Author Topic: why would any one support any democrat? (Read 8123 times)

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #60 on:** October 08, 2008, 07:48:58 AM »

If Palin was a canidate of a third party how many would vote for her ?

gypsyman · « **Reply #61 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:01:36 AM »

Well, lets see, in the last 2 days, the organization called Acorn has been raided by the FBI for voter fraud, possibly in up to 6 or 7 states.(all for the Osama, sorry,Obama side) and James Carvell basically coming out and saying, that if Osama,sorry, Obama loses the election, if he has a 2 or 3 point lead going into the election, there is a possibility of race riots taking place. Damn, this election is getting interesting!! gypsyman

45-70.gov · « **Reply #62 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:23:52 AM »

IF PALIN WERE A 3RD PARTY WE WOULD END UP WITH OBAMA FOR SURE

Matt · « **Reply #63 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:26:25 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on October 08, 2008, 08:23:52 AM

IF PALIN WERE A 3RD PARTY WE WOULD END UP WITH OBAMA FOR SURE

That still did not answer the question as to if you would vote for her or not.... well would you?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #64 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:27:11 AM »

DALE I KNOW WHAT STEM CELLS ARE BUT WHY WOULD THAT CAUSE YOU TO VOTE DEMOCRAT

WHY IS IT A POLITICAL POINT, UNLESS YOUR A LIBERAL

45-70.gov · « **Reply #65 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:31:02 AM »

THE NEXT ONE WILL BE MCCAIN OR OBAMA NOTHING ELSE MATTERS

but there is a chance i would vote for her ,,, that will be a good discussion after we dispatch OBAMA.. i don't like republicans but i hate democrats

Matt · « **Reply #66 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:33:19 AM »

So would anyone care to try and place a number on the amount of people who feel that mccain is not the right man for the job but is better than obama? any EDUCATED guess will do... anyone?

Matt

45-70.gov · « **Reply #67 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:36:23 AM »

hopefully 51%

and none of them vote for the best man...just best that has a chance

Matt · « **Reply #68 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:44:31 AM »

ok well if that 51% would vote for the best man then we could be on our way out of this mess... but they are content just settling for a republican....

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #69 on:** October 08, 2008, 09:06:44 AM »

We are reduced to voting for less of 2 evils not the best for the job !
Anyone figured out that we don't choose the choices , we get to vote for the hand picked ones that are put up . Conventions you scream , where did the canidates come from ? Anyone here get asked who they wanted on the ballot ?
Guess no one can see we would need to start with a third party several elections in advance to stand a chance , I would vote for Palin , as a matter of fact that is who i am voting for ! The guy with her just lucked out ! I hope we get to see her on top one day ( AS IN PRESIDENT ) . And no i don't wish McCain any misfortune ! Hey maybe a reformed REP party would be the next best thing !

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #70 on:** October 08, 2008, 09:07:47 AM »

oh yea 51% depending on where they live , you could still loose !

Heather · « **Reply #71 on:** October 08, 2008, 10:38:49 AM »

Quote from: Matt on October 08, 2008, 08:33:19 AM

So would anyone care to try and place a number on the amount of people who feel that mccain is not the right man for the job but is better than obama? any EDUCATED guess will do... anyone?

Matt

IMO, if anyone thinks McCain is the right man for the job, then they are very ignorant to what is going on in the world. If I had to make assumptions as to why people are voting for McCain, I would say 20% are ignorant and think he really is the best man for the job, another 20% will vote for him because their Daddy and their Daddy's Daddy voted Republican and they can't break tradition, another 10% will because they are infactuated with Palin, and the other 50% won't actually vote for him, but against Obama.

