Might want to check out a local gun show, if you have one close by. Lots of used equipment popping up here and there. Some shooters are upgrading to progressive press's, and selling their old single stage's, or some just thought they would get into reloading, and after a couple years, never even set the press up. I've bumped into ''brand new'' stuff, that was 5 years old, and never used. gypsyman