why would any one support any democrat?

[45-70.gov]

i  am  sure there  are  a few pro-gun Democrats,  name  them if you  like.   i  voted for  a Democrat 20  years ago  locally  based on  NRA  recommendation  but  will  never do  that  again.  i  an  sure  there  are anti-gun republicans  too, PLEASE NAME THEM    the Democrats continually  infringe  our  right  to keep and buy arms    while  the Republicans  mostly protect  that right......Democrats  are  for wealth  redistribution..a fancy  way  to say 'Robin Hood'  but  remember  Robin   Hood  was  still  a thief.
the  Democrats  stick  together   do  you  think  that  your  'good' democrat is  going to stand behind  Pols  and  all  the  others   or  will  they  vote  against  the next crime bill.      which  party  will  make  government bigger?   will  bigger  government  bring bigger  government  corruption?   your  membership  in  the Democratparty and  Democratic vote  helps  ALL Democrats  Pelosi .Reed ,Obama  ACORN  ect not  just  your  man      as  Ronold Ragun said  the  party  has  left me behind    [ i think]

[Heather]

I can't think of any reason a gun owner would support a Democrat.  IMHO most of the people that vote democrat are just looking for gov handouts and help.  I can't think of ANY other reason to vote for killing babies, gov intervention of EVERYTHING, and a gross loss of our freedoms.  Just my opinion though.

Heather

[billy_56081]

Because they are lazy and want handouts could be one reason. They love sucking the brains out of babies could be another. They are stupid is almost a definite. They secretly want power, under a socialist communist type regime could be another. HMMM i'm sure there are alot more how about we work togethe on this list.

[billy_56081]

Hey they hate America, that would be anopther definite.

[doc_kreipke]

I think of Democrats as REVERSE Robin Hood.

Medieval aristocrats were basically nonproductive. They just started wars and issued decrees. The peasants were the ones who produced goods and services.

So, Robin Hood stole from the non-productive and gave to the productive.

What do Democrats want to do???

[DalesCarpentry]

I got nothing here. I can't think of a reason unless you want to pay more in taxes and give up your gun rights. Dale

[Dee]

Well Lieberman and McCain teamed up a little while back, and tried to get a bill passed to outlaw gun shows, and McCain voted YES to the assault weapons ban, and voted YES to reinstated it. Some so called Republicans are not always as they seem either.
Feingold occasionally votes pro-gun. Feingold? Let's see now, where have I heard that name? Oh yeah! McCain-Feingold Act trying to stifle 1st Amendment on freedom of speech.
While folks are trying to find enough rope to hang all the Democrats, they should also weed out some of their Republican heroes if they have the stomach for it.
I certainly am not a supporter of the Democratic theology, but it would seem that there are a few wolves in the Republican party also. Painting with a such a narrow brush sometimes just streaks the gallows, and doesn't cleanse the street.
If one wants to take out the trash, one should take out all the trash. jmooc

[torpedoman]

We don't have a good choice in this election for president , both are carreer politicans, basically dishonest and bought and paid for by bigger money (what, you don't have a buddy that will spend a 1000,000 dollars to buy you a job?) Neither can be trusted to do anything but help themself. wonder how much of 700 000 000 000 will end up in secret bank accts of our trusted leaders,  It will make the disappearing katrina funds look like what it was, a practice run for the big rip off. In reallity every single family home mortgage could have been paid off cheaper and the money to consumers freed up would have put the entire economy back on its feet in less than 90 days. (No way to steal any of that)

[Dee]

Another interesting point. Home mortgages. Does anyone actually believe that this $850,000,000,000.00 (that's billion with a B) is going to keep a family from loosing a home that they couldn't afford to pay for in the first place? These folks by and large bought more home than they could afford, and when gas prices went up, it pushed them over a ledge they were already standing on.
Bush asked for $700,000,000,000.00, and the Senate, INCLUDING McCAIN, added another $150,000,000,000.00 of PORK, to make it more appealing to the Congressmen whom were holding out. All McCain proved to me was, that he didn't mean what he said, when he said he was against PORK. Mr. McCain and company knows how to buy votes, and he and they proved it.

[Heavy C]

I can't think of anything other than what has already been said.  While our government is a mess right now; to vote Democrat this fall would send us further into socialism.  Last week was probably the most tragic and embarassing moment for our government in recent memory.  McCain certainly did not stay true to smaller government, but neither did our two senators from Texas - it makes me sick.  The feds should have kept their grubby hands out of this mess and let it play out.  It would have been a tough time for our country to say the least.  However, it would have gone a long way towards changing some attitudes around this country that the government can't and won't always be there to save your bacon.

