Author Topic: why would any one support any democrat? (Read 7757 times)

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #30 on:** October 06, 2008, 12:32:18 PM »

Thank you Dee, for the History lesson.

Swampman · « **Reply #31 on:** October 06, 2008, 12:41:25 PM »

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the ability to have an intelligent conversation would at least be there, even if the topic were repulsive.

If Obama were intelligent, he'd still need someone else that was intelligent to converse with.

Heather · « **Reply #32 on:** October 06, 2008, 03:09:35 PM »

Quote from: Dee on October 06, 2008, 12:17:40 PM

Quote from: Heather on October 06, 2008, 09:58:48 AM
Quote from: Swampman on October 06, 2008, 09:55:15 AM
Since our fellow gun owners will not stand with us (and do the right thing) we will get stuck with Obama.

With optimism like that who even needs an election. Let's just declare Obama pres now.

Well I have to admit I am not an Obama fan, and believe him to be a danger to the country BUT! If I had to choose between Swampy and Obama, I would choose Obama. The ability to have an intelligent conversation would at least be there, even if the topic were repulsive.

If Swampy was the GOP nominee and Obama the Dem nominee, I would vote 3rd party for Dee!

Heather · « **Reply #33 on:** October 06, 2008, 03:10:16 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on October 06, 2008, 12:41:25 PM

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the ability to have an intelligent conversation would at least be there, even if the topic were repulsive.

If Obama were intelligent, he'd still need someone else that was intelligent to converse with.

Well I guess that keeps you outta the running.

j/k

Heather

billy_56081 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 06, 2008, 03:27:53 PM »

I'm kinda for the rise up and kill em all type deal myself if I see it gettting beyond what I think is constitutional myself. How about anyone else here, I did some killing in the first Iraq war and also had an intruder I shot several years ago. I'm tired of hearing whiners complain how bad it is and not be willing to do anything. Anyone got anything constuctive to add?

Now what abut this Tbone feller he gonna jump in the race when it looks like all the country is divided? That old boy kinda scares me, what he up to?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #35 on:** October 06, 2008, 04:07:57 PM »

IT WILL BE MCCAIN OR OBAMA.......THAT IS THE WAY IT IS you can vote for the lessor of 2 evils if you like you will still be voting for evil.....NO ARGUEMENT HERE you can have an influence on the out come or you can add.... your vote to a WISH LIST but right now the MOST evil is leading slightly in the polls....we can disgust other options over the next 4 years but when you wake up November 5 and find out OBAMA won by 1% and 2% went to Bob Barr sure maybe Bob will try harder next time MAYBE GIVE THE DEMOCRATS A 10% EDGE but what a price to pay THE OBAMA PELOSI REED TEAM
right now lets just deal with what IS not what should be i am right there with you about what should be
Another thing to consider might help your upset stomach if you vote MCCAIN and help fight OBAMA..........
MCCAIN PICKED PALIN
OBAMA PICKED BIDEN
and don't tell any one but i to considered voting for my Libertarian candidate
but it WILL be McCain or Asama and there is NOTHING any one can do to change that in less than 30 days..........

TELL ME WHY I AM WRONG.......DON;T TELL WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE I AM WITH YOU THERE

nomosendero · « **Reply #36 on:** October 06, 2008, 04:15:02 PM »

Well I can see where a Muslim would vote Socialist Demoncrap.

Swampman · « **Reply #37 on:** October 06, 2008, 05:01:32 PM »

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If Swampy was the GOP nominee and Obama the Dem nominee, I would vote 3rd party for Dee!

If I were President, we would return to way our founding fathers voted.

Heather · « **Reply #38 on:** October 06, 2008, 05:16:51 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on October 06, 2008, 05:01:32 PM

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If Swampy was the GOP nominee and Obama the Dem nominee, I would vote 3rd party for Dee!

If I were President, we would return to way our founding fathers voted.

Well if that is the way you want it, you would NEVER be president.

Heather

wgr · « **Reply #39 on:** October 06, 2008, 05:53:55 PM »

billy i agree with you but if Obama gets in we wont have a gun to use.there is alot more at stake here than death and taxes. we are in jeopardy of losing alot of are rights and freedom.just my dimes worth

bilmac · « **Reply #40 on:** October 06, 2008, 07:12:59 PM »

So we lost our chance to be happy when the primaries didn't turn out right, so what now, we act like kids and quit the team? For the next 4 or 8 years we have to make the best of a less than good situation.

You folks that just can't stand the way things worked out, you're sick of the situation and you're not going to take it any more, here's an assignment. Instead of acting like little kids, fix the system. Fix the way the primaries are done that allows just a few somewhat liberal States to decide who our candidate will be. You say we can't just keep doing what we've been doing, OK do something constructive instead of whining. FIX IT

For this election we've got to do the best we can with the cards we've been dealt, act like little kids who didn't get their way and in 4 or 8 years we may not have such a subversive, anti government, gun fanatic forum such as this to vent our spleen on.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 07, 2008, 12:50:23 AM »

We ll I am am gonna vote for Mc Cain Palin with the hopes that Mc Cain aint president very long.

Mikey · « **Reply #42 on:** October 07, 2008, 01:13:41 AM »

Why would anyone vote for a dumbocrap? because they have their heads up their butts, have schmidt for brains and, suffer from a lack of oxygen as a result of where they stuff their heads........................ Just a thought. Mikey.

Ruskin · « **Reply #43 on:** October 07, 2008, 03:36:19 AM »

We for the last several years have had to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. This year is no exception. We can argue later about who will do what or did what. We need to salvage the general election and at least slow the shipwreck.

