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Offline Dan Mich Trapper

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« on: August 05, 2003, 11:11:17 PM »
Does it hurt to use coyote urine at fox sets or should I use fox urine ? How do I know if urine is bad ? I hjave some that I've had for about 3 yrs that came with a bunch of trapping stuff I baught at an auction so as far as the actual age , I have no clue .
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2003, 11:59:30 PM »
Hey Dan, good to hear from you again!  During the bounty era a coyote was worth more bounty than a fox so I made all sets with coyote in mind and used coyote urine exclusively at sets.  I picked up every fox that passed and don't ever recall seeing any evidence that a fox avoided a set lured with coyote lure and coyote urine.
Your old urine should smell strong but not spoiled.  Good urines will last for years if they are stored in glass in a cool dark place. Poor urines have food particles in them and soon smell like a sewer, especially coyote urine.  Urines stored for very long in plastic lose their strength because the amonia content can evaporate through the pores in the plastic.  I doubt that this harms the urine but it just isn't as strong to the human nose.  Ace
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2003, 07:24:12 AM »
Good to be back Asa , Thanks for the info . Think I will hit the k-9s hard this year and see if its worth my time . I'm sure you'll have to answer more questions for me in the near future .
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2003, 07:41:13 AM »
Don't mean to hijack the thread,but is there anyplace to *get* good fox urine?I've tried a couple, but quite honestly,I think I'd be better off using my own.
Apologies to anyone who has good urine....I don't know of you.Sell me some.

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2003, 08:01:59 AM »
Edge , I dont mean anything by this at all , but what do you mean by "good urine "?  I may be nieve , but always assumed it was good when I bought it . Like I said I dont mean anything bad by asking this . Did you buy some that wasnt good .
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2003, 09:11:36 AM »
My asking around to "those in the know" indicates that Lenon's, Minnesota's, or Murry's all have high quality urine. I bought some fox from Asa last year, and what's left smells excellent. I also ordered some from Minnesota last year to mix it up, but this nose can't really tell the difference, except neither of the two smells sewery like some I've sniffed.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2003, 09:30:20 AM »
I agree with Mallard....I used Asa's fox-u last season and quite a few 'yotes and fox seemed to think it was good....not to mention a few cats!!  
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2003, 10:17:40 AM »
DanMT,
I have purchased urine that smelled wrong when it was new,got worse as it got older.
Off season storage,shipping practice,retail packaging,etc,all play a part in the trapper geting good urine.Not to mention the original source....gotta start good to stay good.
My apologies to Asa.I have used his products for so many years that I rarely look at his catalog anymore(I just order what I need from memory,his or mine!)
I can assure anyone that if Asa sells urine,it is of the highest quality,stored well and retailed with the trapper in mind.If Asa had a question about the quality of any of his products...I know that product would not likely ever make it to a trapper.His meticulous standards are what keeps his product on my line and that of thousands of other trappers.
As I come closer to year-round trapping;the quality of equiptment on my line becomes that much more important to me;I would rather use no urine than crappy urine and the same goes for every other necessary imlement on my line.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2003, 10:25:47 AM »
As you can see,however,the quality of my spekling still remains remarkably low...........

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2003, 01:15:50 PM »
:D Hey, thanks guys for all the nice comments, I appreciate them!  Ace :grin:
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Offline mattjones298

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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2003, 04:36:11 AM »
as far as yote urine goes, i just helped bob wendt haul 400 gallons of very good  yote urine to the nta, gerald schmitt got most of it, as did some other dealers,  this was the first time i had seen bob`s pens, he is set up to do it right.  if i needed yote urine i would not wait to long to order it.  the coyote mkt is better then it`s been in a long while.  and there`s lots of boys that know how to catch them still around.  the construction trade is slow now, there will be some trappers out there this time.  i`m going to sell my yotes in the country this time as fast as i can get them washed and dried.  trap them ,snare them, shoot them whatever as fast as ya can, then go for the cats.  every coyote i`ll catch will have a home before the jan. sale at nafa......matt
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