I was laid off in March.  My family and I had been in our new home a little over six months.  Scary times for sure as I was the main bread winner.  I assessed the situation and took off with my own business in financial planning - something I had been doing on a part-time basis for the last six years.  I couldn't even bring myself to collect unemployment.  Seven months into this thing; business is picking up and I still have my house!  My point is that when people decide to do something they can usually accomplish it.  It makes my blood boil to hear folks wonder if the feds will help them keep their home!  Maybe Phil G. wasn't off the mark when he said we've become a nation of whinners.

[Dee]

Heavy C, I too have had a hard time, but like most hard times folks have, it's many times self-induced. I sold my trucking business, my wife took a much needed retirement, from us being self employed and I went into real estate. The market cratered, and I was stuck with a house I would never live in for almost 2 years. The government never offered to bail me out. I just went back to what I knew, and came up with a way to sell the house on my own.
I lost all my savings in the process, but we had paid for our own house, and cars, and we're pulling back up. I will never make back the money we lost, but we have our own home and each other. That's enough.
Kaye Bailey, and John Cornyn are like McCain, and Obama. SOLD OUT SOBs.
Texas may be better off if we secede again.

[Heavy C]

Dee, you don't strike me as the kind of guy that would ever ask for a handout.  I was referring to the folks on TV protesting and whining. 

I hear you loud and clear on the rest!

[Dee]

I got your drift Heavy C. My point was, like you, I took a lemon and lemon aide, instead of taking government aide.
The pork in this bill is the crux of the matter in D.C. They and Wall Street got what they really wanted, and we got the bill to pick up the tab.

[mcwoodduck]

To get back to the main question.
No I would never vote for a Dem.
It doesn't matter what his stand the DNC will pull funds from that person if they don't vote 90% party line. The have that person assigned to crappy commities, loosing staff positions, and have their office moved to a closet if they do not vote the way they are told to by the whip.
I'm not willing to vote for anyone that, no matter what they prommise, and he could be The great Ronald Reagan,  will only deliver 10%.
Thomas Jefferson should have stopped the bill of rights at the end of the first clause. "Congress shall make no law"
Remember when Clinton was hiding from the press and nothing was beiong signed?  Those were good days!
If we got rid of payroll taxes and people actually had to send a check to the fed, social security, medicare, state, and local governments Taxes would be at 7to 10% total and socal security would be fixed.  The economy would be booming as more people would have more to spend on what they know is important not what a bunch of do gooders think you should spend your money on.

[45-70.gov]

MCCAIN    is a bad  Republican   in  my  opinion, poor voting record    but  all  he  has  to do  is  beat  a Democrat   in  my  mind  he  wins  hands down  but  in  reality  he  is  now  losing   to the  Democrats   HOW CAN  THIS BE,   ARE  THER  REALLY  THAT  MANY SRUPID PEOPLE  OUT  THERE

[Dee]

There are many "stupid people" whom will vote for Obama. AND there are about the same amount of "stupid people" that believe McCain is going to save them.

[Heather]

YES, and they breed to.  

[45-70.gov]

IT  WILL  BE  MCCAIN  OR OBAMA........NOT  THE   WAY  IT  SHOLD  BE  JUST  THE  WAY  IT  IS....IS  THERE  ANY  PART  OF  THAT  YOU  DENY  OR  DON'T UNDERSTAND..........despite McCain..why  would  you support  any democrat  either directly by  voting for  then  or  indirectly  by  not voting against them

[Heather]

IT  WILL  BE  MCCAIN  OR OBAMA........NOT  THE   WAY  IT  SHOLD  BE  JUST  THE  WAY  IT  IS....IS  THERE  ANY  PART  OF  THAT  YOU  DENY  OR  DON'T UNDERSTAND..........despite McCain..why  would  you support  any democrat  either directly by  voting for  then  or  indirectly  by  not voting against them

I don't understand why that has to be the way it is.  The people make it this way by voting for the lesser of two evils.  I can't figure out why the people don't think they have the power to change it.  Everone is screaming they won't change.  Change starts with the people.  THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF THEY REALLY WANT TO.  THE PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE INFORMED ENOUGH TO CARE.

