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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2008, 01:55:32 PM »
bassman, their so afraid of Obama, they would vote for a monkey with a third grade education, that had just wrote a government hot check for Disney Land.
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2008, 01:58:31 PM »
Actually the Democrats stand for gun grabbin, baby killin, and boy lovin.

That's why I'd never support one by voting for them or not voting against them.

Then what do the Republicans stand for, Swampman?  They haven't done jack to stop abortion.  The only thing that can be said for them nationally on gun control is that they've successfully done NOTHING.  And on boy lovin, well that seems to be the pass time of several Republicans, like Senator Larry Craig.

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2008, 02:00:59 PM »
Actually the Democrats stand for gun grabbin, baby killin, and boy lovin.

That's why I'd never support one by voting for them or not voting against them.

Then what do the Republicans stand for, Swampman?  They haven't done jack to stop abortion.  The only thing that can be said for them nationally on gun control is that they've successfully done NOTHING.  And on boy lovin, well that seems to be the pass time of several Republicans, like Senator Larry Craig.

I'll take "done nothin" over a declared policy.
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2008, 02:37:36 PM »
i  would  vote  for  a  queer  baby killin  monkey  before    i  would  vote for  OBAMA

if  i  new  he  was  the  ONLY  one  that  could  beat  him

because  as  long  as  we  are  armed  we  can  remain  free


so  DEE  you  are  right.......i  looked  up  your  constition  party  guy..good  man
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2008, 03:51:41 PM »
  I have to say I'm not silly enough to fall for that third party garbage, yet. Now you third partiers get ya a lil money together and start runnin a capaign instead of runnig your mouths. Get a good one out there get him some adds on TV and get him some support and more people will jump on the band wagon. Heck DEE here was shouthing about this one candidate being so great from the constitution party and she didn't even know the candidates name. I mean if this is the way your third partiers are gonna run a campaign no wonder people laugh at you. I'd have no trouble voting for a good third party candidate if the porrs feller could get some campaigning done. Was any of those fellers on the debate? Heck ol ROss wa on some debates and so was that silly little feller that Got george Bush elected twice. Why aint niether of these candidate getting on there? Obviously you So morrally supurior, non coruptable, super conservative, fellers aint politicing enough and supporting your guy enough. Put your money where your mouth is!

  Runing a sucessful campaign today takes one thing, MONEY, whether you like it or not thats the fact Jack! Obama has the most in his campaign and Mc Cain has the second most, kinda shows in the polling results don't it?
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2008, 04:14:36 PM »
BILLY. Good post, and true. Osama has the backing of the oil rich muslims, a lot of his money comes from them. Hamas, hezbollah, and the other Godless ones support him, seems like Dee does too. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2008, 06:31:14 AM »
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

This was written by a pastor in Germany during WW2 in a prison camp.  If you continue to buy into 2 party voting, this is ultimately what you will be looking at. 

oh and billy, running a successful campaign nowaday's takes 2 things... Money, and a Bias news media outlet to back you.
I'm voting 3rd party in this election by writing in Jesus Christ for president.  Sadly even if this were an option most of you would still vote Republican because "It's a two party system."

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2008, 06:39:54 AM »
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."

This was written by a pastor in Germany during WW2 in a prison camp.  If you continue to buy into 2 party voting, this is ultimately what you will be looking at. 

oh and billy, running a successful campaign nowaday's takes 2 things... Money, and a Bias news media outlet to back you.

No doubt!  Notice all of the media attention Ron Paul is getting now that he is no longer a threat.  It is funny how all that "nonsense" he was talking about during the debates is happening now.

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2008, 10:44:55 AM »
"oh and billy, running a successful campaign nowaday's takes 2 things... Money, and a Bias news media outlet to back you."

Nope you need money to buy that bias. Back to one thing.

"No doubt!  Notice all of the media attention Ron Paul is getting now that he is no longer a threat.  It is funny how all that "nonsense" he was talking about during the debates is happening now.