To fix the system, I would start with the states. The Dems and Reps have a lock on the voting system; however, it seems the Dems have no shame and will do anything to win. If there were people outside of both parties to win election to the national fron, and the new politics could build a presence on the national scene then change could be made.

Perot tried from the top. Even if he had won, he would have no support at the national level to call upon. With new blood and with popular support, the President, Dems, and Reps would not have a lck on power. It is about wrestling power form the parties and returning it to the governed.

In this go around, we know that the Dems will have a radical agenda which will be unmasked once the chads drop. Gunowers stand to loose what ground we made with the assalult ban's death. The Reps and a few Dems are good on the 2nd Amendment. With that I saw for gunowners the top of the ticket is to slow our looses, and the rest is then local.

Mike Britton · « **Reply #44 on:** October 07, 2008, 04:02:31 AM »

Quote from: bilmac on October 06, 2008, 07:12:59 PM

So we lost our chance to be happy when the primaries didn't turn out right, so what now, we act like kids and quit the team? For the next 4 or 8 years we have to make the best of a less than good situation.

You folks that just can't stand the way things worked out, you're sick of the situation and you're not going to take it any more, here's an assignment. Instead of acting like little kids, fix the system. Fix the way the primaries are done that allows just a few somewhat liberal States to decide who our candidate will be. You say we can't just keep doing what we've been doing, OK do something constructive instead of whining. FIX IT

For this election we've got to do the best we can with the cards we've been dealt, act like little kids who didn't get their way and in 4 or 8 years we may not have such a subversive, anti government, gun fanatic forum such as this to vent our spleen on.

This is what my dad was trying to get me to understand forty years ago, in my stupid liberal days, when he said "you can't change the system from the outside."
Bilmac couldn't be more correct in his assessment.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #45 on:** October 07, 2008, 07:28:37 AM »

thanks bilmac

billy_56081 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 07, 2008, 11:29:05 AM »

I'm still waiting for an answer from the whiners here on what they are gonna do? Or are you all bark and no bite?

Mike Britton · « **Reply #47 on:** October 07, 2008, 01:32:41 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on October 07, 2008, 11:29:05 AM

I'm still waiting for an answer from the whiners here on what they are gonna do? Or are you all bark and no bite?

What do you propose we do? Take up arms against our own government? Good luck with that.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 07, 2008, 03:20:53 PM »

Quote from: Mike Britton on October 07, 2008, 01:32:41 PM

Quote from: billy_56081 on October 07, 2008, 11:29:05 AM
I'm still waiting for an answer from the whiners here on what they are gonna do? Or are you all bark and no bite?
What do you propose we do? Take up arms against our own government? Good luck with that.

Aint that what the 2ND amendment is all about?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #49 on:** October 08, 2008, 02:18:34 AM »

yes it is..........it ain't about duck huntin......i have been told
but i don't think it has gotten that bad.........YET

ms · « **Reply #50 on:** October 08, 2008, 02:46:38 AM »

I can see someone voting democrat for stem cell .

45-70.gov · « **Reply #51 on:** October 08, 2008, 03:37:15 AM »

MS what does that mean??? your a liberal if it means what i think you mean

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #52 on:** October 08, 2008, 03:52:27 AM »

A better ? , why do we support either ? is it not both sides fault we are where we are ?
with the age of computers and communication what it is maybe its time to see if in fact the pen is mightier than the sword , or maybe the key board vs. gun .
There will never be a better chance for a third , fourth or more parties !
Our fore fathers convinced enough of the lazy and unmotivated to take on the biggest power at the time . Should we not try to convince people to make America good and strong once more ?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #53 on:** October 08, 2008, 04:21:11 AM »

why do we support either party?? well it will either be OBAMA or McCain don't you realize that?
with those 2 choices your a moron to vote AMA and hard headed to vote 3rd party
BTW don't say WE support either party....i am registered to vote Libertarian
when you speak in first person plural you sound like a liberal and anti-individual

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #54 on:** October 08, 2008, 04:29:23 AM »

moron ? I'm not the moron here !
you say !
you want better/change but choke at the chance ! You will never be free if you are a coward when you might loose !

ms · « **Reply #55 on:** October 08, 2008, 04:41:26 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on October 08, 2008, 03:37:15 AM

MS what does that mean??? your a liberal if it means what i think you mean

I'm voting third party I have always voted rep not this time.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #56 on:** October 08, 2008, 04:43:20 AM »

count MS for OBAMA......and what sis you mean about stem cell?

ms · « **Reply #57 on:** October 08, 2008, 05:30:00 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on October 08, 2008, 04:43:20 AM

count MS for OBAMA......and what sis you mean about stem cell?

The dem are for stem cell research. The rep are not.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #58 on:** October 08, 2008, 05:45:51 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on October 08, 2008, 04:43:20 AM

count MS for OBAMA......and what sis you mean about stem cell?

Tim stem cell research may some day help cripple people walk among other things. Dale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell

Matt · « **Reply #59 on:** October 08, 2008, 07:42:22 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on October 08, 2008, 04:29:23 AM

moron ? I'm not the moron here !
you say !
you want better/change but choke at the chance ! You will never be free if you are a coward when you might loose !

SHOOTALL....................................................................................

Can I buy you a beer or your choice of drink.......................................Hell we can even go to a steak house and get a 20oz Porterhouse if you like.......

Talk change all you want but if you continue to do the same thing and vote DEM or REP YOU ARE INSANE!!!!!!!!! If you really want change then stop saying it and do something about it VOTE for the LIBERTY PARTY or the CONSTITUTIONAL PARTY candidate.