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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2008, 05:20:04 PM »
I have the SBH with 7.5" barrel.  44 Mag. and I did the research for some time before I bought.   I have found the 44 to have so many options from light plinker loads to really heavy big cast bullets for large game.    That was my deciding factor and I have not been disappointed.   2" groups all day long with any type of rest and two handed hold.   Also, I have found that double action is really not necessary when hunting.  Usually double action shooting is not as accurate as using a single action.   Go with the Ruger SBH and what ever barrel length you like.  Reloading them is an easy thing on the 44 mag. and loads of data is available.

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2008, 07:07:59 PM »
what is a good price for a used SBH or the SRH i found an SBH for $390 with 7.5" bbl is this a fair price for it looked like new. I also found a SRH with minor holster wear but like new otherwise that i need to call about what is fair price for it.
both were 44 mag.


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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2008, 10:58:00 PM »
what is a good price for a used SBH or the SRH i found an SBH for $390 with 7.5" bbl is this a fair price for it looked like new. I also found a SRH with minor holster wear but like new otherwise that i need to call about what is fair price for it.
both were 44 mag.


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Sound like a fair price. New in my area they have been going for the high 500's to low 6's

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2008, 11:31:37 PM »
a good shooter quality gun should bring around 300.
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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2008, 12:46:23 AM »
I will saecond Graybeard on this.  These two calibers are basically 'six of one and a half dozen of the other' and will definately second those responders who have advocated for Ruger Blackhawks in either caliber. 

I prefer my Smith and Wessons and you may be able to find one used on the shelves for the price you state but it would be easier to find a Ruger in those calibers within that price range. 

If you intend to purchase before beginning reloading I would suggest the 44 for the availablility of off-the shelf ammo.

The 45 would be fun with all the cowboy loads out there and you can purchase hot loaded ammo for hunting until you begin reloading your own.

My preference is for the 44.  JMTCW.  Mikey.

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2008, 06:07:57 AM »
thanks all for the help it has been great. I got to hold a few S&W the other day but need to go back and look some more. i saw a SRH for $250 but am not financially ready to buy yet wish i was would probably get it or at least consider it more along with the SBH that was $390 could probably negiotate a better price on both. need to hold some of the S&W's more see if i can find one i like the feel of.


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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2008, 03:14:09 AM »
if you are going for FULL HOUSE loads the 44 offers safety as in the same gun a 44 has thicker chamber walls , yes very small difference but then toilet paper is only .003 thick and it offers a margin of safety we wouldn't do well with out !
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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2008, 06:52:18 AM »
Hi all i am considering a revolver for deer hunting. will hopefully be able to get it before next yr hunting season. what are the advantages and disadvantages of each caliber. I will be hunting deer in IL. how is the recoil on each. in this choice as well either single or double action be better. I don't plan to put scope on it will use open sites and practice alot and don't reload yet but am going to in the future so an with that in mind which would be better for ammo choices and cost of ammo as well. will both calibers do thie job or is one better than the other. cost for the revolver is a consideration as well will likely spend no more than $500.

I got to thinking i wanted a revolver for hunting tonite while i was out wandering around and held several revolver in 357, 44 mag, and 45lc.

thanks in advance for the help, Terry
This was  covered  in http://www.gunblast.com The original  cast performance bullets web site had an article about the 45lc vs 44mag

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2008, 12:32:52 PM »
here in n.e. ohio there are a lot of gun shows, and a lot of gun shops.   i bought a new 4 5/8" blued ruger bh'  in .357 mag' in the spring and it cost me $389 plus tax.   it is hell for stout with heavy loads of powder behind a 180 gr' laser-cast.   however, i don't expect to find too many SBH's or SRH's for the prices quoted above.   especially in stainless is that should be a factor.    it may be that i'm missing something with the tough times upon us and what are now being turned in to some gun shops and some pawn shops.    but i prefer to save and buy ''new''. 

i went into a gun shop years ago and found a beautiful blued ruger super blackhawk with so much end play (it seemed: though i didn't have feeler gauges with me at the time) that it scared me away.

just my opinion,

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2008, 04:57:12 AM »
Southern California has something unique each June when Raahauges Shooting Sports Fair is held in Corona,CA http://www.raahauges.com  For a nominal admission & fees one can try out many of the major brands of new rifles,handguns,shotguns,archery equipment before buying!

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2008, 11:43:09 AM »
I recently purchased a Taurus 44mag Stainless Steel with an 8 3/8" barrel. I love it. It was just under $500. I plan on putting a scope on it later. It came with a ported barrel and the recoil is not much. Might take a look at that.