Heather"


HMM I musta been  missing that on the stations I watch?
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2008, 11:04:29 AM »
The only way a 3rd party is going to compete on the national level is to begin to elect 3rd party people into local and state offices, where you can begin to build a grass roots base.  Elections on a national level are based on TV ads, one liners, and 1 minute commercials.  Looking good on TV.  It is not about substance anymore or issues.  So in order to get power it has to come from the ground up.  If everyone would get behind a 3rd party, Constitution or Libertarian, and work for small wins like school boards, city councils, mayors, state congressmen and senators, then work up to state offices, then governors, and finally represenatives and senators.  Once this is done, and the elected ones do a good job, then work to the national elections.  It only takes 3% working hard to change 50% of the peoples thinking.  It will start by going door to door, talking, giving out literature, making phone calls, etc.  Until then, on the national level, we have to keep voting for the lessor of two evils. 

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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2008, 11:07:08 AM »
This is what "community organizing" is.  Start in your churches, schools and neighborhoods.  It can make a difference.  Obama proved that.  We need a conservative counter to Acorn. 

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2008, 11:17:52 AM »
HEATHER. Ron Paul got no coverage in Ky, still isn't. Like Billy says, it takes money. POWDERMAN.  ??? ???
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2008, 02:30:22 PM »

I'm perfectly happy with the Republican party as it stands.  I haven't been brainwashed by the liberal media into thinking what you say is true.
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If you are perfectly happy with the RP as it is, then you can't be brainwashed ;D
I've been a reg. Republican for over 30 yrs, and what I see today in the GOP is nowhere close to what it use to stand for. The Constitution, or Libertarian party is close to what the old GOP once was.

Liberalism has won out in the Republican party and some like you haven't realized it yet.

Every movement has to have a beginning, and I think NOW is that time. If your happy with what we have after 8 yrs of GOP leadership, then make your mark and feel good about it.
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2008, 03:32:55 PM »
If your happy with what we have after 8 yrs of GOP leadership, then make your mark and feel good about it.
That's really what it comes down to.  If you think that the last 8 years have seen good leadership, then vote Republican, because more of the same is what you can expect.

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2008, 04:07:05 PM »
i  would  rather  have  bush  4  more  years  than  MCCAIN

but  the  choices  are  MCCAIN OR  OSAMA

AND  THAT  CHOISE  IS  OBVIOUS
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2008, 04:39:58 PM »
KEV;
  If you don't like America and it's freedoms..vote Muslim..maybe you will enjoy sharia better ..
  BTW: If you vote 3rd party you're still voting for sharia... :D
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« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2008, 04:51:45 PM »
KEV;
  If you don't like America and it's freedoms..vote Muslim..maybe you will enjoy sharia better ..

Go to hell ironglow.  Don't tell me how to vote.  I refuse to be bullied into voting for a candidate by Republicrat scare-tactics.  Your mantra is as old and tired as your presidential candidate, who has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

McCain has nothing to offer me.  4 more years of the PATRIOT Act, McCain-Feingold attacks on the 1st Amendment, insane foreign policy, pandering to wall street, allowing illegals to run rampant (McCain-Kennedy), and the prospect of even MORE debt than the 10 trillion we've already got is not anything I will support.

I will vote third party.  If the Republicans want my vote, they ought to stand up for the principals that they USED to stand for.  Since you've obviously forgotten what those principals are, I'll list them; Financial responsibility, strong national defense, AMERICA FIRST (ie; control the immigration process, keep jobs in America)  and standing up for salt-of-the-earth type folks, not CEOs.

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2008, 04:59:13 PM »
I once respected powell enough to vote for him if he was running. but his values have changed. He would have one of his men in the stockade for failing to salute the flag now he endorses this jerk that has no respect for his flag or his country and has filed a delay of discovery in a trial asking him to prove natural born citizenship as the Constitution requires to be qualified for the office whats he going to do get elected then say he is not qualified and start country wide riots.
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« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2008, 05:08:43 PM »
BTW  any news  on  that    dead  line  was   a week ago
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
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« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2008, 05:29:33 PM »
It has been said: All lies are true, and all trues are lies. Think about it.

