What happened 1000 yrs ago has nothing to do with u and me TODAY.Like i said in a sarcastic way. It,s our fault. If you really feel this way you have no buisness in america. Move to the middleast and embrace the slighted you feel so enamered with
Troy
Can a post be more wrong than this?
What happened 1000 years ago shaped our world every bit as much as what happened 100 years ago, 10 years ago, and yesterday. The past has shaped our interactions with the mid-east and Muslims from day one.
The beginning of heavy involvement in the mid-east (and Iran in particular) was during WWII, when we used Iran as a supply line to the USSR, after the British and Soviets invaded the country. We also strong-armed them out of a lot of oil. We did it to defeat Hitler, which was a noble cause, but that didn't make any bacon with Arabs that never laid eyes on a German.
After WWII, the whole Israel thing drove a pretty deep wedge between Muslims and the West. I don't see any need to rehash it here.
In 1953, the CIA and the British SIS brought down the duly elected government of Iran, and put the Shah of Iran back on the throne as absolute despot. The Shah, of course, was a brutal leader who's people lived in squalor while he enjoyed opulent palaces. He was funded by the US. We did this to keep the Soviets out of the mid-east. It was a worthy goal, and it worked, but it didn't make us any friends in Iran.
There was also that whole thing with Saddam Hussein. You remember him, right? We used him to fight communism (and later, Muslim extremism) in the mid-east. He was a good lapdog for a long time and did a lot to help the US, but he was also a murdering psychopath.
Let's also remember that we trained an entire generation of Muslims to be insurgents, so that we could defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan. That operation was a resounding success. It also taught a bunch of guys like Osama bin Laden that they could fight a superpower and win.
I could go on for another hour, pointing out instances where we (the US) and other western nations, though we meant well, used force directly or indirectly (by proxy) to advance our cause at the expense of other people. That might not mean much to a lot of the folks here on Graybeard Outdoors, but to the people who had their leaders picked for them by the CIA, it means everything.
Our own actions, while well-intentioned, caused a backlash among Muslims. 9-11 was only the most horrific embodiment of that backlash. It was a heinous act, but it was not brought about, as some here believe, purely by blind Muslim hatred of American democracy and way of life.
to bad we cant just go to the woods an settle it.. shut the professional sewers of confusion up ..
for a little while anyway..
Infantile threats of violence from a neocon Bushbot? Wish I could say I was surprised. Anyway, you sure got me scared.