Heather

45-70.gov · « **Reply #72 on:** October 08, 2008, 11:12:36 AM »

if for what ever reason 51% vote MCCAIN we don't get a gun grabbing Marxist named BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

but but but if 51% voted for the best man......quit saying how it should it is not going to happen get over it and face the way it is join a 3rd party but don't waste your vote

just the 10% that vote the way their daddy voted republican will give us OBAMA

ROSS PERROT gave us bill Clinton and the assault weapons ban

gypsyman · « **Reply #73 on:** October 08, 2008, 12:04:58 PM »

Heather, both my mother and father were both registered Dem's. I am a registered Rep.(only because in Ohio, you can't register as an independent) The Dem's of my dad's day, are spinning in their grave's. Huckabee or Romney would be a better choice than McCain. But we're stuck with who we have. I honestly believe, the crap is going to hit the fan, no matter who gets in. Just a matter of how big the shovel is,that's used to pitch the goo. gypsyman

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #74 on:** October 08, 2008, 12:07:10 PM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on October 08, 2008, 08:27:11 AM

DALE I KNOW WHAT STEM CELLS ARE BUT WHY WOULD THAT CAUSE YOU TO VOTE DEMOCRAT

WHY IS IT A POLITICAL POINT, UNLESS YOUR A LIBERAL

Tim I thought you were asking what stem cells were. Sorry. The political point of it is Dems are for it and Rep. are against it because it uses human embryos for the research. To do the research the embryos have to be killed although I think they may have come up with another way recently. There was one time that they were going to discard the embryos because of age or something and Bush still would not let them use them for the research. That I don't understand. If they were going to be discarded them anyway, why not use them for some good and not just waist the lives? Dale

powderman · « **Reply #75 on:** October 08, 2008, 12:22:12 PM »

Yeah right Matt. Vote your 3rd party, it's crap like that will elect osama, I think thats what some of you here want and are ashamed to admit it. Mccain is the only chance we have as sportsmen, shooters, hunters, gun owners, to beat one of the most rabid anti gunners we have ever seen. With a dumcrap congress and osama at the helm, we are doomed. Osama is the biggest racist to run for office since George Wallace, and you people are helping him. Shame on ya. POWDERMAN.

Mike Britton · « **Reply #76 on:** October 08, 2008, 12:43:23 PM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on October 08, 2008, 07:48:58 AM

If Palin was a canidate of a third party how many would vote for her ?

One here

45-70.gov · « **Reply #77 on:** October 08, 2008, 12:45:57 PM »

did BUSH stop stem cell research?? or did he just stop funding it with our money?
i think he just stopped funding it
if you think just cutting federal funds stops it ... then you are a liberal
your saying if government does not fund it it won't happen...your a liberal
free interprize can still do stem cell research if its worth doing
stem cell research can be done in other countries....if its Worth doing
so if cutting federal funds stopped it
then they must have just been doing it for the federal funds

Dee · « **Reply #78 on:** October 08, 2008, 01:01:54 PM »

BOY THIS ONE WAS A SETUP OF NON-SENSICAL IDEAOLOGY! CAN'T PASS IT UP!

Quote from: 45-70.gov on October 08, 2008, 11:12:36 AM

if for what ever reason 51% vote MCCAIN we don't get a gun grabbing Marxist named BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

GUN GRABBIN YOU SAY? MCCAIN HAS VOTED AGAINST THE SECOND AMENDMENT 73% OF THE TIME FOR "26 YEARS![[/color

but but but if 51% voted for the best man......quit saying how it should it is not going to happen get over it and face the way it is join a 3rd party but don't waste your vote

WASTING YOUR VOTE? VOTING SAME OLE SAME OLE, AND COMPLAINING ALL THE WAY, IS NOT WASTING YOUR VOTE?

just the 10% that vote the way their daddy voted republican will give us OBAMA

BUT IT'S "OK" FOR YOU TO VOTE THE WAY "YOU" WANT TO? IS THAT IT?

ROSS PERROT gave us bill Clinton and the assault weapons ban

NO! ROSS PERROT DIDN'T GIVE US THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN. BILL CLINTON AND JOHN MCCAIN DID! DIDN'T KNOW THAT DID YA? MCCAIN VOTED "FOR" THE CLINTON ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN, AND WHEN IT EXPIRED HE VOTED "FOR IT'S REINSTATEMENT TO PERMANENCY. BET YA DIDN'T KNOW THAT DID YA? HERE'S ANOTHER ONE YA PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW. GW SAID THAT IF IT PASSED THE HOUSE AND SENATE, THAT HE WOULD SIGN IT BACK INTO LAW, PERMANENTLY!