Most all that is said in an election is falsehood. The electorate is brainwashed with B.S, lies and big money. To vote for for anyone other than McCain is counter productive and plays into Obamas hands. He McCain may not be the best choice but he is an American and a Christian.
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« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2008, 06:31:39 PM »
 Dale;
  yes he cannot vote here, but what we do is very important to Canada. If we lapse into socialism here, it surely will affect Canada.
  So, let's not be rude to our neighbors.
   I just wish some of our outspoken politicians were as concerned with people that are not US citizens voting in our elections as you are, Dale. Politicians will take every vote they can get, even providing funds for such crooked outfits as ACORN..so they can make up a bunch of names and perhaps regioster a few dogs, cats & rabbits along the way..
    Go ahead Fred..far as I'm concerned..you're a great deal more honest than some of our "sleeper" politicians...
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« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2008, 07:43:17 PM »
“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”- John Quincy Adams
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2008, 07:46:14 PM »
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3rd Parties: What They’re For and What They Do
by Rick Gaber
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Third parties shouldn’t really need an introduction. In my opinion they should be widely welcomed as an exciting and necessary part of political activity and policy advocacy. The fact that they’re not has inspired me to go ahead and set down some of the purposes and reasons-for-being of third parties and the benefits and services they provide. In the United States the founding fathers had no intention of prescribing political parties at all, let alone limiting the number of them. In fact, they’re not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. And that's why no fewer than 5 different candidates won electoral votes in each of the first four presidential elections. The dominance of two parties today is mostly the result of the states' using questionable winner-take-all electoral systems with built-in conflicts of interest, which even include allowing the winners to rewrite the election laws and redraw the legislative districts(!). This in turn elevates those people who are willing to compromise principles (if they even have any) to major player status, as it entices them to dilute their messages (if any) and join "major" political parties along with many other politicians with whom they would normally disagree. Besides, it (obviously) disadvantages, if not discourages, any principled competitors from the start.




The primary purpose of third-party candidates running for public office is to call attention to otherwise ignored, misrepresented, or even suppressed principles or issues. Eugene Debs did so for the plight of the factory worker and Ross Perot for the national debt crisis.** There are usually MORE than two sides to every issue – WAY more. And yet despite their hype and hysteria, when the smoke clears, the "major" parties often turn out to be on the same unprincipled side anyway.
 
The secondary purpose is to get the major parties to adopt the most important portions of the 3rd party platform as part of theirs (The Socialist Debs ran 4 times but quit after not only achieving this, his goal, but after seeing the progressive income tax and the Federal Reserve System, his two most history-changing platform planks, actually become law.).
 
Third parties give the far-sighted voter a way to make a visible statement and have a greater impact on the direction the country moves far into the future. In 1908 a vote for Debs had at least 33 times the long-term impact on the nation as a vote for any major party candidate (including the Republican Taft, who "won"), by my calculations.
 
They give the principled and knowledgeable voter a chance to cast his vote without feeling dirty afterwards, even feeling good, especially since every vote really counts to help a 3rd party get or keep ballot access (it's enormously important for helping a 3rd party get on the ballot in the future).
 
They work to enhance the prospects and credibility of lesser-known ideas and lesser-known candidates, especially the 3rd party's state and local candidates, to gain and solidify ballot access, to expand the party’s influence, to develop an ever-larger national presence, and maybe even to replace or supplant one of the so-called "major" parties.
 
They serve as what Richard Winger calls an " 'emotional bridge' for voters who have given up on supporting one major party but are not yet ready to vote for the other," and in so doing they don't just lure voters to the polls; in the long run they even help prevent "stagnation and tyranny," (see http://www.ballot-access.org/winger/iba.html)
 
Third parties give sources of leverage and ideas to major-party loyalists to "keep the pressure on" their party to adopt or emphasize positions or principles it tends to ignore, abandon or advocate much too feebly.
 
They provide a vehicle for like-minded people to meet, share ideas, brainstorm, strategize, develop new approaches to public policy, and spin off subgroups to raise public awareness of, and campaign about, specific issues even on a local basis.
 
Their presence and activity give whoever does win office more latitude and public support in choosing new or different public policy approaches or solutions to existing or anticipated problems, challenges, concerns or crises. THIRD PARTIES ARE WILLING TO TACKLE THIRD RAILS.  SOMEbody’s got to be available to do it!
 
They often work to encourage changes in election laws where the 3rd party, its supporters and other voters would like to see fair and equal ballot access for all parties, or runoff elections whenever no one gets a clear majority, or cross-endorsement of candidates, or preferential voting, or proportional representation, or ease of casting write-in votes, or choice of "NOTA" (none of the above). After all, stupid, unfair, even outrageous state and local election and ballot access laws and enforcement methods have gone unchallenged long enough in hundreds of jurisdictions.
 
