Report: U.S. spied on Americans' intimate conversations abroad!

[powderman]

I think Swampman nailed it, ol tm must have lived too close to an airport, those jets constantly spraying their poison mind control gases into the air.
Billy, ya oughta be ashamed of yourself picking on tm and asking him questions he can't answer. Ya know he's Matts pet, we're just mongrels, so lay off. Guess I'll catch it now. POWDERMAN. 

[Graybeard]

Prolly so Charlie, prolly so.

Those who do not answer usually do not have answers to give.

Since I take somewhat of a middle ground between the positions espoused by TM7 and Matt and the rest of you guys on the other side from them let me see if I can toss out a plausible answer.

Mind control efforts are clearly going on but it's not of the sort you seem to envision from TM7's posts. It's not so much a machine or machinery or such but more in the way of words and the way the media and government officials spin things. They seek to convince you via smooth talk that the way they want you to believe is the one and only right way to think and believe.

Now I do confess to some belief that it goes a bit beyond that even. Have you noticed that the occurrence of things like autism (sp) in children is dramatically on the rise? Have you noticed the dramatic increase in the use of mood altering chemicals being used in children these days by the medical profession? All the axiety drugs in use and such? I see these as being mind control drugs being administered not so much for the purposes stated but as a dumbing down of America.

Unlike some of you and perhaps more like TM7 and Matt I do believe that some as yet unkown/unspecified group of super rich are far more in control of the fate of this nation and the world than any of us as yet know or want to see. They own the media almost completely and so can control the news that leaks out to us from it. Ever notice how almost all news folks are dumocraps and support the dumocrap position and candidates in all matters? Now don't take that to assume that I think the Republicans are lily white and pure as I sure enough don't even if some here do. They too are under control by the super rich but in some way not the same as are the dumocraps. I'm not yet convinced I understand the how or why of the difference.

Perhaps there are in fact two somewhat different and competing groups of super rich elite involved here. Over all tho the goal of all politicians in the end is to gain more and more power over the populace and to have less and less accounting for their actions.

I make no pretense as does TM7 to know what's going on but what I see happening I do not like and feel quite powerless to have an real impact on it. I'd compare it to someone in a canoe or kayak shooting the rapids of a class five river at flood stage. You really can't turn around and go back the way you came and have darn little control of just where you go other than down stream at a rapid pace. You might want to pull over and get off but that steep rocky bank just won't let you. Where this country is headed is about like that in my opinion. We're rushing head long toward socialism or maybe worse and no matter what those of us opposed to it say or do we seem to have no lasting impact on the direction our society is headed right now.

[Swampman]

I'd compare it to someone in a canoe or kayak shooting the rapids of a class five river at flood stage. You really can't turn around and go back the way you came and have darn little control of just where you go other than down stream at a rapid pace. You might want to pull over and get off but that steep rocky bank just won't let you. Where this country is headed is about like that in my opinion. We're rushing head long toward socialism or maybe worse and no matter what those of us opposed to it say or do we seem to have no lasting impact on the direction our society is headed right now.

Excellent analogy

I believe God's in control.  We are in that canoe, but he's on the rudder paddle.  I'm just along for the ride.  To quote an old song, "this world is not my home, I'm just a passin through."

"A lot to think about, but nothing to worry about."

[Swampman]

A Christian is subject to the government.  He has no choice.

Romans 13

1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. 

[Swampman]

http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/Articles/chemtrails_over_america.htm

http://theshadowlands.net/bf.htm

http://hightimes.com/

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Typical repubnik tactic....show where I've used these links you have bookmarked...they aren't familar to me...maybe just in your dreams..

..TM7

Actually I think your neo-nazi post are the worst.

[SHOOTALL]

the worst are uninformed people trying to educate others !
They look like they know but the damage they do is often beyond repair !

[Swampman]

That would be about 99% of the post.

[Heather]

That would be about 99% of the post.

I think the majority of the people that frequent our ol pot-bellied seem to be very intelligent people.  There are a few that just don't have a clue.  To quote someone famous  To the insane the sane seem crazy.

Heather

[powderman]

There is a big attemp at mind control in America. The news media, and unfortunately our liberal school system. Some schools push homosexuality as normal, it isn't, it's an abomination in Gods eyes, as it should be to everyone. God has been on the back burner in the whole world for many years now. Infidelity and shacking up are considered normal and acceptable by many today. The world looked at bill clintons immorality, infidelity, and his record of adultery with a kinda grin, like WAAAAAYYYYYY TO GO BILL. He was the president of the United States of America and we deserved better. Kids looked at him and figured, hey, why not, if the prresident says oral sex doesn't count, must be ok. A parent told me his 2 daughters confided in him about doing this cause the president said it was ok. Yep, mind control we have. We've been sliding downhill since we allowed libby judges to kick God out of America in 1963. We're all to blame. We have allowed it to happen, the democrat party has turned evil in the last 40 years, they left me a long time ago. The worst part is that they are raising their children to believe that killing babies is acceptable, and homosexuality is normal, that all guns are bad, etc. Yes, we have mind control, and it makes me sick.  POWDERMAN.  

[ironglow]

   Yep! No doubt..he's using mass hynosis.."you are getting verrry sleeeepy" Why, when I am somewhere where the TV is on with him speaking, I do start getting sleepy. I doubt it is hypnotism though..more likely it is just getting sleepy over the boredom of having to listen to one tale of BS after another..