WHEN YOU GUYS TRY TO USE THESE ARGUMENTS ON FOLKS THAT DON'T AGREE WITH YOU REDUNDANT VOTING HABITS YOU SHOULD RESEARCH THEM FIRST, SO THEY CAN'T BE USED AGAINST YOU. IT IS VERY HARD TO ARGUE AGAINST FACTS.

AS FOR THE SWAMPER THAT WANTS TO TRADE HIS DUNCE CAP FOR A TIN FOIL ONE, IT WOULD BE TRADING UP FOR HIM. THIS IS AMERICA GENTLEMEN, AND ONE MAY VOTE FOR ANYONE THEY WISH. EVEN THE ONES WITH THE SHOVELS THAT ARE DIGGING AN EVER DEEPENING HOLE.

YOUR A LIBERAL AND DON'T EVEN KNOW IT!

YES! I'M YELLING!

Mike Britton · « **Reply #79 on:** October 08, 2008, 01:07:45 PM »

Take a deep breath Dee, your wife will wonder why you are screaming at the computer.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #80 on:** October 08, 2008, 01:33:46 PM »

WE ARE NOT TALKING REPUBLICANS ... WE KNOW ABOUT MCCAIN....

JUST A REASON TO SUPPORT A DEMOCRAT.....YOU GOT ONE

DO YOU THINK THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE REPUBLICANS

DO YOU PREFER OBAMA AND THE OTHER DEMOCRATS?? PELOSI SCHUMER ECT

ROSS PORROT SPLIT THE VOTES THATS COMMON KNOWLEDGE
ALLOWING CLINTON TO WIN WITH 43% OF THE VOTE

LOOKS LIKE OBAMA PELOSI REED SCHUNER BOXER WILL RUN THE COUNTRY AND BIDEEN CAN REWRITE THE CRIME BILL

45-70.gov · « **Reply #81 on:** October 08, 2008, 01:38:43 PM »

AND YES I KNEW THEY ALL SIGNED IT AND BUSH SAID HE WOULD MAKE IT PEMANENT
SO WHAT
BIDDEN WROTE IT AND BRAGGED ABOUT IT IN THE DEBATE
THEY ARE ALL LOOSERS
OBAMA AND BIDDEN ARE THE BIGGEST LOSERS AND THEY ARE DEMOCRATS
BUSH SENIOR WANTED A CLIP BAN OVER 25 AND I NEVER VOTED FOR HIM AGAIN

Dee · « **Reply #82 on:** October 08, 2008, 01:58:02 PM »

Quote from: Mike Britton on October 08, 2008, 01:07:45 PM

Take a deep breath Dee, your wife will wonder why you are screaming at the computer.

She came in and shut the door. The dog was howling. Sometimes a little yelling is good for the soul. Besides, the kids are grown and gone, and I need to give Huff my Jack Russell huntin buddy a break. When I yell at him, he thinks we're havin fun, and he yells back.

Dee · « **Reply #83 on:** October 08, 2008, 02:11:18 PM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on October 08, 2008, 01:38:43 PM

AND YES I KNEW THEY ALL SIGNED IT AND BUSH SAID HE WOULD MAKE IT PEMANENT
SO WHAT
BIDDEN WROTE IT AND BRAGGED ABOUT IT IN THE DEBATE
THEY ARE ALL LOOSERS
OBAMA AND BIDDEN ARE THE BIGGEST LOSERS AND THEY ARE DEMOCRATS
BUSH SENIOR WANTED A CLIP BAN OVER 25 AND I NEVER VOTED FOR HIM AGAIN

McCain voted for the assault weapons ban TWICE, and votes anti 2nd Amendment 73% of the time for the last 26 years. How come you never voted for him again like ya did ole man Bush?

Gosh 45-70.gov you don't have to yell, I'm sittin right here.

