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Islam?
« on: October 21, 2008, 11:06:49 AM »
Would someone explain what good islam is? What does it do but breed violence. What good is a muslim? Seems like there whole mission in life is to destoy and kill anything or anyone that is not. Someone please enlighten me





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Re: Islam?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 11:29:37 AM »
I would say on the whole, the entire population of Muslims are like the majority of Christians... they just want to be left alone to work and raise families... for that matter what good is a Christian?  Seems that in history, Christians have done their fair share of killing in the name of God.  If the media only showed the radical side of Christianity, then I'm sure we'd look like a bunch of idiots as well...

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 11:30:21 AM »
To be honest, you got it.  It is a totally male dominated society, and they look at any other society as a threat to their existence.

The ones that just want to be left alone and co-exist are also a threat.  In the QURAN they are to be killed as well.  The QURAN says it is the duty of all good men to convert all non believers to Islam.  If they refuse to convert, they are to be put to death.  The Quran excludes Women, Children, and Old Men.  Women and female children may be taken as concubines.  Male children upon adult hood must convert or be put to death.

The QURAN is hard to read and understand, because it jumps around so much.  It is not in chronological order.

Try this it is some interesting reading.  http://www.venusproject.com/prophet_of_doom/toc.html
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 11:48:04 AM »
Cuts down on paperwork that way.  ;D
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 11:51:38 AM »
Here is another site some might find interesting as well.    http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 12:42:14 PM »
GOOD MUSLIMS? Aren't any. They all study from the same satans handbook, the koran. Sourdough told it straight. The goal of islam in the begining, was, and is, the total domination of the entire world. Their hero is mohamed. He was a child molester, rapist, murderer, warlord, but certainly no prophet of God. The Godless ones murdered another Christian missionary today. She was helping the injured and disabled in kabul. Her crime??? She was a Christian in a Godless country. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 12:54:05 PM »
Muslims are doing what we (Christians) did during the crusades.  We had a dark period in our history so I guess the Muslims are a few centuries behind. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 02:29:44 PM »
Islam is a fast growing cancer, and should be dealt with accordingly. What kind of a man would strap explosives on his child, point them at a bus load of school kids and tell them that allah will reward them for murdering those kids??? A muslim. Many are as mad dogs, their mosques are their lairs, where hatred and death are preached, taught, and learned. They are taught to hate Jews and other non muslims from birth. By the time the kids reach early teens, even before, they are so far indoctrinated in hatred and death that they will never be able to be a contributing member in any kind of civilized society. Every convert to islam is a soul lost to satan himself.
tm. I didn't read all of your diatribe but I'm sure it condenses something like this. Jews, Israel, Christians BAD. Muslims good, that about it??? POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Islam?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 03:16:35 PM »
Would someone explain what good islam is? What does it do but breed violence. What good is a muslim? Seems like there whole mission in life is to destoy and kill anything or anyone that is not. Someone please enlighten me





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Well it was started by a fellow who murdered, robbed and molested children, then claimed to be a prophet of god so we can't expect any good from them.

 We have a few apologists here for the Cancer we call Islam, heck the one feller here spouts Nazi catch words about Jews as he bashes Isreal and defends the acts of terror committed by the Muslims.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2008, 04:41:14 PM »
does  any  one  here  think  we  should  fund  abortions  for  all  Muslims???
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2008, 04:47:33 PM »
does  any  one  here  think  we  should  fund  abortions  for  all  Muslims???
If we could keep the price down to about $20.00 a piece I am in for 5. Dale
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2008, 05:27:11 PM »
DALE    is  only 25% baby  killer
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2008, 06:50:55 PM »
does  any  one  here  think  we  should  fund  abortions  for  all  Muslims???
If we could keep the price down to about $20.00 a piece I am in for 5. Dale

Whoa that is a lot of hate there Dale.  You would fund the murder of innocent life just because you did not like his or her parents religion?

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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2008, 11:26:42 PM »
NOPE. Wouldn't fund abortions, just spey and neuter them. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2008, 02:27:20 AM »
Who says Dale is talking about babies?
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2008, 03:10:36 AM »
Funny thing is that the very first crusades were against the Jews. Later when crusading caught on and around 1099 Jews and Moslems where allied against the Euro Christians who slaughtered jew and Moslem alike.  With diminishing ranks among world jewry they began prostelizing about 200 years ago to gain numbers, which is currently reaching a crescendo with the re-signing on of Christians into the new Judaeo-Christian sects that we see today. Ecclesiatical matters can change fast as determined by whoever pushes spiritual beliefs on the masses. Who knows in another 30 years the Christians could separate from Judiasm and make peace with the muzzies again which would be a simple matter..
  Perhaps the one worlders and globalists are right....religion is the bane of peace and we need one world religion... ::)


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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2008, 03:11:38 AM »
Who says Dale is talking about babies?

In my world abortion=killing babies!  Just b/c their parents are of Islamic faith, they are still babies!

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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2008, 03:29:09 AM »
Who says Dale is talking about babies?

In my world abortion=killing babies!  Just b/c their parents are of Islamic faith, they are still babies!

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Yea but as PM would put it those babies will grow up to be Godless subhuman scum. Dale
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2008, 03:38:16 AM »
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Every convert to islam is a soul lost to satan himself.


As is every convert to the Jewish faith, the Buddist faith, the Hindu faith...ect... Anyone who doesn't accept Jesus Christ as their personal lord and savior is going to hell.

