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Offline Archie

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327 Charter
« on: October 05, 2008, 01:19:36 PM »
Does anyone have one of the new 327 Charter revolvers with the 4' bbl.  What is accuracy like at 25 yards?  How is accuracy of other charter revolvers.  Are charter firearms good, reliable, accurate firearms.

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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 02:34:57 PM »
Quote from: Archie on October 05, 2008, 01:19:36 PM
Does anyone have one of the new 327 Charter revolvers with the 4' bbl.  What is accuracy like at 25 yards?  How is accuracy of other charter revolvers.  Are charter firearms good, reliable, accurate firearms.

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Nope. No clue. Not bad. Pretty good for the money. Yes. Reasonably accurate.

No interest in the .327 due primarily due to availability of brass and bullets both current and future. I have an old stainless "Under Cover" in the safe. It's not shootable right now due to timing issues, and of course the front sight fell off about 10 years ago. It's not as bad as it sounds tho. I put a wheelbarrow load of ammo thru that gun way back when. It wasn't as durable as my Smiths and Rugers, but only costs about half the price. If you're going to shoot it a LOT, say, more than 5k rds, then go ahead and invest in the Ruger. For carry and occasional use, the Charter should be ok.
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008, 04:51:18 AM »
Most gunsmiths have a real love/hate relationship with Charter revolvers. They love the fact that they bring in a lot of work and hate the fact that they can never get one to work as well as the customer hoped. ;D
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Offline Badnews Bob

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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2008, 02:50:12 AM »
I handled one of thease at the gun store yesterday and it felt crudely made and unfinished. Very course trigger and sights, I think for a belly gun it would be alright but I don't think I'd worry about getting good groups with it nor do I think I'd shoot it allot. The ruger still gets my vote.
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 02:03:49 AM »
I don't know about the .327, but I have a Charter .357, 2" snubbie with the ported barrel. Is it pretty like a S&W? No, but I could get a least 2 Charters for the price of one S&W and I shoot just as tight groups as most of the other snubbie shooters at the range I frequent. Personally, I like the matte SS finish look and the ported barrel lets me shoot full house .357s with less recoil than my friends .38+P Airweight. I have heard much against the brand, but I'd rate them with either a Taurus or Rossi. BTW, my other revolver (field gun) is a .357mag Taurus Tracker 7 shooter with the factory porting and it is a tack driver.
Gunblast did a review on the cal and Ruger bored the SP-101 3" for it as the actual 1st .327mag. I believe Charter was the second to bore the round. The Ruger is no doubt the better revolver, but is also way more expensive, if that is a concern. From what I'm reading, the round is supposed to be between a .38+P and a .357 mag in effectiveness with about the .38's recoil. It was designed as a ccw round, I think. Probably good for smaller framed folks than the .357 with around the 9mm preformance in an actual revolver round. 
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 03:46:23 AM »
Plenty of ammo, but no Ruger or Charter 327 pistols available around , so , they must be very popular.............
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 05:30:29 AM »
I have to say I have not owned any of the newer Charter revolvers.  BUT I have owned and shot (a lot!) a bagfull of the older Charter revolvers and have not had issues with them.  They did not have the fine finish or double action trigger of the Smith, but they were accurate and well built pistols.  I feel they are a good value in a handgun.  Can you have problems, sure, you can with any handgun.  A friend of mine bought a new Ruger the other day that would not function and he had to send it back to the factory.  As for my Charters, I was well pleased with them.  Mine have shot as well as any Smith (and I have owned my share of them also).  All will (S&W snubs and Charter snubs) ring the 12" 100 yd gong regulary at a local range with a good hold and careful trigger pull.  Enjoy that gun.  44 Man
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2008, 08:06:35 PM »
John Taffin has a write up in the January/February issue of American Handgunner. It is a pretty good review. The Charter 327 is built on the same frame as the 44. Not a bad looking little gun for the price. It will shoot the 32 S&W, 32 Magnum, as well as the 327 Magnum load. Out of its 2.2 inch barrel the 327 Magnum 115 grain Gold Dot was running at 1230 and shot 7/8 inch groups at 7 yards. In 32 Magnum the 95 grain LSWC was running at 811 and shot the same sized group. I bet one could come up with a real nice cast hand load for plinking and general trail use. 
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 04:21:58 AM »
What is the point of testing accuracy at seven yards?  Has anyone ever fired a gun which was not sufficiently accurate at seven yards? My smoothbore muzzleloading derringer will never miss a beer can at seven yards. A matchlock handcannon would be deadly accurate at seven yards. Gun writers! ::)
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2008, 01:24:30 PM »
Typical handgun battle take place at 15 feet or less. Documented facts. So seven yards or 21 feet if you will is plenty to test a firearm designed for that type use. The 1911 colt .45 acp was designed useing just that criteria  7 yards. CCW testing is also 7 Yards.
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2008, 02:25:28 PM »
What coyotejoe is saying is: Accuracy testing proves nothing if done as pointblank ranges. We all expect one ragged hole groups at 7 yards, for crying out loud! Out of any type of projectile launcher!! Hardly a measure of the revolvers accuracy. A more realistic test might have been at 15 yds given the guns intended use. If I were in the market for one of these guns, I'd be interested in that information. Never know when you might need to make a shot a little longer than handshaking distance. In my book a 7 yd accuracy test is no test at all. I'd wager that not all gunfights fit into that statistical model.
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2008, 03:28:45 AM »
EXACTLY!! If one is to call it a "test" then the criteria should be reasonably challenging and in line with other established testing methods. Twenty-five yards has long been the standard distance for handgun accuracy testing, the military has always used that standard and the NRA likewise. The fact that you may never fire a defensive shot at that exact distance is beside the point, you'll probably never measure group sizes in a defensive shooting either. Testing should give one a value they can compare to other standard values. Many magazine writers like to test at non-standard distances expressly so one cannot compare their test to others, so that both the writer and the gun they are hyping will look better. Accuracy testing at very short range provides no useful information, just hype.
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Re: 327 Charter
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2008, 03:45:30 AM »
At least 25 yds. and preferably in a Ransom rest.  The ability to write about guns doesn't mean the writer has the ability to shoot them accurately.
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