts to begin with.

It all boils down to power and bullets in the end...just like it did in the beginning, and what people are willing to do to be free.

We were warned the tree of freedom would need to be refreshed with the blood of it's patriots from time to time....might as well get used to the idea....someday that might happen. 

Ain't no piece of paper going to keep you free....

[Heather]

I'm not sure the idea of the constitution has yet been grasped.

It gives us NO rights....does not matter if it lives and breaths, or is dead...
the rights of the people were pre-existing before it was written, and the only thing it does is tell us...the rights contained inside were pre-existing, and government can not infringe or interfere.

considering those facts...not much matters...if it's re-written...we simply do not have to follow it...since it never gave us any rihgts to begin with.

It all boils down to power and bullets in the end...just like it did in the beginning, and what people are willing to do to be free.

We were warned the tree of freedom would need to be refreshed with the blood of it's patriots from time to time....might as well get used to the idea....someday that might happen. 

Ain't no piece of paper going to keep you free....

That sir is the problem.  Not enough people are willing to do what it takes to keep our freedoms.  If someone is willing they feel like one person can't change anything, so they do nothing.  The gov is real smart.  They don't take a knife to cut away our freedoms.  If they did that, people might actually rebel.  They take a small razor blade.  Cuts just as good, just not as big and noticeable, but they are slowly cutting away our freedoms.  When the blade goes so deep it is to late.

Heather

[jimster]

Heather,  I agreee with the fact it's done slow over time and not enough people are willing to nip it in the bud right now.
But there is always the hope that when it's time, those of us will rise to the occassion when things get bad enough.

As far as all this haggling about what the constitution is...or refering to some constitutional scholar to help us figure it all out...I laugh at such notions we would need any views from any scholars at all.  The founding fathers had many documented writings on why they did what they did...those are the scholars that have the true meaning.  All other opinions are just opinions except the authors themselves. 

We have a republic...it was made that way so it would take much longer for the people to vote their own rights away...it can still be done as you point out Heather, but it just takes longer.  If we lived in a total democracy we would have lost all freedoms long ago.   
No where is it written that the majority of people are right...or moral at any given time...so another thing that gets my goat is hearing about how the majority feels,  when that in itself has nothing to do with if something is right, moral, or in the best interest of this country.   

It is entirely possible for the majority of people to become greedy, immoral, and self centered.   It has already happened in the large cities. 

In the end...it will all boil down to what we are willing to do if it gets bad enough,  and if we have the courage that all of the people had that signed the Declaration of Independence.  The people that put their name on that piece of paper were marked forever as rebels to be hanged, if caught. The penaly for treason was death or dismemberment back then I think.

We don't need constitutional scholars.  The only reason there is a such thing as a consitutional scholar is because some people do not agree with the founding fathers or what they already wrote...LOL!   so there ya go.....

keep the faith....there are many of us out here that do not want to be a republican, or a democrat, and just vote for the one who does the least amount of damage to some things...or as GB put it...you vote against someone instead of for someone...which is a pretty good way to put it too.

I think there is a large amount of people out there that think like us, that we do not hear from...the media will only let you know so much. 

[Heather]

I think there is a large amount of people out there that think like us, that we do not hear from...the media will only let you know so much. 

We can only hope!