They actually IMPROVE the health of the "two-party system." According to Richard Winger in The Importance of Ballot Access, "Using the criteria of high voter turnout, the absence of gridlock, and exchange of power between the two major parties, we can see that our two-party system was healthy in the 1870s, 1880s, and 1890s ... [when] our political system contained many vigorous and powerful third parties."
 
(...and that this is NOT necessarily the only or primary purpose of a 3rd Party is a point often lost on many politicians, journalists and academics, let alone on the general public): They strive to win (which IS possible IF real equality in media coverage, as 3rd party candidate Abraham Lincoln enjoyed, is reestablished).
 
They give the otherwise ignored, used, abused, betrayed, disgusted, disappointed, frustrated, victimized, insulted, and/or outraged voter a chance to cast a vote without feeling dirty afterwards, a reason to go to the polls AT ALL in the first place, and maybe even to come out of the voting booth feeling GREAT!
 





"The old parties are husks, with no real soul within either, divided on artificial lines, boss-ridden and privilege-controlled, each a jumble of incongruous elements, and neither daring to speak out wisely and fearlessly on what should be said on the vital issues of the day." -- Theodore Roosevelt
"Third parties are very effective vehicles for forcing issues that neither party wants to address because of their controversy. They are very influential as incubators of ideas.'' -- Prof. Jeffrey Sedgwick, University of Massachusetts-Amherst in The Boston Herald, Sept. 17, 2000

** "It was third parties who FIRST introduced ideas like restricting slavery, granting suffrage to women, establishing minimum wages and controlling child labor... The difficulty of getting on the ballot state-by-state is surely a barrier deliberately erected by the major parties to keep third parties out of the field of play." ~ American University Professor Allan Lichtman on The Jim Lehrer Newshour, Oct. 22, 1996

"The irony is that no leading political scientist who studies political party systems believes that it is necessary to squelch minor parties in order to 'defend' the two-party system. The true definition of 'two-party system' is a system in which two particular parties are much bigger than all the others; it doesn't mean a system in which minor parties have atrophied into non-existence. The last leading political scientist who believed that it is socially useful to squelch minor parties was Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia, but he changed his mind over five years ago, and now advocates that election laws treat minor parties equitably." -- Richard Winger, Ballot Access News December 12, 1996

"...when the variety and number of political parties increases, the chance for oppression, factionalism, and nonskeptical acceptance of ideas decreases." -- James Madison

"A sect or party is an elegant incognito devised to save a man from the vexation of thinking." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to Heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Francis Hopkinson, Paris, Mar. 13, 1789 

"If parties in a republic are necessary to secure a degree of vigilance sufficient to keep the public functionaries within the bounds of law and duty, at that point their usefulness ends. Beyond that they become destructive of public virtue, the parent of a spirit antagonist to that of liberty, and eventually its inevitable conqueror." -- William Henry Harrison, Inaugural, March 4, 1841

"Look at the tyranny of party--at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty--a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes--and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits..." -- The Character of Man, Mark Twain's Autobiography"

"Joining a political party is like joining a gang." -- Chris Rock

"If mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind." -- John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

"Not voting is just as bad as voting for evil men because it allows evil to succeed by default.  Take a stand with people who support what you really support.  Stop cowering and merely complaining about America's pending demise and act in such a way as to truly make a difference." -- Tom Ambrose



"In your entire lifetime, you will probably never vote in an election where your one vote decides the outcome. So why bother to vote at all? The correct answer to that question, the purpose you should have in mind when you enter the voting booth, is: 'my vote can make a difference because it tells incumbent politicians what I believe is right'. My vote simply says, 'this is the direction I want the country, state or community to take.' That's it." -- Richard Boddie

"If your one vote is like one drop of fertilizer in an eye dropper, and you had to choose between giving it to a small but vigorous tree seedling and an ancient, rotting (but huge!) old oak tree, WHICH ONE IS YOUR DROP GOING TO HAVE THE GREATER IMPACT ON? And how much greater would the relative impact be? Especially when you consider all the restrictive, unequal ballot-access laws which CAN make any one vote crucial to future ballot access for a third party. Don't you think those people who can and do THINK LONG-TERM should be the ones most encouraged to (and able to) vote?" -- from http://FreedomKeys.com/myvccount.htm
 