Heather

[gypsyman]

Anybody here can google up the name, Marcy Kaptur. She's our rep, in N.W. Ohio. A Democrat. Voted no on this last bs bailout, no on the nafta deal, got federal money back in the early '90's, to keep the match's at Camp Perry going.(which, by the way, was cut by Ronald Ragean), and just in the last go around, got another 2 million, to up grade the housing at Camp Perry. But she did vote party line's when the Clinton assualt weapons bill came up. None of them are perfect. gypsyman

[Dee]

IT  WILL  BE  MCCAIN  OR OBAMA........NOT  THE   WAY  IT  SHOLD  BE  JUST  THE  WAY  IT  IS....IS  THERE  ANY  PART  OF  THAT  YOU  DENY  OR  DON'T UNDERSTAND..........despite McCain..why  would  you support  any democrat  either directly by  voting for  then  or  indirectly  by  not voting against them

I understand completely 45-70.gov. I understand this: If you always do, what you've always done. You always get, what you've always got. To this DO YOU DENY OR DON'T UNDERSTAND?
This should be abundantly clear to even the smallest of minds, as the quality of candidates to this type of voting mentality should be proof enough. Although it obviously isn't as some such as YOURSELF, are still yelling for some of us to jump off the cliff with you, and all the while trying to justify the leap, claiming ignorance on OUR PART?

[gypsyman]

Dee, I understand what your thinking is. And you, and a couple others have said, voting for the lessor of 2 evils, your still getting evil. Your absolutley right. I look at it, if you have gangrene in your foot, do you chop off the whole leg? These election's are like a war. It's been going on for over 200 years. Each one is a battle. Some bigger than others. This is probably the biggest one, any of us will ever see, in our lifetime. Do we settle for a minor victory, and try again later? When you were in L.E., did you let the small time drug dealer go, because he wasn't the main man, or did you get him, and keep trying for the main source? Your call!  gypsyman

[Dee]

Dee, I understand what your thinking is. And you, and a couple others have said, voting for the lessor of 2 evils, your still getting evil. Your absolutley right. I look at it, if you have gangrene in your foot, do you chop off the whole leg? These election's are like a war. It's been going on for over 200 years. Each one is a battle. Some bigger than others. This is probably the biggest one, any of us will ever see, in our lifetime. Do we settle for a minor victory, and try again later? When you were in L.E., did you let the small time drug dealer go, because he wasn't the main man, or did you get him, and keep trying for the main source? Your call!  gypsyman

A little of both, at times but, it is a poor comparison for BLANTANT VOTING RECORDS. Before the PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN arose, senators and congressmen came to Washington, did their job, and went back to their homes, and jobs. Folks PAID ATTENTION to what each elected official stood for, and what he did or did not accomplish. Most people of ANY substance saw voting as a PRIVILAGE AND DUTY, as an American. Now days, sports, sex, drugs, and self-gratification are the elements that control our society. Most under the age of 40 (and many over) don't know whom the Vice President is, and DON'T CARE.
Society has changed, and become LAZY AND SELF SERVING. They have, will, and are WILLING TO SETTLE FOR LESS. They do not want to be bothered with ACCOUNTABILITY, AND CONSEQUENCES. THEY ARE MUCH MORE ADEPT AT MAKING EXCUSES. Their voting habits are proof.

[mcwoodduck]

Am I stupid to vote for McCain and hope he gets sick at his swearing in like,  Harding???, And Palin the conservitive becomes pres.

[Dee]

Am I stupid to vote for McCain and hope he gets sick at his swearing in like,  Harding???, And Palin the conservitive becomes pres.

You have as much of a chance at that happening as you would to expect McCain to be a conservative.

[mcwoodduck]

I can Hope, that just sounds wrong.  Maybe McCain will step down when he realizes the press no longer likes him cause he is an R and not speaking out against them.  Was it Harding that died only a few month after taking the oath?

[Dee]

William Henry Harrison. 32 days in office before his death. Nick name: Tippacanoe

[Swampman]

Since our fellow gun owners will not stand with us (and do the right thing) we will get stuck with Obama.

[Heather]

Since our fellow gun owners will not stand with us (and do the right thing) we will get stuck with Obama.

With optimism like that who even needs an election.  Let's just declare Obama pres now.

[Dee]

Since our fellow gun owners will not stand with us (and do the right thing) we will get stuck with Obama.

With optimism like that who even needs an election.  Let's just declare Obama pres now.

Well I have to admit I am not an Obama fan, and believe him to be a danger to the country BUT! If I had to choose between Swampy and Obama, I would choose Obama. The ability to have an intelligent conversation would at least be there, even if the topic were repulsive.