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2008, 04:56:09 PM »
what is a good price for a used SBH or the SRH i found an SBH for $390 with 7.5" bbl is this a fair price for it looked like new. I also found a SRH with minor holster wear but like new otherwise that i need to call about what is fair price for it.
both were 44 mag.


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Price sounds about fair for Illinois gun dealers. SRHs seem to be scarce in Illinois?
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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2008, 04:58:12 PM »
Terry, don't know where you are in Illinois but, Bloomington ECA gunshow this weekend, if your close and have the time?
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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2008, 05:35:49 PM »
SRH's are pretty scarce unless you buy a new one. Bloomington is about 2 hours away. will wait till i get some money and his either bellville, collinsville, or maybe hit one of the missouri gun shows in St. Charles.


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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2008, 12:58:14 AM »
When I mentioned before that either caliber could be considered six of one and a half dozen of another for Whitetail I apologize for not providing that neither caliber need be loaded to maximum pressures or velocities for hunting Whitetail. 

I use a heavy bullet in my 44 but at moderate velocities.  My shots are limited to 50-60 yds unless I get a perfect 'silhouette' shot at longer, but not much longer, distances. 

In this regard I do not think or believe you need the most massive piece of hand-held artillery you can lug along and even a 4" S&W or a 4&5/8" Ruger SBH should be able to do the job for you. 

None the less, get one of each, box upon box of ammunition for both, send it all out ehre and we will get them back to you, with results, before nancy pelosi can stymie any more gun business.  Just thought I could help................... Mikey.

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2008, 04:40:51 AM »
45 colt all the way......i have  10 contender in 45 colt with the freebore to shoot 410"s.....some people say thay shoot bad......my doesnt.......will i try 100 yd shots with irons...probaly not, but anything within 75 yds is dead......as one poster said and i agree with  i dont like the 44 as it is not a true 44....429..(why is the 41 so close to the 44?...cause the 44 is only 429.... .19 biggrer.....45 colt dsiameter is .23 bigger than the 44)the 45 colt is a true 45...........ruger contendr, it will kill anything that a 44 can.....mack

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2008, 02:55:35 PM »
You have been given a lot of good advice, so I wont go into a lot of detail other then to say  when loaded equally, the 44 mag and 45 LC are close enough no game animal will know the difference.

One thing to keep in mind though, if you do buy / reload hot 45 LC loads for hunting, you have to be sure these loads are only used in a strong weapon - a Ruger most likely.  If you end up owning multiple 45 SA's, be aware that those based on the Colt SA will not safely handle these hot ruger loads.  I no longer load hot 45 LC - That's what my 44 mags are for.  To much chance of one of those mini hand grenades getting in the wrong gun.

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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2008, 03:07:21 PM »
 i do beleive after all the advice that i will get a 44mag because of ammo availability and it will do the job it will probably be my only revolver and have a friend that when i start reloading can help set me up with some cast 240grain bullets.


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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2008, 03:14:13 PM »
illhunter if you are going to pass on the srh for 250.00 please send me the information i'll take it. as for 44 or 45 , i say whatever one instills the most confidence in yourself each time you squeeze the trigger. guaranteed ,
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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2008, 03:22:52 PM »
i missed out on the SRH for $250 would have liked to have got it. I beleive the 45lc will do the job but less ammo availability in my area and don't reload yet but might get a press next month so maybe i will look into the 45lc more. the other thing is i don't see many 45lc revolvers that can handle very stout loads. if i could find a ruger i would get the 45lc but comfortable with either and from what i see and read the 45lc will do it.


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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2008, 07:07:19 AM »
If you don't handload yet go with the 44.  Both can be loaded down or up in the Rugers, I have both in SBH and a Redhawk in 45 colt.  Also have 2 rifles in 45 and another in 454 that shoots the 45's as well.  Then I have SBH with 10 3/8 barrel and 2 44 rifles.  Guy really does need both.  DP
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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2008, 08:42:03 AM »
they are both great guns, I am a 44mag guy, and my Bro Joe is a 45 lc guy...I have a SBH and a SRH in 44 mag, and he has the SBH hunter in 45 lc...which I must say is imho a much better gun than my SRH...

For hunting a sbh in either round, with a 7 1/2 inch barrel would be a really great choice...
Then next you can get a nice lever gun in the same calliber to partner it.
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Re: 44mag vs 45lc
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2008, 01:30:42 PM »
"If you don't handload yet go with the 44.  Both can be loaded down or up in the Rugers, I have both in SBH and a Redhawk in 45 colt.  Also have 2 rifles in 45 and another in 454 that shoots the 45's as well.  Then I have SBH with 10 3/8 barrel and 2 44 rifles.  Guy really does need both.  DP"

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