Let's see now, Bush SENIOR wanted a magazine ban for magazines over 25 rounds (proper terminology) so you never voted for him again. Isn't that the election where Clinton beat him? So by you pouting and not voting for Bush SENIOR, YOU AND ROSS helped put Clinton in the White House so him and McCain, and Biden could create the Assault Weapons ban. Right? So I can blame ole Ross, Clinton, McCain and YOU for makin me pay so much for 30 rounders. Shame on you 45-70.gov for betraying the party over a silly proposal.

So if you didn't vote Bush and you helped Clinton into the White House because you were mad, that's ok? But if some of us vote 3rd Party because YOUR GUY McCain did what he did, we're wrong for voting 3rd party? That's a double standard on your part 45-70.gov. Your telling us you can vote any way you want for what ever reason, but if we vote for an honest 3rd Party candidate we're screwing you around?

Your vote was a protest vote, but ours is a wasted one?

45-70.gov · « **Reply #84 on:** October 08, 2008, 02:24:13 PM »

your right why i learned from my mistake don't want you to make the same mistake

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #85 on:** October 08, 2008, 02:26:51 PM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on October 08, 2008, 12:45:57 PM

did BUSH stop stem cell research?? or did he just stop funding it with our money?
i think he just stopped funding it
if you think just cutting federal funds stops it ... then you are a liberal
your saying if government does not fund it it won't happen...your a liberal
free interprize can still do stem cell research if its worth doing
stem cell research can be done in other countries....if its Worth doing
so if cutting federal funds stopped it
then they must have just been doing it for the federal funds

Here is a quote from Bush. Dale

Congress has sent me a bill that would overturn this policy. If this legislation became law, it would compel American taxpayers -- for the first time in our history -- to support the deliberate destruction of human embryos. I made it clear to Congress and to the American people that I will not allow our nation to cross this moral line. Last year, Congress passed a similar bill -- I kept my promise by vetoing it. And today I'm keeping my word again: I am vetoing the bill that Congress has sent. (Applause.)

Destroying human life in the hopes of saving human life is not ethical -- and it is not the only option before us. We're already seeing remarkable advances in the science and therapeutic uses of stem cells drawn from adults and children, and the blood from umbilical cords -- with no harm to the donor. Researchers value embryonic stem cells because they are pluripotent -- which means that they have the potential to develop into nearly all the cell types and tissues in the body. Researchers are now developing promising new techniques that offer the potential to produce pluripotent stem cells -- without having to destroy human life.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #86 on:** October 08, 2008, 02:35:39 PM »

so if it is not funded by government it can't be done??

that is a liberal concept

bush has no authority in other countries why don't they develope it

no law stopping free interprize from doing it......if its worth doing

i think they are spinnig things to get federal money

45-70.gov · « **Reply #87 on:** October 08, 2008, 02:37:01 PM »

and it gives democrats another reason to push abortion

sorry for being in 2 parts lol

no guns here · « **Reply #88 on:** October 08, 2008, 08:33:14 PM »

I think that the old saw about if your 20 you're a liberal, if you're 40 you're a conservative. The actual ages may change but I think as we get older, we become more conservative in general.

As for who would vote for Palin... I would.

Face it she has more experience leading a government than any of the other candidates. Not a one of the other three have EVER been in charge of anything.

Not a one of the other three have a record of independence versus their own party.

Not a one of the other three are honest-to-goodness gun owning hunters.

Not a one of the other three will admit to belonging to a mainstream Christian church.

She is vehemently anti-abortion.

She is pro-homeschool.

She is pro-hunting.

She is pro-guns.

She is from "middle America".

She is not a career politician or from a political family.

She understands people with disabilities. She has a DS baby.

Her husband was/is a man who works with his hands and by the sweat of his brow.

Her son-in-law to-be is ENLISTING in the military. The Army I think...

And last but not least, she is smart enough to admit that she doesn't know everything.
I think she is forceful and decisive.

ngh

doc_kreipke · « **Reply #89 on:** October 08, 2008, 11:04:59 PM »

Quote

I think that the old saw about if your 20 you're a liberal, if you're 40 you're a conservative.

The version of this that I heard is "If you're 20 and not liberal, then you have no heart. If you're 40 and not conservative, then you have no brains." Attributed to Churchill, I think.