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2008, 08:49:57 PM »
Common sense dictates the electorate will either endow the new President with a large or small majority of the populace within the 2 party system.  NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE IS POSSIBLY ELECTABLE CURRENTLY.  The citations quoted are somewhat open to interpretation by the readers, regardless of the day in age.  It is apparent to any logical, thinking, person that Obama's policies are inherently and historically erroneous.  So, a vote for a third party from the people wanting basic constructionists principles as outlined, not only will divide the people who desire a government leader more in line with these goals, but nulify a vote for an electable candidate is foolish to the extreme.  Cut a nose to smite thy face.  The end and final result is you are ugly.
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2008, 11:59:18 AM »
Deltecs. They know that, but don't care. The 3rd party guys are determined to see osama elected. POWDERMAN.  :( :( :( :( :(
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2008, 12:08:48 PM »
Singleshot: Re your post # 40.

They did as you said with cause, they just didn't get enough of them.
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2008, 02:20:35 PM »
Deltecs. They know that, but don't care. The 3rd party guys are determined to see osama elected. POWDERMAN.  :( :( :( :( :(

Spoken like a true Republicrat storm trooper.  I'm sure Sean Hannity would be proud.  Maybe you can call him and tell him what a "great American" he is, and he will pat you on the head for being such a good little cog in the machine.  If I wanted Obama, I would vote Obama.

You know, I hope you Republicrats realize that your inane ramblings about "a third party vote is a vote for Obama" has absolutely no chance of turning the votes of a single third party voter. 

If we were fools for alarmist propaganda and the ramblings of imbeciles, we would already be voting Republican.

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2008, 02:51:34 PM »
kev. I'm sure you're right. This further convinces me that you and others here really want osama to win but are ashamed to admit it, as you should be.  After you see what this pos does for our 2 nd amendment rights you can pat yourself on the back and proudly say--- I could have helped stop him, but didn't cause I gots my principals and convictions. Instead of helping stop osama I voted for somebody I knew couldn't win, Yep, you'll do America proud. Shame on ya. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2008, 03:07:40 PM »
kev. I'm sure you're right. This further convinces me that you and others here really want osama to win but are ashamed to admit it, as you should be.  After you see what this pos does for our 2 nd amendment rights you can pat yourself on the back and proudly say--- I could have helped stop him, but didn't cause I gots my principals and convictions. Instead of helping stop osama I voted for somebody I knew couldn't win, Yep, you'll do America proud. Shame on ya. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Like I said, spoken like a true RINO storm trooper.  In the past you've shown that you make your decisions only with the basest and most primitive parts of your mind.  You hate Obama because to you he is a nigger and a godless muzzlim.  Same = good, different = bad.  It is your right to think that way. 

I really don't see how Obama could do much worse than Bush or McCain.  The Democrats lost big by attacking the 2nd Amendment last time.  No doubt the Republican Revolution is fresh in the minds of their top strategists.  No, I think that Obama will continue the work of Bush; erode our freedoms in the name of security and expand socialism, all while continuing to antagonize Russia and Iran.  No matter who wins in November, we're heading down the road to authoritarian corporate socialism. 

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Re: Your 3rd party vote....
« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2008, 03:09:25 PM »
  Well, to all you third partiers, what are you doing to further your candidate of choice? Are you sending money? Are you talking to people about your candidates plans? Or are you whining, crying and Republican bashing? For some fellers that claim to be voting the "moral" high ground you all seem to be running a negative, attack campaign. Tsk Tsk.

  Hey I just thought of this I've seen Mc Cane's name mentioned here, and I have seen Obama's name mentioned here. But who is this mysterious third party candidate? Is it a secret? Kinda hard to vote for someone who you don't have the name of. Well third partiers, who is your man? Or am I right you are just Obama supporters that are using this third party babble as a way to bash the Republicans?

  Well we await you fellers enlightened information. Ya know we're just dumb sheeple and we need you morally superior fellers to lead us. :D :D
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