What kills me about you guys is that you base your ideals on Muslims from what you get off of TV.  The same way they think that every American is a gluttonous, Brittany Spears wannabe, adulterous, capitalist, porn addict.  That's what they see about us on TV.  Most of us aren't gluttons, dispise Brittany Spears, haven't cheated on our spouses, and aren't addicted to porn.  I'm sure the majority of camel herder's over there just want to go to work, come home to their family, pray, and do it over again.  Really, other than their religeous beliefs, they aren't so differenet than you or I...

And as far as paid abortions and sterilizing Muslims... I can think of a fair amount of Americans who could use the same treatment...

Billy... do you actually have an opinion on this matter?  Or does powderman just have an echo?












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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2008, 09:09:18 AM »
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I'm sure the majority of camel herder's over there just want to go to work, come home to their family, pray, and do it over again.


Hmmmm, that's odd.  When I saw those crowds over there cheering after 9-11, it seemed like the majority enjoyed watching 3,000 Americans die.   >:(
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2008, 09:26:23 AM »
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I'm sure the majority of camel herder's over there just want to go to work, come home to their family, pray, and do it over again.


Hmmmm, that's odd.  When I saw those crowds over there cheering after 9-11, it seemed like the majority enjoyed watching 3,000 Americans die.   >:(

What you need to keep in mind is their media makes us look evil to them, just like our media makes them look evil to you.  Would you cheer if 3,000 evil people were killed?  I wish people could step back and see the big picture.

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2008, 01:28:20 PM »
SSSAM. Jews, hindus, and budhists aren't going around murdering innocents and blowing up bus loads of school kids, muslims do that. I believe the Jews have their own covenent with God. POWDERMAN.  :) :)
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2008, 01:47:33 PM »
 Yep Sam I do have an opinion on Islam. I myself have been to both Iraq and Saudi Arabia. I spent a good deal of time at Hafir Al Batan Saudi Arabia in 1991. While there serving my country I saw first hand what muslims were and what Islam is to form my opinion. The things I was witness to there would make a persons skin crawl. Especially yours Heather. In my time their I saw what kind of an insidious beast Islam was. It is all controlling and all consuming.

  Now TM7 you forgot something in your little chat about the crusaders, they not only killed Jews and Muslims when they conquered Jerusalem but also Christains and you are wrong the Muslims were the main enemy in the first crusade. What few of you realise is what happens in combat, the rush, the adrenalin is addictive and it is hard to stop once you begin until you are exhausted.
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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2008, 01:59:06 PM »
What good is any religion?  It's all about controlling people.  Always has been.

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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2008, 02:08:38 PM »
What good is any religion?  It's all about controlling people.  Always has been.

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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2008, 02:23:09 PM »
Not sure what you call religion. Christianity is a religion, islam is a death cult. Christianity is all about saving souls and belief in Jesus Christ. Islam is all about hatred and death and taking souls away from God, for satan himself. If you believe that belief in God and eternal salvation is being controlled, so be it, I certainly hope so. I believe there is a Heaven, and certainly is a hell. My control and direction is God. Where will you spend eternity????? Smoking, or non smoking???  ;) ;). POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2008, 05:44:29 PM »
What good is any religion?  It's all about controlling people.  Always has been.

Jesus essentially said the same thing, right?  Religion, in most variations, is man searching for Godlikeness.  I deal directly with Him myself.  Of course I attend church to worship, but my identity as a Christian comes as a disciple and follower of Christ, not a church or a religion.

Not wanting to argue or offend anyone, but we can only turn to God.

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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2008, 06:47:28 PM »
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What you need to keep in mind is their media makes us look evil to them, just like our media makes them look evil to you.  Would you cheer if 3,000 evil people were killed?  I wish people could step back and see the big picture.

Big picture my *ss.  What did you see when the big tsunami hit?  I saw Americans sending aid, money, etc. to that area of the world, an area of the world that is predominatley muslim.  I sure as hell didn't see thousands of Americans in the street cheering the deaths of muslims.   ::)
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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2008, 02:34:47 AM »
Sam:  No I don't get my ideas on Muslims from TV, or the Internet.  I've been there, I've dealt with them on a daily basis.  They have tried to convert me.  I've had many long talks with Muslims on religion.  What I talk about is from first hand experience.

Lost many Kurdish friends, seen men, women, and children (Yes babies) slaughtered.  Seen the aftermath of their handiwork, where a bunch of good U.S. Marines died.  I've sent my share of them to meet Allah.  Cost me dearly, but I'm still breathing, more than can be said for them.

As others have said, and I personally believe.  Religion was developed by man, to control man.  All societies are based on one type of religion or another.  It is needed so man can police himself, and conform to the mores of that society.  Religion is both good and bad. 

Islam is a very male dominated society.  While there is very strict rules, there is also exceptions.  These exceptions only apply to men.  Rape is one of the areas where there is exceptions for men.  Man should not rape women, but if he does the woman must have done something to cause him to rape her, therefore it is her fault and she must be beheaded.  Men can not have sex with pre puberty girls, but if he does, he must take her as a concubine.  He may never marry her, but must keep her.  (Unless he can trade his her off to another man).  To every rule there is an exception for men that break that rule.  There are no exceptions for women.  Also a woman is worth 1/10th of a man.  That is the value placed on a woman by the Quran, it's there, I read it, but don't ask me where in the Quran.  That is one of the hardest books I have ever tried to read.  It jumps around and is not in any type of order.
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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2008, 03:02:51 AM »
tmj   i  wish  them  yankees  had not  come  here
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
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AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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